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Default Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

I have noticed several debates on this particular subject here. To all you godless atheists out there, let's settle this once and for all...

In the modern world it has become a widely spread lie that the earth is round. Of course, this is impossible. If the earth is round, then why don't people just fall off at the bottom?

The answer is simple: The Earth is not round!

Now, if we take a look at some scripture, it clearly tells us the earth is not round but flat:

Jeremiah 16:19:
O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

According to Jeremiah 16:19, the earth has ends. There is no way a spherical earth could have ends, and therefore the earth must be flat. The Book of Revelation tells a similar story:

Revelation 7:1:
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

A spherical earth cannot have corners, it is scientifically impossible. The only logical explanation is that the earth is flat. Checkmate atheists!

Isaiah 40:22:
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

What Isaiah actually describes here is as follows (note: this is a link to a video where a True Christian Scientist™ debunks a false Christian interpretation of this passage):



The following image is taken from a creation science book. According to real scientists, this is how the universe really looks like:



Here we see how the planets, the sun and the moon revolve around the flat earth:



Now, if you still don't believe these scientific facts, here are some real photographs taken at the ends of the earth:









As you can see, this is a solid proof the Earth is flat. Why else would it have edges like these? ...because the earth is flat! That's why.

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As you can see, this is a solid proof the Earth is flat. Why else would it have edges like these? ...because the earth is flat! That's why.
I am glad we can now finally close that discussion now that both the Holy Bible and scientific proof say that the Earth is flat.
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I always thought that people didn't fall off Earth because of gravity?

And those pictures that you have of the edge of the world? I've seen them before. They're photoshops.
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I always thought that people didn't fall off Earth because of gravity?
No, people don't fall off because of Intelligent Pulling, not gravity.

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No, people don't fall off because of Intelligent Pulling, not gravity.

Get your facts straight.

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Intelligent Pulling, the way it was described doesn't seem to answer my statement.
Why would intelligent pulling keep everyone on the planet, and yet you gave me 'proof' that showed me that that's why airplanes can go all the way across the world?

I just need you to elaborate more on that than to just give me something that basic.
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Intelligent Pulling, the way it was described doesn't seem to answer my statement.
Why would intelligent pulling keep everyone on the planet, and yet you gave me 'proof' that showed me that that's why airplanes can go all the way across the world?

I just need you to elaborate more on that than to just give me something that basic.
Read my article again, I have already answered your question. Why do you hate Jesus?
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Read my article again, I have already answered your question. Why do you hate Jesus?
OK I read the entire thread and it still didn't answer my question. In fact, This to me sounds about right:

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These pictures are wrong on so many levels, I have no idea where to begin.

  1. If the sun was hundreds of times bigger than Earth like in those pictures, we would burn up. The sun is no more than 500 miles away, as proven by mathematics. If this were true, the whole sky would be made up of the sun and the earth would be devoured in intense heat.
hate to break it to you but i think you'll find the distance of the sun has already been proven to be further away than 500 miles using mathmatics!
  1. Stars are not giant balls of red gas, but actually diamonds. Again, if stars like Arturus and Betelgeuse were so big, why do they look so small in the sky? Also when you look at them, they are not red. They are twinkly and silvery-white, just like diamonds.
if you were to take an orange. place it 1 meter in front of you. take a picture. then place it 10 meters in front of you. and take a picture. the picture at 10 meters makes the orange look smaller than it actually is. its a similar principal for the stars. they are so far away that only a tiny bit of light reaches the earth which is why they seem so tiny.
  1. The Earth is not a sphere. That's just a bogus old wives' tale that spread around so heavily that everyone believes that nonsense. If the Earth was really a sphere, then people in Australia would fall off into space. Gravity is a downwards force.
yes gravity is a downward force. where are you coming from exactly? in space there is no "down" as such. down and up only exists on planets. and as such if you went to australia you would not fall off because the centre of the earth is our "down".



Also, I do not hate Jesus. Where did you get that from?
The Jews obviously hated Jesus. They're the ones who crucified him.
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Also, I do not hate Jesus. Where did you get that from?
The Jews obviously hated Jesus. They're the ones who crucified him.
You mudslimes denied Him as your true and only saviour. How is that not hating Jesus?
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You mudslimes denied Him as your true and only saviour. How is that not hating Jesus?
So did the Jews.

I see that you have a section hating on Lutherans, but they didn't do that.
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So did the Jews.
Yes, indeed. God hates them along with all other false religious cults.
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I see that you have a section hating on Lutherans, but they didn't do that.
The Lutherans are false Christians. They don't follow the entire KJV1611 Holy Bible, especially not the following passage:

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Yes, indeed. God hates them along with all other false religious cults.

The Lutherans are false Christians. They don't follow the entire KJV1611 Holy Bible, especially not the following passage:

2 Timothy 3:16
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And what part of scripture do they not follow?

Martin Luther spoke out against the crazes of the Catholic Church, and actually TAUGHT the Bible.
He didn't twist it to fit his own thoughts like the Catholics were.
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Ah, here we go again. Go ahead, think what you will. The earth isn't flat just because some book says so. Use your heads.
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Ah, here we go again. Go ahead, think what you will. The earth isn't flat just because some book says so. Use your heads.
The Bible doesn't even totally come out with it and say that.

Who is to say that the Earth cannot be a sphere and still be on a pillar?

Who is to say that the Bible isn't full of things that shouldn't be taken literally?
Hasn't it been proven that Jesus taught in little stories (known as parables) and that these were just used to get a larger point across; not 100% true?
And if Jesus and God (as well as the Holy Spirit) are all the same, then can we not assume that the entire Bible should be taken with a grain of salt as to being not always 100% serious, but more or less also giving us little stories for our own interpretation as to what their true meaning is?
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The Bible doesn't even totally come out with it and say that.

Who is to say that the Earth cannot be a sphere and still be on a pillar?

Who is to say that the Bible isn't full of things that shouldn't be taken literally?
Hasn't it been proven that Jesus taught in little stories (known as parables) and that these were just used to get a larger point across; not 100% true?
And if Jesus and God (as well as the Holy Spirit) are all the same, then can we not assume that the entire Bible should be taken with a grain of salt as to being not always 100% serious, but more or less also giving us little stories for our own interpretation as to what their true meaning is?
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I always thought that people didn't fall off Earth because of gravity?
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You're an idiot.

Gravity makes things fall down. If the earth was round gravity would make people fall right off the underside.

Look, take a tennis ball and put a grain of rice on top of it. What happens? It sits there. That's gravity. Now turn the tennis ball upside down. Where is the grain of rice now? That's gravity too.

Since nobody falls off the Earth, it has to be flat. Idiot.

Honestly, I don't know why people can't just think things out for themselves.
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Gravity makes things fall down. If the earth was round gravity would make people fall right off the underside.

Look, take a tennis ball and put a grain of rice on top of it. What happens? It sits there. That's gravity. Now turn the tennis ball upside down. Where is the grain of rice now? That's gravity too.

Since nobody falls off the Earth, it has to be flat. Idiot.

Honestly, I don't know why people can't just think things out for themselves.
OK well now go put that tennis ball into the vacuum of space and do the same thing.
Give that tennis ball an atmosphere. Now do it.
You've just done a REAL scientific experiment. Good job

See, every object has it's own gravitational pull. But why, then, would we all not fly at other objects? The answer is simple. You see, the Earth's gravitational pull is greater than other objects' pulls, which causes everything to stay in place (unless acted on by another force, see Newton's Laws).
Earth's gravitational pull is constantly pulling down. Down is relative, however. Down is the SAME for everyone, no matter where you are. Down would be the center of the Earth. Everyone is pulled towards the center.
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OK well now go put that tennis ball into the vacuum of space and do the same thing.
Give that tennis ball an atmosphere. Now do it.
You've just done a REAL scientific experiment. Good job

See, every object has it's own gravitational pull. But why, then, would we all not fly at other objects? The answer is simple. You see, the Earth's gravitational pull is greater than other objects' pulls, which causes everything to stay in place (unless acted on by another force, see Newton's Laws).
Earth's gravitational pull is constantly pulling down. Down is relative, however. Down is the SAME for everyone, no matter where you are. Down would be the center of the Earth. Everyone is pulled towards the center.
I have no idea what you're talking about. Gravity has never been scientifically proved and hence still remains a theory. If you want to learn more about gravity then click here.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. Gravity has never been scientifically proved and hence still remains a theory. If you want to learn more about gravity then click here.
Religion could also be called a theory if you think about it, as it has never been proven.

The Bible is your proof you say. But the scientists have books as well. So you're all basically on even ground, no?
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Hello y'all I'm new here.

I was just wondering what your take is on the astronauts in regards to the Earth being flat? I mean they actually orbited it and saw it from a different perspective than anyone else. Wouldn't they be the most qualified to judge whether or not it's round or flat?
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