ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

[Muqtada Al-Amriki]

My friends, sorry to post this in your intro forum, but I cannot start thread in the other forum.

I hope you will listen with open mind and heart and let me speak to this terrible, terrible way that ISIS have corrupt Islam and twist the teachings to fit what they want, not what Mohammed say, pe.ace be upon him.

I am talking about this very, very shocking thing I see in the news today:

Islamic State Issues Fatwa On How To Properly Rape Enslaved Women, Girls


I don't care what faith you are, if you are any kind of decent human being you will be disgust when you read such things:

Among the religious rulings are bans on a father and son having sex with the same female slave; and the owner of a mother and daughter having sex with both. Joint owners of a female captive are similarly enjoined from intercourse because she is viewed as "part of a joint ownership."

Now I know you are churned in your stomach, but it will only get worst. Please bear with me and read more:

"If the owner of a female captive, who has a daughter suitable for intercourse, has sexual relations with the latter, he is not permitted to have intercourse with her mother and she is permanently off limits to him. Should he have intercourse with her mother then he is not permitted to have intercourse with her daughter and she is to be off limits to him."

Now if you are anything like me, and strong in your knowledge of Noble Koran, you are fill with rage right now!

Show me anywhere in Noble Koran where it say father and son can not have sex with same female slave! Go on, I will wait.

You could not find it, right? Now show me in Noble Koran where it say I can not have sex with mother and daughter if I own them both.

That's right: Noble Koran say No. Such. Thing.


If these terrorist who twist sacred text to they own purpose would READ Noble Koran and learn what it say, they would find verse like Koran 8:69 which say: "But now enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good"


Noble Koran say ENJOY your slaves! How can you enjoy your slave if crazy mullah who probably too old to remember sex is to keep making up fatwah that have NO BASIS in holy scripture?



So, I have prove ISIS does not know Noble Koran, and does not preach sound Islamic doctrine.

CASE CLOSE!

[Grandma]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

No, Mooselimbs are a terrible religion dedicated to raping good True Christian™ Anglo-Saxon women! The Mooselimbs even murdered people in Paris (however sinful and perverted that city may be) and San Bernardino (though it's located in Godless blue state Caly-fornia)!

Deuteronomy 17:
2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.




The Mooselimbs even rape innocent camels!


True Christians™ reading this, I apologize for my abundant expression!

[Harsha Shah]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

My friends, sorry to post this in your intro forum, but I cannot start thread in the other forum.

I hope you will listen with open mind and heart and let me speak to this terrible, terrible way that ISIS have corrupt Islam and twist the teachings to fit what they want, not what Mohammed say, pe.ace be upon him.

I am talking about this very, very shocking thing I see in the news today:

Islamic State Issues Fatwa On How To Properly Rape Enslaved Women, Girls

I don't care what faith you are, if you are any kind of decent human being you will be disgust when you read such things:

Now I know you are churned in your stomach, but it will only get worst. Please bear with me and read more:

Now if you are anything like me, and strong in your knowledge of Noble Koran, you are fill with rage right now!

Show me anywhere in Noble Koran where it say father and son can not have sex with same female slave! Go on, I will wait.

You could not find it, right? Now show me in Noble Koran where it say I can not have sex with mother and daughter if I own them both.

That's right: Noble Koran say No. Such. Thing.

If these terrorist who twist sacred text to they own purpose would READ Noble Koran and learn what it say, they would find verse like Koran 8:69 which say: "But now enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good"

Noble Koran say ENJOY your slaves! How can you enjoy your slave if crazy mullah who probably too old to remember sex is to keep making up fatwah that have NO BASIS in holy scripture?

So, I have prove ISIS does not know Noble Koran, and does not preach sound Islamic doctrine.

CASE CLOSE!

Yes, Mr. Al-Amriki. I am Harsha Shah. I an happy to see people of diverse faiths here. I am or I used to be a Jainist but this site has been educating me into an agnostic. I hope I am not offending you but it is very interesting to be discussing religion with someone who is of the islam faith. Yes.

I used to be thinking that all religions are like the blind men and the elephant, the elephant being the reality and the men grasping a small part of the animal and trying to understand the whole based on very little. Now I am thinking that in each religion there could be a collection of blind men grasping the little part of a little part of the great animal with just their fingertips and claiming that they know it all. Yes. I am afraid I must be offending you.

I am seeing that you want to abstain from violence and I can relate to that because the non-violence of ahimsa is very important to me, yes, even without religion. I can also see that you want to distance yourself from many followers of islam by claiming that they have wrong beliefs, yes?

Yes, now I am sure I am offending you. I am thinking that if we accept a religion and are claiming that it is true, we cannot escape responsability. There are many things about Jainism that I revere, the vegetarianism and the ahimsa, but there are also things I am not accepting. There have been fierce ruthless warriors. There is the tradition of harming oneself with unnecessary ascetism and starving to death. There is the fatalism of accepting poverty as the result of karma of past lives. Yes. I am thinking that we cannot escape the responsability. The Bible has many things that promote violence. I am seeing here a group of christians who are not fleeing from the responsability but admit it. I am not agreeing with them about the violence but at least they take responsability. I am seeing the same in the quran. Yes.

Yes. Why are you refusing responsability? I am sorry that I am offending you. I am trying to take responsability - I walk away from the faith and my faith is almost gone. If you are seeing that there are things in the quran that you don't accept, can you not discard the sanctity of that book and look at the elephant. You can admire the book for its literary value and mythos but not claim it for ethics. I am not saying that I can see nice things in islam. The five pillars are respectable, yes? Are you following them? You can follow them without the religion, yes?

I am very sorry if I was offending you. I am very happy that you are here discussing your faith. I am thinking that the way to oppose violence is not to claim that they are not our people. The way could be to let them keep the religion and walk away. Yes. I am suggesting this to you. Yes.

[Faith_Machine]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

I used to be thinking that all religions are like the blind men and the elephant, the elephant being the reality and the men grasping a small part of the animal and trying to understand the whole based on very little.

Harsha, thank you, I believe you just helped me understand a mysterious exercise our own Brother Harold Porter put me through several years ago, when I was both young in my faith, and a young man.

He had me put on a blindfold after drinking quite a lot of Knob Creek whiskey, and told me to sit perfectly still in a chair as he left the room.

After several minutes of silence, with me not being able to see anything, somebody entered the room and placed something in my hand.

I found this all very bewildering. Later, after Harold removed my blindfold, he told me that I had grasped an elephant's trunk!


I had not smelled anything like an elephant, and to be quite honest with you, I don't know how even a baby elephant could have fit in such a small room.

The elephant trunk wasn't much thicker than my forearm, however, so perhaps it was a juvenile pachyderm?

Anyway, Harold told me I should meditate on what I had experienced for a long time, and pray about it, but not talk to other church members about my experience.


He told me that in time, God would reveal its meaning to me.


Perhaps the Lord has used you toward that end?


Isn't God wonderful?

[Alan Swallows Waiting for Email Confirmation]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

If these terrorist who twist sacred text to they own purpose would READ Noble Koran and learn what it say, they would find verse like Koran 8:69 which say: "But now enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good"

I'm not surprised that's in the Koran. After all, Mohammed plagiarized the Bible.

Deuteronomy 20:10 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.
Deuteronomy 20:11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.
Deuteronomy 20:12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:
Deuteronomy 20:13 And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
Deuteronomy 20:14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee.

Numbers 31:15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
Numbers 31:16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord.
Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
Numbers 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

However, Christians have to obey secular law. It's funny how Romans 13:1-7 is one part of the Bible Mohammed never plagiarized.

[Muqtada Al-Amriki]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

Ah yes thank you my friend, I knew Bible has similar verse, but I forget where.

As you can see, Bible and Noble Koran has many, many thing in common. Truly we are like cousins!

[Muqtada Al-Amriki]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

Yes, Mr. Al-Amriki. I am Harsha Shah. I an happy to see people of diverse faiths here. I am or I used to be a Jainist but this site has been educating me into an agnostic. I hope I am not offending you but it is very interesting to be discussing religion with someone who is of the islam faith. Yes.

I used to be thinking that all religions are like the blind men and the elephant, the elephant being the reality and the men grasping a small part of the animal and trying to understand the whole based on very little. Now I am thinking that in each religion there could be a collection of blind men grasping the little part of a little part of the great animal with just their fingertips and claiming that they know it all. Yes. I am afraid I must be offending you.

I am seeing that you want to abstain from violence and I can relate to that because the non-violence of ahimsa is very important to me, yes, even without religion. I can also see that you want to distance yourself from many followers of islam by claiming that they have wrong beliefs, yes?

Yes, now I am sure I am offending you. I am thinking that if we accept a religion and are claiming that it is true, we cannot escape responsability. There are many things about Jainism that I revere, the vegetarianism and the ahimsa, but there are also things I am not accepting. There have been fierce ruthless warriors. There is the tradition of harming oneself with unnecessary ascetism and starving to death. There is the fatalism of accepting poverty as the result of karma of past lives. Yes. I am thinking that we cannot escape the responsability. The Bible has many things that promote violence. I am seeing here a group of christians who are not fleeing from the responsability but admit it. I am not agreeing with them about the violence but at least they take responsability. I am seeing the same in the quran. Yes.

Yes. Why are you refusing responsability? I am sorry that I am offending you. I am trying to take responsability - I walk away from the faith and my faith is almost gone. If you are seeing that there are things in the quran that you don't accept, can you not discard the sanctity of that book and look at the elephant. You can admire the book for its literary value and mythos but not claim it for ethics. I am not saying that I can see nice things in islam. The five pillars are respectable, yes? Are you following them? You can follow them without the religion, yes?

I am very sorry if I was offending you. I am very happy that you are here discussing your faith. I am thinking that the way to oppose violence is not to claim that they are not our people. The way could be to let them keep the religion and walk away. Yes. I am suggesting this to you. Yes.

Hello my dear, you are Indian woman? Or Pakistan? Can you tell me, how light your skin is? I will like to know you better.

[I Man Rastafari]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

Hello my dear, you are Indian woman? Or Pakistan? Can you tell me, how light your skin is? I will like to know you better.

Greetings Muqtada. I can tell that you are having trouble getting to know the white girls in Babylon and I have some advice for you that I learned soon after my arrival. These white people bathe every day by either taking a shower or a bath. Some even do this more than once a day if they have been involved in some athletic pursuit. They are well attuned and sensitive to any odors that they find offensive. I have started to take showers almost every day and I am well pleased with the results. Also you should avoid getting on elevators with the white people because they seem especially sensitive in them.

Jah Guide
Your Friend
Trevor

[Grandma]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

Greetings Muqtada. I can tell that you are having trouble getting to know the white girls in Babylon and I have some advice for you that I learned soon after my arrival. These white people bathe every day by either taking a shower or a bath. Some even do this more than once a day if they have been involved in some athletic pursuit. They are well attuned and sensitive to any odors that they find offensive. I have started to take showers almost every day and I am well pleased with the results. Also you should avoid getting on elevators with the white people because they seem especially sensitive in them.

Jah Guide
Your Friend
Trevor

Good to see you're learning and are not as much as a filthy nigra anymore.

[James Hutchins]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

Jesus is happy to show His magnificent face. Allah is ashamed to do so. You know why? Because Allah is a false prophet and makes a mockery of decent Christians. Some urine drinking desert dweller makes up a 'manifesto' and uses it to con the naive into following 'some made up guy' to the ends of the Earth.

[Muqtada Al-Amriki]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

Ah, that is a very different perspective, Mr. Hutchins. I am try to build common ground here. You can at least admit Bible and Noble Koran have very similar guideline for owning slave, yes?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

I hope you will listen with open mind and heart and let me speak to this terrible, terrible way that ISIS have corrupt Islam and twist the teachings to fit what they want, not what Mohammed say, pe.ace be upon him.

... and you are the guy with the magic decoding ring who knows exactly what Allan said?

I am organizing a collection for you to go and explain this personally to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

Come back and report what he says.

I am try to build common ground here. You can at least admit Bible and Noble Koran have very similar guideline for owning slave, yes?

It seems to me that you are trying to corrupt the Word of God just as Mohammad did.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

... and you are the guy with the magic decoding ring who knows exactly what Allan said?

I am organizing a collection for you to go and explain this personally to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

Come back and report what he says.

....

He's likely to return with a major incapacity for eating Falafel (and more than likely speechless).

Obama has already told them they are a "JV" team - but not to their faces.

“Soon shall we cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”. Quran (3:151)

“Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Quran (2:216)

[Harsha Shah]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

Hello my dear, you are Indian woman? Or Pakistan? Can you tell me, how light your skin is? I will like to know you better.

Yes, Mr. Amriki, it is Harsha Shah here again. I can say that my family is originating from Gujarati but I am very westernised and not able to speak the language. I am living in the UK.

Yes. I hope I am not offending you but it is very interesting to have you here. Are you thinking that your religion is the same as the christianity over here? How do you strive for the eternal life, are deeds determining you faith. I am coming back to my question of أركان الإسلام or are you thinking that you cannot fulfill them without there being a God? Yes. Are you also thinking that you cannot be going to Paradise if you have false beliefs? Has your religion an age of accountability for children! Yes.

Yes, I am sorry if I am continuing to offend you. Yes. Personally, I am feeling more and more that the nirvana is oblivion. I am also seeing that you are perhaps flirting with me but I have decided to remain chaste and I have a good friend, Mr. Machine, here and I am staying loyal to him. Yes.

[Faith_Machine]

Re: ISIS does NOT represent true teachings of Islam!!!

God bless you, Harsha Shah. If you want to escape the Sharia law that is rapidly overtaking your country, you just say the word and I'll wire you money for a plane ticket.