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Angry BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

As we all know, one of the main objectives of modern monkey-worshiping medical scientists is to brainwash hapless women into disobeying the Bible, God and their husbands.

There are several ways they do this: for example, psychiatrists unanimously promote the demonic notions of Freudian psychology, instead of the Biblical Truth™: demonic possession makes people act weird. That’s how it is, folks.

Today, however, I want to talk about childbirth anaesthesia. It is a shockingly common practice at hospitals nowadays to alleviate the pain of a woman in childbirth using anaesthetics. This, however, is utterly demonic and reprehensible, and an act of rebellion against God.

Why is this? Well, after Eve caused the Fall of Man, God says to her:

Genesis 3:16:
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

That is right: women should suffer great pains during childbirth: it is God’s punishment upon the female gender for bringing sin into the world! Let us pause a moment to say thanks to the Lord for His Divine Love and Justice!

Psalm 48:9-14:
We have thought of thy lovingkindness, O God, in the midst of thy temple.
According to thy name, O God, so is thy praise unto the ends of the earth: thy right hand is full of righteousness.
Let mount Zion rejoice, let the daughters of Judah be glad, because of thy judgments.
Walk about Zion, and go round about her: tell the towers thereof.
Mark ye well her bulwarks, consider her palaces; that ye may tell it to the generation following.
For this God is our God for ever and ever: he will be our guide even unto death.


Right, let's continue. As always, the Bible is crystal clear on this:

Isaiah 26:15-18:
Thou hast increased the nation, O LORD, thou hast increased the nation: thou art glorified: thou hadst removed it far unto all the ends of the earth.
LORD, in trouble have they visited thee, they poured out a prayer when thy chastening was upon them.
Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD.
We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen.

This verse, which is taken from one of Isaiah’s prophecies about Judah, says the people have been in the Sight of the Lord “as a woman in childbirth,” which confirms that God sees women suffering when bearing children, and that He is watching every time His Just Punishment upon womankind springs into action again.

Another confirmation that God wants women to be in pain:

Micah 4:10:
Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies.

Of course, childbirth isn’t actually that much of a punishment, according to Jesus, as He says:

John 16:20-22:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.
A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.
And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.

When a son is born to a woman, she should forget her pains, as she is supposed to thank God for the birth of a son. In other words: stop whining. Be glad that God didn’t make you barren, as He did to so many women in the Bible (Genesis 16:1, Genesis 25:28, Genesis 29:31, 1 Samuel 1:5, etc.)!

According to Paul, unbelievers cannot escape from sudden destruction, like women cannot escape from travail during childbirth:

1 Thessalonians 5:1-3:
But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Also, Paul reminds us once again that women brought evil into this world, and that therefore, the pains of childbirth, which is her punishment, shall also be her salvation:

1 Timothy 2:13-15:
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

The first occurrence of using a painkiller to alleviate the rightful suffering of a woman during childbirth occurred was the case of Euphanie Macalyane, who was provided with a medical remedy by Agnes Sampson, a midwife and a witch. True Christian™ King James (yes, that’s the King James, of 1611 King James Bible fame), upon hearing this, burned Macalyane alive for her rebellion. Thank God for King James!

However, things started really going to Hell with god-mocking scientist James Baker Simpson, once living in Scotland, now burning in Hell. He was the first to apply chloroform as an analgesic for childbearing women. Probably, his affinity for narcotic substances started with drinking huge amounts of booze, as Scottish people are prone to do.

Anyway, when he tried to force this method upon all women in his country, there were many True Christians™ who opposed this demonic practice. They sent a short note to all doctors in the country, warning them for this satanic practice:

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To all seeming, Satan wishes to help suffering women but the upshot will be the collapse of society, for the fear of the Lord which depends upon the petitions of the afflicted will be destroyed.

Source: "Triumph Over Pain" by Rene Fuelop-Miller, pages 324-341

I could hardly have said it better myself: using anaesthetics during childbirth will eventually result in the collapse of society, as the fear of the Lord, the basis of all morality, is kept alive by pain and suffering, like that which occurs during childbirth.

Finally, all diseases and physical and mental troubles ultimately come from God, as He is the one who sends plagues:

Exodus 4:11:
And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

Leviticus 26:16:
I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.


As well as all other evils:

Isaiah 45:7:
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

So, any attempt to fight the diseases that God created is a direct attack upon Him. And the Bible warns us for such behaviour:

Isaiah 45:9:
Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?


To conclude, I hope I can count on the support of all of you in our attempt to ban this demonic practice from our Godly Country. God meant women to suffer, as a reminder of their guilty conscience in the whole Tree-of-Knowledge fiasco. Alleviating their pain is evil and demonic. Live with it. It’s what God says in the Bible.

Yours in Christ,

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Praise God! What a beautifully researched guide! How is it that the devil's "doctors" that you find in so many 'hospitals' don't study scientifically/biblically validated data like this in their places of "education"? I guess joo academy doesn't even cover the Old Testament any more. It really is a shame. There was a time when the hooked-nosed killers of Christ were at least part way there.

I'm praying for legislation that someday, the garbage that give birth in places like that should be required to sign documents showing that they acknowledge this Truth before accepting the devil's drugs into their veins. That way they will have NO excuse come Judgment Day!

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Beautiful report, I couldn't of said it better myself. Now to get my girlfriend to read it and make her understand.
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Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

As we all know, one of the main objectives of modern monkey-worshiping medical scientists is to brainwash hapless women into disobeying the Bible, God and their husbands.

There are several ways they do this: for example, psychiatrists unanimously promote the demonic notions of Freudian psychology, instead of the Biblical Truth™: demonic possession makes people act weird. That’s how it is, folks.

Today, however, I want to talk about childbirth anaesthesia. It is a shockingly common practice at hospitals nowadays to alleviate the pain of a woman in childbirth using anaesthetics. This, however, is utterly demonic and reprehensible, and an act of rebellion against God.

Why is this? Well, after Eve caused the Fall of Man, God says to her:

Genesis 3:16:
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

That is right: women should suffer great pains during childbirth: it is God’s punishment upon the female gender for bringing sin into the world! Let us pause a moment to say thanks to the Lord for His Divine Love and Justice!

Psalm 48:9-14:
We have thought of thy lovingkindness, O God, in the midst of thy temple.
According to thy name, O God, so is thy praise unto the ends of the earth: thy right hand is full of righteousness.
Let mount Zion rejoice, let the daughters of Judah be glad, because of thy judgments.
Walk about Zion, and go round about her: tell the towers thereof.
Mark ye well her bulwarks, consider her palaces; that ye may tell it to the generation following.
For this God is our God for ever and ever: he will be our guide even unto death.


Right, let's continue. As always, the Bible is crystal clear on this:

Isaiah 26:15-18:
Thou hast increased the nation, O LORD, thou hast increased the nation: thou art glorified: thou hadst removed it far unto all the ends of the earth.
LORD, in trouble have they visited thee, they poured out a prayer when thy chastening was upon them.
Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD.
We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen.

This verse, which is taken from one of Isaiah’s prophecies about Judah, says the people have been in the Sight of the Lord “as a woman in childbirth,” which confirms that God sees women suffering when bearing children, and that He is watching every time His Just Punishment upon womankind springs into action again.

Another confirmation that God wants women to be in pain:

Micah 4:10:
Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies.

Of course, childbirth isn’t actually that much of a punishment, according to Jesus, as He says:

John 16:20-22:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.
A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.
And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.

When a son is born to a woman, she should forget her pains, as she is supposed to thank God for the birth of a son. In other words: stop whining. Be glad that God didn’t make you barren, as He did to so many women in the Bible (Genesis 16:1, Genesis 25:28, Genesis 29:31, 1 Samuel 1:5, etc.)!

According to Paul, unbelievers cannot escape from sudden destruction, like women cannot escape from travail during childbirth:

1 Thessalonians 5:1-3:
But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Also, Paul reminds us once again that women brought evil into this world, and that therefore, the pains of childbirth, which is her punishment, shall also be her salvation:

1 Timothy 2:13-15:
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

The first occurrence of using a painkiller to alleviate the rightful suffering of a woman during childbirth occurred was the case of Euphanie Macalyane, who was provided with a medical remedy by Agnes Sampson, a midwife and a witch. True Christian™ King James (yes, that’s the King James, of 1611 King James Bible fame), upon hearing this, burned Macalyane alive for her rebellion. Thank God for King James!

However, things started really going to Hell with god-mocking scientist James Baker Simpson, once living in Scotland, now burning in Hell. He was the first to apply chloroform as an analgesic for childbearing women. Probably, his affinity for narcotic substances started with drinking huge amounts of booze, as Scottish people are prone to do.

Anyway, when he tried to force this method upon all women in his country, there were many True Christians™ who opposed this demonic practice. They sent a short note to all doctors in the country, warning them for this satanic practice:


Source: "Triumph Over Pain" by Rene Fuelop-Miller, pages 324-341

I could hardly have said it better myself: using anaesthetics during childbirth will eventually result in the collapse of society, as the fear of the Lord, the basis of all morality, is kept alive by pain and suffering, like that which occurs during childbirth.

Finally, all diseases and physical and mental troubles ultimately come from God, as He is the one who sends plagues:

Exodus 4:11:
And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

Leviticus 26:16:
I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.


As well as all other evils:

Isaiah 45:7:
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

So, any attempt to fight the diseases that God created is a direct attack upon Him. And the Bible warns us for such behaviour:

Isaiah 45:9:
Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?


To conclude, I hope I can count on the support of all of you in our attempt to ban this demonic practice from our Godly Country. God meant women to suffer, as a reminder of their guilty conscience in the whole Tree-of-Knowledge fiasco. Alleviating their pain is evil and demonic. Live with it. It’s what God says in the Bible.

Yours in Christ,

True Disciple

I had both of my children as God commanded, but the problem was I still had very little pain despite having no pain numbing drugs. I have always had a high pain threshold, I guess it's from all those Christian beatings as a child, I actually slept between and during most of the contractions and had very little pain as they came out of that messy hole. Sorry I may have gotten a little too graphic, Mainly for you Godly men.
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And what about for women who could die during childbirth without it?
or if its needed to deliver a child in emergency?
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And what about for women who could die during childbirth without it?
or if its needed to deliver a child in emergency?
Don't ask me, ask God. He has written the rules in Genesis 3:16. We don't question the Bible, we just follow it. All I can say is that womankind shouldn't think it could get away lightly after bringing evil into this world. It is a just punishment of God.

Anyway, we're talking about pain-killers here, not about other medical procedures, which, of course, are still contrary to the will of God, who is the One who sends plagues and diseases.
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And what about for women who could die during childbirth without it?
or if its needed to deliver a child in emergency?
A woman who will die without anesthesia? I would really like you to point out who this woman is, because I checked with my husband (who works with these drugs) and he's still laughing. Anesthesia is more likely to kill the woman than any pain she will suffer through.

No, it's just another form of sissifying America. Oh..... I don't want to have to hurt....... so doctor please shove that needle into my spine and fill me with a morphine derivative.

That being said, if a woman does die during childbirth, then it was God's will. Personally I've never gone through more than 2 1/2 hours of labor, but I chalk that up to being a True Christian™
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Who needs anesthesia anyway?

Just in case it was time, my Momma had me drink about a 5th of Rum every day for a week before the baby came.

The baby and I were nice and relaxed. In fact, I don't remember most of the day I had Tater. I passed out when my water broke. When I woke up a few hours later I had a beatuiful baby boy and a HELL of a headache. I was also real thirsty.
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The Bible says that men should not have cushy office jobs either. Any man who is not toiling and sweating while he works is disobeying God (unless he is doing God's work like our good men here). In fact, modern society is all wrong. Men should all be farming and they should not be using any labor-saving devices or air conditioning which cause them not to sweat. Retirement is not allowed either as the Bible explicitly states that a man has to work until he drops dead.
Gen3:7 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; 18Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
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wow.. i believe in a natural birth but if complications arise then action must be taken.. and i would not advise getting drunk while being pregnant... thats usually how retarded babies are born... that fifth of rum may not seem like nothing to you but its alot for that lil baby.. and god doesnt want to punish woman and neither should a man...
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wow.. i believe in a natural birth but if complications arise then action must be taken..
Then you are rebelling against God and his Curse on womankind as described in Genesis 3:16. Why do you hate God?

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Of course not. Retard babies are born because God punishes their parents for their iniquity. Every Christian knows that.

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If that would be true, then why did He punish womankind in Genesis 3:16? That wouldn't really make much sense, would it?
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The best women of all should moan when giving birth. Not releasing those demon-infested screams that make glass shatter!


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Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

As we all know, one of the main objectives of modern monkey-worshiping medical scientists is to brainwash hapless women into disobeying the Bible, God and their husbands.

There are several ways they do this: for example, psychiatrists unanimously promote the demonic notions of Freudian psychology, instead of the Biblical Truth™: demonic possession makes people act weird. That’s how it is, folks.

Today, however, I want to talk about childbirth anaesthesia. It is a shockingly common practice at hospitals nowadays to alleviate the pain of a woman in childbirth using anaesthetics. This, however, is utterly demonic and reprehensible, and an act of rebellion against God.

Why is this? Well, after Eve caused the Fall of Man, God says to her:

Genesis 3:16:
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

That is right: women should suffer great pains during childbirth: it is God’s punishment upon the female gender for bringing sin into the world! Let us pause a moment to say thanks to the Lord for His Divine Love and Justice!

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We have thought of thy lovingkindness, O God, in the midst of thy temple.
According to thy name, O God, so is thy praise unto the ends of the earth: thy right hand is full of righteousness.
Let mount Zion rejoice, let the daughters of Judah be glad, because of thy judgments.
Walk about Zion, and go round about her: tell the towers thereof.
Mark ye well her bulwarks, consider her palaces; that ye may tell it to the generation following.
For this God is our God for ever and ever: he will be our guide even unto death.


Right, let's continue. As always, the Bible is crystal clear on this:

Isaiah 26:15-18:
Thou hast increased the nation, O LORD, thou hast increased the nation: thou art glorified: thou hadst removed it far unto all the ends of the earth.
LORD, in trouble have they visited thee, they poured out a prayer when thy chastening was upon them.
Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD.
We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen.

This verse, which is taken from one of Isaiah’s prophecies about Judah, says the people have been in the Sight of the Lord “as a woman in childbirth,” which confirms that God sees women suffering when bearing children, and that He is watching every time His Just Punishment upon womankind springs into action again.

Another confirmation that God wants women to be in pain:

Micah 4:10:
Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies.

Of course, childbirth isn’t actually that much of a punishment, according to Jesus, as He says:

John 16:20-22:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.
A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.
And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.

When a son is born to a woman, she should forget her pains, as she is supposed to thank God for the birth of a son. In other words: stop whining. Be glad that God didn’t make you barren, as He did to so many women in the Bible (Genesis 16:1, Genesis 25:28, Genesis 29:31, 1 Samuel 1:5, etc.)!

According to Paul, unbelievers cannot escape from sudden destruction, like women cannot escape from travail during childbirth:

1 Thessalonians 5:1-3:
But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Also, Paul reminds us once again that women brought evil into this world, and that therefore, the pains of childbirth, which is her punishment, shall also be her salvation:

1 Timothy 2:13-15:
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

The first occurrence of using a painkiller to alleviate the rightful suffering of a woman during childbirth occurred was the case of Euphanie Macalyane, who was provided with a medical remedy by Agnes Sampson, a midwife and a witch. True Christian™ King James (yes, that’s the King James, of 1611 King James Bible fame), upon hearing this, burned Macalyane alive for her rebellion. Thank God for King James!

However, things started really going to Hell with god-mocking scientist James Baker Simpson, once living in Scotland, now burning in Hell. He was the first to apply chloroform as an analgesic for childbearing women. Probably, his affinity for narcotic substances started with drinking huge amounts of booze, as Scottish people are prone to do.

Anyway, when he tried to force this method upon all women in his country, there were many True Christians™ who opposed this demonic practice. They sent a short note to all doctors in the country, warning them for this satanic practice:


Source: "Triumph Over Pain" by Rene Fuelop-Miller, pages 324-341

I could hardly have said it better myself: using anaesthetics during childbirth will eventually result in the collapse of society, as the fear of the Lord, the basis of all morality, is kept alive by pain and suffering, like that which occurs during childbirth.

Finally, all diseases and physical and mental troubles ultimately come from God, as He is the one who sends plagues:

Exodus 4:11:
And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

Leviticus 26:16:
I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.


As well as all other evils:

Isaiah 45:7:
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

So, any attempt to fight the diseases that God created is a direct attack upon Him. And the Bible warns us for such behaviour:

Isaiah 45:9:
Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?


To conclude, I hope I can count on the support of all of you in our attempt to ban this demonic practice from our Godly Country. God meant women to suffer, as a reminder of their guilty conscience in the whole Tree-of-Knowledge fiasco. Alleviating their pain is evil and demonic. Live with it. It’s what God says in the Bible.

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I defiantly agree with you, if god wanted women to not be in pain during child birth he would of made it so. Anesthetics just compromise the will of god.
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Are you a woman? If so, you had better want children! Or do you want to burn in hell for all eternity?

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And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
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Could someone explain this? I love God, and I really want to understand, but I just dont.
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Could someone explain this? I love God, and I really want to understand, but I just dont.
What specifically do you not understand? The Word of God seems pretty clear to me. Maybe you should stop trying to think for yourself so much and instead put your faith in Him.

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Are you a woman? If so, you had better want children! Or do you want to burn in hell for all eternity?

Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.[/COLOR]
I thought I could just try and continue with faith and charity etc, we've got enough of an over population problem as it is. Maybe adoption. I just don't fancy the whole giving birth bit, it sounds painful and I spent a month in hospital last summer and would rather not go in one ever again if I can help it.
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