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Old 06-27-2007, 04:58 AM
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Don't do it out of anger. Don't swing too hard and always hug your child when you're done — when you're done spanking him or her using a wooden paddle signed, "Love Joey."

New Kensington resident Joey Salvati, 39, a father of two, was in the shower about a month ago when he first heard God speak to him about the matter. Whether it was an external or internal voice, he wasn't sure. He tried to ignore it, but it kept coming back, day after day, until he realized he had to do something about it. The message was for Salvati to make wooden paddles for corporal punishment and give them to parents who need help disciplining their children.

"I'm just going all by my heart," he said this week while sitting at his kitchen table. In the next room his mother watched TV in complete disagreement with everything he was doing, certain he would go to jail because of it. Upstairs his son worried that his friends at school would label his father a loon.

Salvati, on the other hand, did not have those concerns. His objective was to obey the message. "I believe it was given to me, and I'm sure I'll be buying a lot of timber," he said confident that many parents will agree with what he's doing. Many people disagree, however, including authorities on child discipline. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics, "Spanking has negative consequences and is no more effective than other forms of discipline. In fact, there's often a gray area between when spanking ends and child abuse begins."

Appointment slips are available on the site for parents to download and have their children fill out when they misbehave. Parents are supposed to explain to the child what he or she did wrong and that the child is being punished out of love. "This is all out of love," Salvati said. "A bad person is going to use a baseball bat." Although he has given about 25 paddles away stamped with the words, "Love Joey," above the handle, Salvati said he is going to start stamping the paddles with a red anti-abuse message that reads, "Never in anger."

Salvati said he did not spank his children while they were growing up —until recently. About a week ago, Salvati said his 15-year-old son, Bobby, was disrespectful and was forced to fill out an appointment slip and endure one swat. "I told (Bobby), 'I'll be damned if I'm going to tell other parents to do this and not use it on you,'" Salvati said. Embarrassed about the incident, Bobby said he's less inclined to misbehave again although his father didn't swing too hard.

"I think it's a good idea because it changes me," Bobby said. Seeing a growing problem with children, Salvati, who said he was spanked on occasion but never abused, thinks parents should give up on the popular Time-Out discipline procedure and take a harder line with their children. Playing on a well-know proverb, Salvati said, "Spare the rod and you spoil the child."


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New Kensington resident Joey Salvati has made 85 wooden paddles intended only for disciplining children and is giving them away. The paddles, which weigh about 13 ounces and are about 2 ˝ feet long, can be ordered Online at www.Spare-Rods.com at a cost of $5.75 for shipping. Information about using the paddles is included in the Web site. Salvati also has been giving the paddles away in the former Burger King parking lot along Tarentum Bridge Road. He has no plans to ever sell the paddles.
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:49 AM
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This is better than nothing, but what part of "rod" does this guy not understand? It is the "ROD of correction" that the Bible calls for, not some puny paddle.

Rods in Biblical times were hefty things, their modern equivalent would be a golf club or a baseball bat. Think of the difference in power between a baseball bat and a table-tennis paddle...When it comes to correcting the little ones, Jesus commands that you hit a home run!

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This is better than nothing, but what part of "rod" does this guy not understand? It is the "ROD of correction" that the Bible calls for, not some puny paddle.
Funny I was thinking the same thing. Paddles are something for college kids and women to play with. A proper rod is the only way to go. Ten licks ought to be the bare minimum for a proper Biblical communication seminar.
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Praise Jesus THIS man has heard His voice and knows when to follow orders. GLORY!!
He's 39, hears voices in the shower, and still lives with his mother. Not exactly the type of person I would look to for guidance.
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Not exactly the type of person I would look to for guidance.
And if you would pay attention you'd see that the debate on that has already started Ms. BossyBoots. It's not only using a paddle instead of a rod; it's the hugs thing after. Sounds like training for an S&M queer.
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And if you would pay attention you'd see that the debate on that has already started Ms. BossyBoots. It's not only using a paddle instead of a rod; it's the hugs thing after. Sounds like training for an S&M queer.


BossyBoots - I kind of like the sound of that.

And I'm glad to see that you agree with me that this guy is a total loser and nothing he says should be taken seriously. There may be hope for you yet.
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Praise Jesus we can get all the proper instruction from The Bible or from The Freehold Christian Book Store.

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2 Samuel 7:14
I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men

Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him

Proverbs 23:13
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Proverbs 23:14
Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.


The Bible doesn't just make a suggestion regarding The Rod of correction; IT DEMANDS IT!

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I much prefer a rod made of steel or iron. My favorite was this steel rod, maybe a meter long and 5 inches thick. After using that on my children they'd be sure to never commit such sin again because the power of Jesus had broken all of their fingers. Now their fingers are healed and they're praising the Lord! Praise Jesus and His power to stop sin!

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Upstairs his son worried that his friends at school would label his father a loon.
His father is making tools used to spank, discipline and cause utter agony and perhaps even debilitating injuries on small children, and he's worried about people labeling his father? Pfft. If I were him, I'd be more worried about those molotovs being traded at the school lunch break.
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The Bible doesn't just make a suggestion regarding The Rod of correction; IT DEMANDS IT!

Glory!
If I haven’t mentioned it you have quite the talent with a rod of correction Sister Talitha. I couldn’t help noticed the other day when you were discussing how you wanted your hedges trimmed with your gardener (to be honest I wasn’t spying, someone called in your discussion in as an assault) Just watching you swing that golf club, wow. Your gardener was down on the ground in an instant clutching his greasy head and screaming like a little girl while you were shouting “trim my bush right, little BOY!”. Then one, two, three swings at him in rapid succession, each swing drawing blood. It was awesome, some of the guys on the Security Detail can’t swing a club that quick Sister Talitha.

You must love Jesus a whole lot to practice with a club like that Sister Talitha.
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If I haven’t mentioned it you have quite the talent with a rod of correction Sister Talitha. I couldn’t help noticed the other day when you were discussing how you wanted your hedges trimmed with your gardener (to be honest I wasn’t spying, someone called in your discussion in as an assault) Just watching you swing that golf club, wow. Your gardener was down on the ground in an instant clutching his greasy head and screaming like a little girl while you were shouting “trim my bush right, little BOY!”. Then one, two, three swings at him in rapid succession, each swing drawing blood. It was awesome, some of the guys on the Security Detail can’t swing a club that quick Sister Talitha.

You must love Jesus a whole lot to practice with a club like that Sister Talitha.
Well, Thank You for saying that Pastor.
you know how irritated I get when I don't get my Bush trimmed to my liking.
You know, I used to have quite a temper until I had the Love of Jesus enter me.
Of course, those little yellow tablets help too.
But with those tablets,The Love of Jesus, and a good Joo Lawyer I don't have any problems now.

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Well, Thank You for saying that Pastor.
you know how irritated I get when I don't get my Bush trimmed to my liking.
You know, I used to have quite a temper until I had the Love of Jesus enter me.
Of course, those little yellow tablets help too.
But with those tablets,The Love of Jesus, and a good Joo Lawyer I don't have any problems now.

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Yes, that employee contract your lawyer drew up is the envy of many a Freehold employer. Did your gardener pay up on the damages he did your golf club with his head?
Got him to sell one of his Kidneys on the Internet.
Treated myself to a whole new set of Clubs and enough to pay for an Agency Gardener until he can work again.

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Sister, you are so compassionate that you remind me of Dick Cheney himself! When he was inconvenienced by Mr. Whittington's inability to avoid his birdshot, he was compassionate enough to forgive the man almost immediately after he was released from the hospital, even though Mr. Whittington's apology felt wooden! Surely you are a role model for all of us
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Sister, you are so compassionate that you remind me of Dick Cheney himself! When he was inconvenienced by Mr. Whittington's inability to avoid his birdshot, he was compassionate enough to forgive the man almost immediately after he was released from the hospital, even though Mr. Whittington's apology felt wooden! Surely you are a role model for all of us

Now why should the victim of a shooting be the one to apologize for getting shot?
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Now why should the victim of a shooting be the one to apologize for getting shot?
If a shooter grabs my gun while it is still in my hand, unsets the safety, pressed down on my finger so it pulls the trigger and gets shot, whose fault is that?
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If a shooter grabs my gun while it is still in my hand, unsets the safety, pressed down on my finger so it pulls the trigger and gets shot, whose fault is that?

DeadEye Dick didn't shoot an assailant whith whom he was struggling for possession of a gun. He shot a hunting buddy, and while I understand that hunting accidents happen, he should not have waited to make it known. He owed the man he shot an apology, not the other way around.
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Now why should the victim of a shooting be the one to apologize for getting shot?
Jews can't do anything right in your Nazi worldview, can they? Even when they apologise you still try and twist it so it looks like they're doing something wrong.
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You know what'd be really poetic justice? If Dick gets mauled by an animal, or "accidentally" shot by a fellow hunter on his next trip. I'd just sit back in my chair and laugh. Oh, and shortly afterwards post here and say "Told ya so".
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You know what'd be really poetic justice? If Dick gets mauled by an animal, or "accidentally" shot by a fellow hunter on his next trip. I'd just sit back in my chair and laugh. Oh, and shortly afterwards post here and say "Told ya so".
So you actually wish death on our Godly vice president? So noted.

By the way; The Honourable Dick Cheney is protected by Jesus Himself. You, being a tool of satan, are infinitely more likely to be killed in an unfortunate gun accident. Any day now.

Praise Jesus.
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