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Default Falun Gong: Evil Cult Invading United States - 03-20-2009, 02:38 AM

Fellow Christians, many of you are already aware that nearly ten years ago, the Chinese banned a dangerous cult: Falun Gong.

It has been gaining adherents right here, in the United States!

A History of Falun Gong

The "ancient" cult of Falun Gong (also called Falun Dafa) is nearly as old as the venerated Wicca, having been started by a Northern Chinese waiter named Li Hongzhi in the early 1990s.

Tagging onto the then-growing popularity of Qigong, a form of moving meditation not unlike Tai Chi, Hongzhi crafted his very own New Age cult. Onto this fertile rootstock, he grafted Buddhist breathing exercises and Taoist philosophy. The result? Falun, or "Wheel of Law", which he called the "path to perfection".

The Chinese people, long separated from their traditional demon-worship by the Communist Party, leapt into this cult with astonishing vigor. In a few short years, Falun Gong followers matched the Communist Party in numbers.

Shortly after Shanghai television announced that Falun Gong had over 70 million Chinese followers, Hongzhi left China for the United States. And just in time!

1999 came, and the Communist Party announced its findings about Falun Gong . . . that the exercises were dangerous, causing insanity, and inducing suicide among the young!

Cultists were outraged, and began holding massive protests. In July of 1999, the Party took the only step it could, banning the cult.

It's just some meditation, what's the big deal?

That's what I thought, friend.

Tell me, if it was "just meditation", why would people be willing to be arrested, and imprisoned, and beaten, and tortured over it? Hmm? Why not just take up yoga instead, or maybe Pilates?

Clearly, there is more to the "path to perfection" than Li Hongzhi is letting on.

Rick Ross, respected expert on cults, provides his assessment:

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Definition of a Cult


Noted psychiatrist and author Robert Jay Lifton developed the following definition of a cult. This definition is focused primarily upon three principal criteria and was first published in a paper titled "Cult Formation" in 1981 :
  1. a charismatic leader who increasingly becomes an object of worship as the general principles that may have originally sustained the group lose their power;
  2. a process of coercive persuasion or thought reform;
  3. economic, sexual, and other exploitation of group members by the leader and the ruling coterie.
Falun Dafa and Lifton's three criteria

* A charismatic leader who increasingly becomes an object of worship.
Exclusive claims made by Li Hongzhi, which are implicitly accepted by Falun Dafa practitioners without exemption, are the defining principles of the group.

For example, "Master Li" purportedly possesses supernatural powers.

Mr. Li claims to know "the top secret of the universe" and says "no religion can save people" but the "almighty Fa," which he exclusively represents. He is therefore essentially the chosen savior of man. The biography in his book "Zhuan Falun" claims that he first recognized his special powers at the age of 8.

Li Hongzhi's teachings also include the spinning "falun," which is a mystical "wheel of law" that he claims to be able to insert into his disciples' abdomens telekinetically.

Such fantastic and exclusive claims about a leader fit the classic profile of a personality-driven cult.

Falun Dafa followers, believe that Li Hongzhi is always right and they are not allowed to question the basic assumptions concerning his purported supernatural powers, teachings and/or opinions. His authority and infallibility appear to be absolute for the true believer, and therefore beyond what Falun Dafa followers consider reasonable doubt.

...

Persistent critics of Li Hongzhi and Falun Dafa have been repeatedly subjected to personal attacks, threats of litigation and frivolous lawsuits.

Li Hongzhi remains an absolute, authoritarian leader with little if any accountability, and there appears to be no limit to the scope of his personal power and influence within Falun Dafa.
* a process of coercive persuasion or thought reform
Sociologist Richard J. Ofshe explains, "Coercive persuasion and thought reform are alternate names for programs of social influence capable of producing substantial behavior and attitude change through the use of coercive tactics, persuasion, and/or interpersonal and group-based influence manipulations."

This is accomplished according to Ofshe by "intense interpersonal and psychological attack to destabilize an individual's sense of self" and "to promote conformity" within the framework of "an organized peer group."

Li Hongzhi through Falun Gong has promoted unreasonable fears about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions. He teaches his followers that the earth would have been destroyed, but he saved it. He also claims that "gods" will destroy those he disapproves of and that his followers must practice his prescribed program of "spiritual cultivation" or risk obliteration.

For Falun Gong followers, there is no legitimate reason to disagree with and/or leave the organization. Former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative, or even seen as "evil." While they may appear to be free to leave they often fear the consequences.

Mr. Li asks his followers to continuously keep "cultivating" and go on and on "cultivating" until they reach "perfection," something that no one can ever realistically hope to achieve as an ordinary man and woman within their lifetime. Such perfectionism is then supposedly deferred and only reachable in "other dimensions."

Li Hongzhi's program of coercive persuasion largely relies upon the cultivation not only of unreasonable fears but also prejudice, which ultimately serves to isolate and control his followers. "Master Li" manipulates the thinking and feelings of his followers to develop a certain seemingly predetermined and desired mindset.

In Mr. Li's worldview mixed-race people are part of a plot, contrived by the evil extraterrestrials. "By mixing the races of humans, the aliens make humans cast off gods," he told a gathering in Switzerland in 1998.

"Mixed races" are supposedly excluded from the "truth" and "have lost their roots, as if nobody in the paradise will take care of them. They belong to nowhere, and no places would accept them...the higher levels do not recognize such a human race."

According to Mr. Li, the offspring of mixed race unions are therefore "intellectually incomplete" or "with an incomplete body." In such cases, only he, Master Li, can help and "take care of it" (i.e., resolve the "incomplete" state). However, that can be done only if "such a person wants to practice cultivation."

Li Hongzhi also encourages hatred of homosexuals. He has said, "The disgusting homosexuality shows the dirty abnormal psychology of the gay who has lost his ability of reasoning at the present time," Li Hongzhi wrote in Volume II of "Zhuan Falun," or "Turning the Law Wheel," which was translated into English in 1996.

In his talk in Switzerland, Li Hongzhi also stated that gay people would be "eliminated" by "the gods." Asked in Frankfurt, Germany, in 1998 whether gays could practice Falun Gong, Mr. Li answered, "You can cultivate, but you must give up the bad conduct."

Li Hongzhi's disciples are taught to subordinate their own thoughts and feelings to the teachings of Falun Dafa. They essentially come to believe that "Master Li" has arranged everything and is their protection.

In describing her experience with Falun Dafa, cult expert and clinical psychologist Margaret Singer said that a practitioner will "actually say 'Don't Think. Just recite the Master's teaching.' "

Among Falun Dafa's many questionable mind-altering practices, this command to "stop thinking" and continuously "recite the Master's teaching," when heeded, meets the main criterion of cult control American communication researchers and cult experts Flo Conway and Jim Siegelman describe.
* exploitation of group members by the leader
Former Falun Dafa followers, the families of devotees and others concerned often relate the same allegations of abuse, which reflect a similar pattern of grievances.

Mr. Li teaches his followers that illness is caused by the evil deeds of a sick person, in this life or a previous one. According to his teachings, modern medicine treats only the symptoms of a disease, and not its underlying spiritual cause, which can be cured only by practicing Falun Gong.

"The only way to find yourself comfortably free of illnesses," Li Hongzhi writes in "Zhuan Falun," "is through cultivation practice!"

The complaints I have received about Falun Dafa are most often directly related to teachings about "spiritual cultivation," which may preclude seeing a doctor and/or taking prescribed medication.

As a result of such teachings some of Mr. Li's followers have reportedly died due to medical neglect, while many others have needlessly exacerbated their medical conditions.

I have also received serious complaints within the United States regarding the damage done by Falun Dafa through family estrangement. This has particularly occurred when families question and/or are critical of Mr. Li and his teachings.

It should be noted that "Master Li" has apparently accumulated substantial assets through his work within Falun Dafa.

Mr. Li moved to United States in 1995. In 1998 he reportedly bought a house in New York for $293,500. Li Hongzhi purchased his second residence in New Jersey for $580,000 the following year. The value of the two residences today may easily exceed a million dollars.
What can I do about this dangerous cult?

If you see anyone practicing Falun Gong in a neighborhood park, call the police immediately. Ask your neighbors about Falun Gong, to see if perhaps they are secretly involved. Warn those who aren't involved about the dangers. As the Communist Party realized, these people are taking part in a conspiracy to take over our nation and wrest it away from Christians like you and me!

Bear in mind that it is entirely possible that Hongzhi is working with demonic forces to undermine America. Do not approach these people by yourself! Let law enforcement and/or a Pastor handle the situation!

Read your Bible daily, and do not read any Falun Gong materials or watch non-Christian TV stations. By continually devoting yourself to the Lord's Perfect Word, you can focus on your own path to Heaven, and you will be protected from Li Hongzhi's mind control efforts!

Donate to Landover Baptist Church. Your donations (you may earmark them for cult-prevention efforts, or for general purposes) will help spread the word about this and other dangerous cults, like Wicca, Atheism, Satanism, Islam, and many more. Don't let them accomplish their evil goal of destroying our nation!


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Default Re: Falun Gong: Evil Cult Invading United States - 03-20-2009, 04:23 AM

Excellent write up JennyD and thanks for the warnings.

I've also heard some rumors that some of these cult members are involved in the trafficking of MSG.


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Default Re: Falun Gong: Evil Cult Invading United States - 03-21-2009, 08:27 PM

The sarin gas attacks are what worry me. It only takes a very small amount to kill you, like in the tip of an umbrella.


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Default Re: Falun Gong: Evil Cult Invading United States - 03-22-2009, 08:37 AM

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Excellent write up JennyD and thanks for the warnings.

I've also heard some rumors that some of these cult members are involved in the trafficking of MSG.
My Brother, they do more than trafficking in MSG. They are a major cause of traffic accidents, with their slow driving in the fast lanes and failing to use turn signals.


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Default Re: Falun Gong: Evil Cult Invading United States - 06-11-2009, 04:14 AM

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The sarin gas attacks are what worry me. It only takes a very small amount to kill you, like in the tip of an umbrella.
That would be Aum Shinrikyou (Chink Gibberish Deleted) and that is a Japanese doomsday cult. That is very dangerous and is now known as Aleph. This cult in this topic is from China and the leader Li Hongzhi is insane. He changed his birthday to the birthday of the Buddha Shakyamuni (the historical Buddha) and he made pictures of himself as Buddha. He has a huge ego and his cult is a dangerous mix of Qi Gong and slavish cultism. Beware!


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Default Re: Falun Gong: Evil Cult Invading United States - 01-27-2010, 12:47 AM

Greetings,

I would like to say that no matter how crazy the Falun Dafa ideas sound, you would be better to support them than the communists, who will not grant anyone the right to practice your denomination of Christianity within the Chinese government.

Falun Dafa is not anti Christian, but communist china is.

Just saying, you can call the falun dafa people crazy, but be careful who you support... Christianity is not legal in China unless you register yourself with the government and go to a government approved church!

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Default Re: Falun Gong: Evil Cult Invading United States - 03-18-2010, 01:10 AM

Very nice write up by JennyD though. We have these people all over the place in Hongcouver. For a while, after the banning, they were doing a hunger strike on the stairs of the Chinese embassy. She's right, who does that for meditation?


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Post Re: Falun Gong: Evil Cult Invading United States - 04-15-2010, 07:47 PM

The Persecution by The PRC government:

I noticed that Landover Baptist is giving out misinformation that can hurt, it's the same as spreading the propaganda and lies the Chinese Government has done. I know a lot of Falun Gong practitioners in different countries who are trying hard to prove their innocence after the July 1999 crackdown and persecution of Falun Gong by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) in China. The persecution that has lasted for a decade now, the Chinese regime have launched a large-scale propaganda attack to slander and defame Falun Gong and using the 'cult' label. Spreading the propaganda through the entire world. Falun Gong practitioners are subjected to many human rights violation in China. There are more than 80,000 reports of torture against Falun Gong adherents in China since 1999. Based on the David Kilgour and Matis investigation, Falun Gong practitioners are not only tortured but have their organs harvested for sale. Corneas, heart, liver, kidney etc... Falun Gong practitioners have healthy bodies and organs because they do Qigong exercise daily:[film of Satanic rituals deleted]

Jiang Zemin is considered the key person responsible for the persecution of Falun Gong. Jiang Zemin established three core policies in the persecution: "Destroy their reputation, bankrupt them financially and annihilate them physically". And gave orders to officials from top to bottom that “The death of Falun Gong practitioners from beating is nothing and shall be counted as suicide; the body shall be directly cremated without investigating the person's identification.” Many say it had to do with Jiang Zemin's personal jealousy over the popularity of Falun Gong and Li Hongzhi, overshadowing his own legacy. Right now, there are dozens of lawsuits from many countries against Jiang Zemins crime and genocide of Falun Gong.

The Chinese Government was a afraid of Falun Gong because so many people, over 70 million were practising and even officials in the Communist Party. They banned Falun Gong books from being published in 1996. Most of us know that the Chinese government wants to maintain control and power above all else. And they are afraid of dissidents and losing control over people, The government wants to be able to control peoples minds too and instill them with party culture and thinking. So that the Chinese peoples frame of thinking will be within the party culture and brainwashing, Like most Chinese subconsciously think of the CCP as China, “without the CCP, what will happen to China?”, equating the CCP and China the same, and if anything opposes the CCP it would be considered anti-China forces and the CCP would raise peoples nationalism towards it. Combined with regimented teaching and history, the internet censorship, its hard to realize the truth. They are afraid of any group that could be an opposition or threat to the Chinese Communist Party' (CCP). The Chinese government has wasted a quarter of the nations financial resources in the persecution according to WOIPFG. The Communist Party has killed over 60-80 million innocent Chinese people during the Great Cultural Revolution and The Great Leap Forward, and from since its rule. So far the United States have passed on three resolutions to end the persecution of Falun Gong.

[godless website deleted to protect women, children and other weak minded persons]The Persecution of Falun Gong in China [7m:29s]

On page seventy-nine of his book, Poisonous Deceit, the author writes,
“Jiang is the Only Leader to Slander Falun Gong”


“You see, at the same time Jiang ordered his henchmen to slander, torture, and murder
innocent Falun Gong men, women, and children, he also managed to garner a less than
flattering reputation for the nation of China. As a result, people everywhere think of China
as “the land of religious persecution,” “the nation that no one trusts” or such similar terms.
Anyway, Jiang has brought untold embarrassment to the people of China—this is a fact.
Jiang has not been able to gather any support, sympathy, or respect from any leader
of any nation on this Falun Gong issue. Why? Because the villainous deeds Jiang commits
against Falun Gong are unconscionable, barbaric, and against any civilized country's
human rights policies. For example, Jiang is the only leader of any nation to:”

1) initiate and order the brutal torture of practitioners using the most inhumane means ever
devised by man. This includes putting 30,000 volt electrically charged batons (super-
charged cattle prods!) on the faces and in the mouths of practitioners causing excruciating
pain, irreversible physical damage and, of course, disfigurement. Many others suffered
this same sadistic torture, on and in, their privates!

2) order the beating of imprisoned practitioners for hours at a time until the practitioners
literally go unconscious. Then the guards proceed to throw cold water on them to “revive”
them for more beatings. However, if the water doesn't revive them, the 30,000-volt
electric batons will. How? By putting the batons in the puddle of cold water that the
practitioner is lying in and electrocuting them until they either wake up, or simply die.

3) allow prison guards to put lit cigarettes on practitioners' faces, mouths, and private
parts. They even use sharpened stiff wire to pierce women's nipples in the most sadistic
manner.

4) lock up practitioners in cages so small that they can neither sit nor stand for weeks and
months on end; providing no facilities for bathing or using the toilet.

5) allow the guards to put human excrement on an already dirty cloth, cover a
practitioner's mouth with it, then wrap tape around the head to hold it in place over the
mouth while the practitioner is handcuffed to the bars in the cell.

6) handcuff practitioners behind their back, throw a rope over the top rung of the jail cell
bars, attach it to the handcuffs, hoist them up off the ground, and leave them there for days
or weeks at a time. An average person could take no more than 1-2 minutes of this torture.
While they are suspended in mid-air, the guards routinely beat them mercilessly.

7) allow the systematic rape of imprisoned female practitioners, that is, throwing them
naked into jail cells filled only with violent male criminals.

8 allow guards to take practitioners, strip them down to their undergarments, throw cold
water on them in the height of winter and then toss them into the snow, taunting them with
these words, “If you die it will count less than a dog's life. We have orders to count it as
a suicide!”

9) allow guards to throw boiling water on practitioners' bodies.

10) force practitioners to drink corrosive disinfectants or chemicals.

11) force practitioners to squat in the same awkward bent-over position for days at a time.
One hour of this torture would make most grown men wail in pain.

12) tie practitioners to a flat, cold metal bed, dump cold water on them and torture them
for hours at a time, forcing them to urinate and defecate right where they lie. This torture
can last for days on end.

13) handcuff two practitioners back-to-back and leave them standing for days or weeks
without bathroom facilities; forbidding them to move or even close their eyes.

14) allow the guards to take practitioners and force them to stand three inches from a wall
staring straight ahead, perfectly still, for many, many days in a row, without sleep. Anyone
who dares to move, ever so slightly, is savagely beaten and shocked with 30,000 volts.
The guards employ inmates to take shifts to make sure the practitioners do not fall asleep,
close their eyes, or move their bodies at all.

15) permit prison guards to ransack practitioners' homes and steal anything they want,
anytime they want, without requiring a search warrant.

16) force educational institutions, including high schools and colleges, not to admit Falun
Gong practitioners.

17) force the public to sign petitions denouncing Falun Gong.

18 force work units to turn in Falun Gong members or risk high fines.

19) permit police officers to extort huge sums of money in the form of fines anytime they
catch practitioners violating the illegal “laws” Jiang has enacted.

The fact that the rest of the world experiences Falun Gong as something good, while only
China experiences it as something bad, explains this whole Falun Gong issue in just a few
words, doesn't it?

Poisonous Deceit is a daring and timely work written by a top level Chinese Communist Party official in ex-President Jiang Zemin’s inner circle. This explosive and revealing book offers the reader a first ever, behind the scenes glimpse into the Party’s brutal and murderous crackdown on Falun Gong [...]



Falun Gong (Falun Dafa):


Falun Gong is one of the 84,000 cultivation disciplines in the Buddhist School. Cultivation practices have existed in history for a long time in Chinese culture, because every civilization always believed in gods and have valued virtue as fundamental of being human, and have put great importance to moral character. From what I know, Falun Gong originated from Falun Xiulian Dafa, it was passed down to a single disciple throughout history because it had strict requirement on character and great inborn quality. Li Hongzhi was taught by masters of the Buddhist and Daoist school at a young age and became the successor. He redesigned the practice so that it can be publicized and to allow the masses to practice and cultivate, Falun Gong was founded in 1992 by Li Hongzhi. Afterwards, Mr. Li has lectured on almost every major city in China, and years later lectured abroad in Europe, Australia and North America; and still goes to experience sharing conferences by Dafa students that takes place once a year. One of greatest improvement reported from practising Falun Gong is from health, because there are five different meditative exercises that are for refining your body.

Falun Dafa focuses on character cultivation. Character cultivation is when you improve every aspect of your character; which includes getting rid of the various attachments(fame and gain), desires, and character flaws people have. Cultivators are supposed to gradually achieve this. At the same time allowing you to assimilate to the universes nature that they refer to as [Truthfulness, Compassion, Forbearance]. You see practitioners emphasize this message a lot. I read that they say all matter has this nature and it is the thing that judges who is good and bad.

The book Zhuan Falun is the main teaching of the practice that is mostly studied. Seems to me a lot of emphasis is put on cultivation practice and evaluating your actions based on Zhen-Shan-Ren (True, Good, Endure). How you can be a good person. Online Book: [blatant commercial advertising deleted]

Mr. Li Hongzhi says Falun Dafa isn't a religion but future generations will regard it as one. Falun Dafa doesn't have religious formalities. From what I know, there is no donations, members list, churches, hierarchies, ceremonies and worships. In different regions there is study and exercise groups you could join, and you could read all their books online. Each person is a member of society like everybody else, who has a family and job; there are some who like to do volunteer work for Dafa. I think what counts is your heart for cultivation. When you cultivate, you try to be a better person and improve your character and take material things, desires, attachments, fame, gain, the things people are so attached more lightly, so your heart isn't a selfish one. When you do things you measure it using the guiding principles - Truthfulness, Compassion, and Forbearance.

In the East, even though Christianity uses religious forms in society, it can still be called cultivation too. I noticed Christianity relies a lot on faith, and when you pray to God and talk about your wrong doings or confess, and try to do better next time, your improving your character, and it is cultivation too. Religions are good if it can achieve that kind effect, teaching people to be good, and raising societies moral standards.

[Film of Snake-oil salesmen deleted]- Falun Dafa Introduction [8m:40s]


Founder Mr. Li Hongzhi:

Just letting people know there are lots of rumours about Li Hongzhi, his assets, the amount he makes. Many things, most of them came from the Chinese Government. Many of it were to smear his reputation, since their aim was to eliminate the practice in China. Some of the means are the harshest ever seen in history.

Falun Gongs and Li Hongzhi's have received hundreds of awards in Canada, United States, Europe, Australia, and across the world for lecturing and spreading the principles of Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance. Many of the awards are proclamation from Governments and Leaders - [film of various slants trying to cheat you deleted]

Religious Freedom talks about Rick Ross and says that you should be well-informed before seeking consultant from Rick Ross. Religious Freedom lists Rick Ross a False-expert. He lumps quite a number of religious groups as dangerous cults including Christianity. He didn't go to any university or college, and has a criminal record. He labels almost every religion out there a cult – including Christianity. He targets mostly new religious movements.


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Son, I didn't read that Godless wall of text. You will agree that if these slants simply became Baptists, none of the above would have happened. As far as I'm concerned, anything God inspires lawful leaders to do is good by me.




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Sunlight has offered no disagreements with Rich Ross's assertions: that The Falon Gong believes mixed-race people are aliens, that their leader demands to be worshipped, and that talk of persecution of the Falun Gong is unreasonable.

Sunlight, I take it that you agree with these assertions?


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Sunlight has offered no disagreements with Rich Ross's assertions: that The Falon Gong believes mixed-race people are aliens, that their leader demands to be worshipped, and that talk of persecution of the Falun Gong is unreasonable.

Sunlight, I take it that you agree with these assertions?
Sunlight isn't shining a very bright light on this vicious cult.

Sure, they're persecuted . . . but all they have to do is give up their ridiculous superstition and instead turn to Jesus (or even Tai Chi, for cryin' out loud), and they'll be fine!


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Post Re: Falun Gong: Evil Cult Invading United States - 04-30-2010, 01:30 AM

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Sunlight has offered no disagreements with Rich Ross's assertions: that The Falon Gong believes mixed-race people are aliens, that their leader demands to be worshiped, and that talk of persecution of the Falun Gong is unreasonable.

Sunlight, I take it that you agree with these assertions?

Hello Jeb,


I don't believe the Falun Gong believes in mixed-race people are aliens, that their leader demands to be worshipped..


I think it was that mixed race people aren't accepted by other kingdoms of Gods, because each human race belongs to a different cosmic body and if a race is mixed they will have no place and won't have a place in the heavens.


[http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/lectures/1996L.html] – mixed race (for your reference)


It was in one of his lectures held in different Fa-Conferences that usually takes place once a year around the world, the purpose is for students to share their experience so other can find their shortcomings and improve, it's also an opportunity for students to ask the teacher questions. Its not found in Zhuan Falun, the main teachings that practitioners always study. That's why I linked the book so you could see for yourself.


Falun Gong is accepted all around the world, for it's teachings of Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance. The link about awards you removed had hundreds of proclamations from governments around the world. There are photos and signatures from them.


The things about aliens was also brought up in one of his Fa-Conferences. I think it mentioned something about almost the entire human race has a layer in their bodies created by aliens. So the things that modern human beings invents goes according to their plans and invention, the idea is that aliens want the genetic code to obtain and clone a human body because they find that the human body is so perfect, and it is so as it was created by Gods. It's mentioned that they came during the industrial revolution, that's why the technology of this period of civilization is different than any other civilization.

The founder has never said he demands to be worshipped. But in cultivation practices the teacher is referred to as Master (shifu) and the students are usually disciples. And in Zhuan Falun, it mentions something in chapter three that the formalities of kowtowing and worshipping are of no longer any use in this time period, what matters is your heart and effort you put into cultivation.


http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/zfl_new_3.html – (Chapter 3)


What do I think of these 'assertions'? Well these were made among the community of cultivators, and it wasn't made public for spreading hate towards any group. So I don't think its a problem. In fact, if you read Zhuan Falun and accepted its contents, a person who begins his cultivation will eventually make it that far as he continues practising and searching for Falun Dafa material. By then he will probably be a person that lives according to Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance; who have obtained the Fa or Great Way
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I think it was that mixed race people aren't accepted by other kingdoms of Gods, because each human race belongs to a different cosmic body
Whites are from Mars, blacks are from Venus?

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and if a race is mixed they will have no place and won't have a place in the heavens.

[http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/lectures/1996L.html] – mixed race (for your reference)
No place in heaven? What a mean thing to believe! I believe that non-whites even get their own special heavens: blacks have one where all the cotton is cotton-candy, and every other plant is a watermelon, and flocks of fried chickens come clucking to your door just in time for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. In Asian heaven there will be a dog in every wok - and I'm talking soft, juicy purebreds, not a stringey, gamey mongrol among them.

And you believe mixed-race souls just DISSAPEAR? That's like atheism!

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the purpose is for students to share their experience so other can find their shortcomings and improve,
Revolutionary self-criticism sessions. Maybe the Communist Party hates the Falon Gong for it's copywrite violation?

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The link about awards you removed had hundreds of proclamations from governments around the world. There are photos and signatures from them.
All that proves is that Falun Gong members can vote.

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The things about aliens was also brought up in one of his Fa-Conferences. I think it mentioned something about almost the entire human race has a layer in their bodies created by aliens. So the things that modern human beings invents goes according to their plans and invention, the idea is that aliens want the genetic code to obtain and clone a human body because they find that the human body is so perfect, and it is so as it was created by Gods. It's mentioned that they came during the industrial revolution, that's why the technology of this period of civilization is different than any other civilization.
Wait, WHAT? Do you have any idea how crazy that sounds?

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Oh, he just wants us to worship him IN OUR HEARTS. Which is different HOW?

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In fact, if you read Zhuan Falun and accepted its contents, a person who begins his cultivation will eventually make it that far as he continues practising and searching for Falun Dafa material. By then he will probably be a person that lives according to Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance; who have obtained the Fa or Great Way
So, you're sayng that Falon Gong is falsifiable, in that if someone reads Falon Gong writings, and does evil deeds, it's proved false?

I'm just saying that because you mentioned many members of the Communist Party are Falon Gong believers.


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The things about aliens was also brought up in one of his Fa-Conferences. I think it mentioned something about almost the entire human race has a layer in their bodies created by aliens.
You must mean melanin, the stuff that makes skin brown, since almost (but not all of) the human race has a layer of melanin. Skin is the only "layer" in the human body, and everybody in the human race has every other part of skin.

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So the things that modern human beings invents goes according to their plans and invention, the idea is that aliens want the genetic code to obtain and clone a human body because they find that the human body is so perfect, and it is so as it was created by Gods.
So, aliens can't invent things because they weren't intelligently designed? They evolved, and therefore can't invent? I'm just trying to clarify, I want everyone to be clear that your beliefs don't sound crazy due to some language barrier, but rather your beliefs sound crazy because your beliefs ARE crazy.

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It's mentioned that they came during the industrial revolution, that's why the technology of this period of civilization is different than any other civilization.
"They" is the aliens? I thought you said the aliens can't invent stuff? And when you say "industrial revolution", do you mean the one happening in China today, or the one that happened in the west, during which China was at it's lowest ebb?

Honestly, I'm not mocking you, I'm really curious about this. How people come to believe childish fairy tales told by greedy egomaniacs is a fascination of mine.


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From your link:

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Why do the extraterrestrial UFOs come and go from nowhere and fly so fast?
Uh, because they're optical illusions?

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They are traveling in other dimensions; it is just so simple. If man tries to understand the unexplained phenomena in the universe from his own current scientific perspective or uses this method to study cultivation practice or religions, he will never get it in his research.
Whereas, if he just makes stuff up, he'll have endless research findings!

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He has to change his way of thinking, and he must understand it from another perspective. In the history of man, science is not only today’s so-called empirical science that was discovered or invented by the Europeans.
And the fact that europeans invented everything else at the exact same time is purely coincidental...
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Like, for example, the path of living in the stone age because your understanding of the universe comes from stuff you just make up:

"Hey look, that round-eye just found that cleaning wounds keeps you from dying of gangrene!"

"Good for them. That's their path. Our path is to slowly dance the gangreen away"

"Um, that cut on your finger smells and your arm is turning green"

"I blame the aliens".


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"Someone has taken advantage of me and made money from me." It becomes simply unbearable for this person! People take such things very seriously and cannot lose even a tiny bit of self-interest. Think about it. How pathetically this person lives!
"...P.S. the invisible Falon Gong god needs money. All you who complain about me buying a new car every time you donate....You're pathetic!"

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The Chinese culture, although the levels it involved were very high, yet because the people’s morality was no longer good, it had also been suppressed.
So in ancient China technology was more advanced than today, thanks to the technology of just making stuff up? People had a higher standard of living in ancient China than we have in the modern West? So who destroyed all the traces of this technology? Was it the aliens?

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Therefore, it was not passed down, and this lowest form of science from the West was left to man instead.
Curse this round-eye technology, due to which the majority of children don't die before age of 5! Where the majority of people die from obesity at 70 years of age, rather than dysentry as 3-year-olds.
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"It" is suffering?

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So when people suffer, it's their own fault? Then why are you whining to us about persecution - since you believe it's your own lack of cultivation that's persecuting you? We're a lot better off here in the West than people in China - doesn't that prove our "lowest science" is more "cultivated" than Falon Gong?


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this lowest form of science from the West
Sounds like this Falon Gong-show is just the boxer rebellion all over again. The "harmonious fists" believed that steam engines had demons inside them, because they rejected the proven scientific principals of Intelligent Combustion of 6000-year-old coal causing Intelligent Boiling.

Anyway, after they destroyed all the train tracks and telegraph wires along with the standard raping, murdering and torturing, us low westerners showed up, used our "lowest form" of machine guns and "lowest form" of high explosive to blast their "cultivated" fists into "cultivated" hamburger.

(Ever noticed that I've never been seen in the same place as Gary Brecher? Just saying.)


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Default Re: Falun Gong: Evil Cult Invading United States - 06-07-2010, 11:48 AM

FA LUN takes its defamatory actions towards China


Today, I am writing this article, which I hope to be published else where, to make more oversea Chinese aware of the evil essence of FA LUN. Of course, I will also publish it on Chinatown Forum, hoping the little friends living in Canada since their childhood can keep far away from this organization.


I can ensure all of you that everything below is the truth

I was still in China 11 years ago. Then, one afternoon we were suddenly informed to watch a special program on TV throughout our school. FA LUN was affirmed to be an evil organization for the reason that it instigated its members never to go for medical treatment when they were sick. Instead, each were convinced that they were able to get through by doing FA LUN exercise. Its adherents fired themselves to show their determination to protect their exercise. I was greatly shocked when I first caught sight of it, but still I found it was a bit too far from me. After all, everyone beside me was well educated and never had I came across such a member. However, to my surprise, I was confronted with some, who got the same yellow skin and dark eyes as me, after 11 years when I stayed in Canada far away from China.
Two weeks ago, Robert Dirk, a friend in Canada invited me to his home. He also said he had invited a QI GONG expert, which he claimed had a deep knowledge of QI GONG. Thus, I went along with a kind of curiosity. And that was more than I expected. The first sight of the so-called expert made me a bit uncomfortable. He had a very yellow face, and his hair didn't even have a beam of luster, so that I doubted weather he developed malnutrition. Robert had been in China for 3 months and showed a strong interest in the history of peasants' revolutions, which I thought might be because I often talked about some Chinese Idioms with him. And so we had a free talk, only to find he knew nothing about history. And still, I didn't doubt him, for people acquired knowledge at different time, and each had his own special field. Not until the so-called expert touched upon FA LUN did I knew that he was a member. Immediately, I began to refute him and asked him to leave. Robert did not know why I got so indignant. I explained that FA LUN did harm to a large number of people in China, and was banned later. Many of them fled abroad and act in collusion with the native organization that were hostile to China, denigrating China.
Yet what worries me most is those international friends who do not know the truth such as Robert. They are crazy with Chinese cultures, yet have no better approaches (I suppose many of the present Chinatowns do not reveal the soul of Chinese cultures.). They cherish the longing for China but are more inclined to be misguided to wrong destination by some organizations with ulterior motives.
Besides, I have received no less than 20 calls these two days, 3-5 of which came from the adherents of FA LUN, one accusing that I had destroyed their exercise and their master would punish me. If similar calls should come to me again, I will resort to police at once. However difficult it is, I shall never make any compromise to such an evil organization.

Of course, I would like to know how their master LI, who's now enjoying a good life far in New York, can punish me.
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Default Re: Falun Gong: Evil Cult Invading United States - 06-07-2010, 03:24 PM

This guy is a chink posing as an American. You can tell by the way he butchers God's favorite language (AMERICAN!).


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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