[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

So if evil is created by God why is evil a bad thing?

Because God said so. God really hates those that are evil: Proverbs 6:16-19 "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."

[nkdpagan]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

... to my posting of Job 1:5 ...

Sorry...Job 1:6

[nkdpagan]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Because God said so. God really hates those that are evil:

But then God is a self loather, and he then punishes us for being what he made us...and says he loves us after setting us up for failure.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

he then punishes us for being what he made us...and says he loves us after setting us up for failure

So?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

But then God is a self loather, and he then punishes us for being what he made us...and says he loves us after setting us up for failure.

Just how much of the Bible have you read?

Romans 9:19-24: Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

[nkdpagan]

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Just how much of the Bible have you read?

Romans 9:19-24: Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

Remember I did read Job, so this I have heard...but if God does it, is it a fault? Or should this be a behavior I should emulate?

My reaction has its root in my religious upbringing, but not what was in the Bible, but what I was shown in the Bible, by priests and ministers, with their own agenda.

[Meek and Humble]

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Remember I did read Job, so this I have heard...but if God does it, is it a fault? Or should this be a behavior I should emulate?

My reaction has its root in my religious upbringing, but not what was in the Bible, but what I was shown in the Bible, by priests and ministers, with their own agenda.

No. Your job is to follow the commandments, shut up, and never question the Lord.

[stv2kplus4]

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this post is an act of love, to bridge undestanding, there is no hate in my heart on this...
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I am curious, i see a lot a claims of people being 'true Christians', If I read 1 John 4, i can get an idea of some of the indicaters, and one thing it says is that if a Man says he loves God, but hates his brother, he is a liar. I have a hard concept with the term "True Christian" as we cannot puch God of his throne and decide this. I see a lot of name calling and what not, so is it more than just reading the KJV (my favorite) and actually striving to live his teachings.i know Christ knows we arnt perfect, and i believe, he wants us to strive to be perfect...
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But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible
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But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
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9And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
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21Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
23Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.
24And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.
25But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
26The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
27Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
28But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
29And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
30And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
31So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
32Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
33Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
34And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
35So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I can't understand a word of that. Your grammar is so atrocious that your point is irretrievably lost. And you quote from a false bible, not God's Holy Word.

KJV only, please.

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[stv2kplus4]

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im sure some 'ring leaders' will quickly excommunicate me here, they will see quickly that i am very familiar with the KJV and the 4 gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke , John.But its a matter of learning the truth of the scriptures by spirit, not every word a man says

[stv2kplus4]

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are you talking about my grammer, yes, i do some typos'..(but it should be understandable for the savvy) i hope it is more understandable now.

I am curious, i see a lot a claims of people being 'true Christians', If I read 1 John 4, i can get an idea of some of the indicaters, and one thing it says is that if a man says he loves God, but hates his brother, he is a liar. I have a hard concept with the term "True Christian" as we cannot push God of his throne and decide this. I see a lot of name calling and what not, so is it more than just reading the KJV (my favorite) and actually striving to live his teachings. I know Christ knows we arn't perfect, and i believe, he wants us to strive to be perfect...

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those scriptural quotes are from the KJV. i dont understand.

[Felicity]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

@stv2kplus4 Why don't you just ask Jesus for better grammar skills?

[stv2kplus4]

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Of course it belongs here in the "things the bible doesnt say"..section
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its doesnt say its a duty label people as true/false Christians.
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it doesnt say uts a duty to rebuke ALL, but those who sin against YOU.
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it doesnt say to call people hurtful names.
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it DOES say things about 'railers' and not to be that way.........you know what that means? (look at your things about all the people Jesus dislikes or whatever at the bottom of your posts, considering you have no idea about my heart, isnt that railing?)

of course, i am with the understanding that the Messiah came with the NEW message. and to change the ways of the past , some of the ways of the OT, a new convenant with man. right?

[Cindy Lou Jenkins]

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one thing it says is that if a man says he loves God, but hates his brother, he is a liar.

If you are trying to suggest that the Bible contradicts itself, i assure you it does not.

Luke 14:26 (King James Version)

26If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

(Billy Bob: I approve this post.)

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

i think its terrible to label me as 'unsaved trash', you have no idea.
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how hurtful.
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But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

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do we understand about the spirit of truth, whats in our hearts, how what comes out of our mouths is what defiles us?
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isnt the grammer thing really just a 'cheap shot' at me? and for what?

your brother in Christ.