Birds, disgusting or creation science at work?

[Unfalsifiable]

We all know what Leviticus has to say about a certain few birds!

13And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15Every raven after his kind;
16And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Haha! Of course, we can eat these birds now thanks to Jesus and the apostle Paul.

But on a serious note I'd like to shift focus on to the humble woodpecker and how it so OBVIOUSLY proves creationism:

Some birds have unique structures that enable them to perform specialized functions in nature. The woodpecker is such an example. He has special shock absorbers in his beak and skull providing protection from the severe migraine headaches that might otherwise result from his hazardous occupation.



Imagine all the poor pre-woodpeckers knocking themselves out, getting their beaks stuck in trees until this feature "evolved." Most birds have three toes in front and one behind. The woodpecker has two in front and two behind to enable him to grasp onto the side of a tree and peck away. He also has stiff tail feathers to support him and a long sticky tongue designed for fishing the insects he feeds on out of the holes he pecks in the trees. We have to conclude, God designed him for his special occupation.

Source: http://www.rae.org/revev5.html

I apologise if the slightly edgy Old Testament humour which opened this post upset any of the ladies.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Birds, disgusting or creation science at work?

[...] the humble woodpecker and how it so OBVIOUSLY proves creationism:

Source: http://www.rae.org/revev5.html

That is a wonderful site for children to learn Biblical Science. I think this remark was particularly telling,

Imagine all the poor pre-woodpeckers knocking themselves out, getting their beaks stuck in trees until this feature "evolved."

I will offer a prize for the best answer to the question posed on the site:

QUESTIONS FOR STUDY

• 1. Describe briefly the logic used in this chapter to show how certain animals do not fit the theory of evolution.

[MarcoPolo]

Re: Birds, disgusting or creation science at work?

Say a person wants to bench 150 kilograms. His body is fairly untrained, and can only bench 60 kilograms.

What does this person do? He works his way up slowly: 65, 70, 75, 80, 85 etc. until he reaches 150.

Say a person wants to be able to break concrete with his head, like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQx1cicVKcU
Does he try on 18 blocks directly? Of course not, he'd smash his face bad. Even with one block.
What he does is he works his way there slowly. First tapping his head to the block, then gives it a bigger punch. Eventually he can break one block, and then he keeps going.

Say a bird wants that special larvae in the tree. But he has to whack the tree to get it. He doesn't whack away instantly, that would totally break his beak. Instead he bites off slowly, sometimes hammering the tree to loosen it up. Eventually his beak has become strong enough to whack at a faster and stronger rate.

And if the bird is lucky, one or two of his children will recieve this special ability.



Do I win?

[Unfalsifiable]

Re: Birds, disgusting or creation science at work?

Adapting and developing your body is proven, "Marco Polo", 'Evolution' across generations is what we have dis-proven. Move along!

[MarcoPolo]

Re: Birds, disgusting or creation science at work?

Adapting and developing your body is proven, "Marco Polo", 'Evolution' across generations is what we have dis-proven. Move along!

If you don't believe in evolution, then you don't believe in cancer.

Cancer is when a mutated cell somehow avoids the fail-safe system in your body, and is allowed to grow freely, despite it's faulty behavior.
Your body produces many mutated cells every day, 99,9% of these are bad for you and will be killed instantly. Those who live will become cancer.

Also, speaking about genetics, you would also not believe in genetic disorders such as Down's syndrome, Cystic fibrosis, Sickle cell anemia etc.

Your move.

[BelieverInGod]

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Uhh...... seed eating birds are Kosher so even according to the old law we would be able to eat. You left verse 11 and 20 off of your quote

Deuteronomy 14:11-20 Of all clean birds ye shall eat. But these are they of which ye shall not eat: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray, And the glede, and the kite, and the vulture after his kind, And every raven after his kind, And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind, The little owl, and the great owl, and the swan, And the pelican, and the gier eagle, and the cormorant, And the stork, and the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat. And every creeping thing that flieth is unclean unto you: they shall not be eaten. But of all clean fowls ye may eat.

Anyway, I'm not sure I'd really enjoy sitting down to roast eagle or owl.

[James Dewitt]

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If you don't believe in evolution, then you don't believe in cancer.

Cancer is when a mutated cell somehow avoids the fail-safe system in your body, and is allowed to grow freely, despite it's faulty behavior.
Your body produces many mutated cells every day, 99,9% of these are bad for you and will be killed instantly. Those who live will become cancer.

Also, speaking about genetics, you would also not believe in genetic disorders such as Down's syndrome, Cystic fibrosis, Sickle cell anemia etc.

Your move.

Cancer and all the other sickness are brought on by Demons.
1. Because of sins of the fathers, iniquities and our own sins.
2. As we understand more about the demons we know that sickness and disease is caused by demons. We have a sickness or disease we do DELIVERANCE on it. We then pray for healing and a miracle.
3. If we have done the above and there is no manifestation of healing then we go to the doctor.
4. However, when we first started DELIVERANCE we know that the demons try us to see if we believe, are serious, and to try to make us give up and not understand our authority in the Name of JESUS. When we are just dealing with demons of rejection, fear, etc. we don't necessarily have a manifestation immediately but it seems to be easier to believe that the demons are gone. With sickness we believe that we must have a manifestation or we are not healed.
5. To be successful with healings we must keep on with the DELIVERANCE and maybe even fast. (This kind goes out by prayer and fasting). The demons are trying us and we are not being overcomers because of the physical realm that we are dealing with instead of just the spiritual.
6. For example, we cast out fear. Then the next day we are not afraid. But if the demons come back we just cast it out again. It is just easier to believe. But with the physical we need more faith and patience. I believe we can be overcomers in this area when we fast and pray and cast out the demons. Maybe this is the KIND that comes out by prayer and fasting.

[MitzaLizalor]

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JESUS:

MARK 7 ©1611
18 And he saith vnto them, Are ye so without vnderstanding also? Doe yee not perceiue that whatsoeuer thing from without entreth into the man, it cannot defile him,
19 Because it entreth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
20 And he said, That which commeth out of the man, that defileth the man.
21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed euill thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
22 Thefts, couetousnesse, wickednesse, deceit, lasciuiousnesse, an euill eye, blasphemie, pride, foolishnesse:
23 All these euill things come from within, and defile the man.


PETER:

ACTS 10 ©1611
9 On the morrow as they went on their iourney, and drew nigh vnto the citie, Peter went vp vpon the house to pray, about the sixth houre.
10 And he became very hungry, and would haue eaten: But while they made ready, he fell into a traunce,
11 And saw heauen opened, and a certaine vessell descending vnto him, as it had beene a great sheete, knit at the foure corners, and let downe to the earth:
12 Wherein were all maner of foure footed beasts of the earth, and wilde beasts, and creeping things, and foules of the ayre.
13 And there came a voyce to him, Rise, Peter: kill, and eate.
14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I haue neuer eaten any thing that is common or vncleane.
15 And the voice spake vnto him againe the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
16 This was done thrise: & the vessel was receiued vp againe into heauen.

Poultry is very good in soup. Here is a recipe.

[SUV]

Re: Birds, disgusting or creation science at work?

Can you Believe it? Athian "scientists" say that birds are tiny dinosaurs!


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[Sam_the_saved]

Re: Birds, disgusting or creation science at work?

Can you Believe it? Athian "scientists" say that birds are tiny dinosaurs!


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It astounds me that these Athiests who parade around claiming themselves to be scientists expect us to believe that the sparrow in my backyard was a creature made up by evulotionists to try and disprove The Bible.

Of course, The Book of Job does refer to a leviathan and a behemoth, but these great creatures were designed by God, and certainly did not live before man!