Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say
im sure some 'ring leaders' will quickly excommunicate me here, they will see quickly that i am very familiar with the KJV and the 4 gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke , John.But its a matter of learning the truth of the scriptures by spirit, not every word a man says
This is a sticky topic.
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Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say
I can't understand a word of that. Your grammar is so atrocious that your point is irretrievably lost. And you quote from a false bible, not God's Holy Word.
KJV only, please.
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this post is an act of love, to bridge undestanding, there is no hate in my heart on this...
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I am curious, i see a lot a claims of people being 'true Christians', If I read 1 John 4, i can get an idea of some of the indicaters, and one thing it says is that if a Man says he loves God, but hates his brother, he is a liar. I have a hard concept with the term "True Christian" as we cannot puch God of his throne and decide this. I see a lot of name calling and what not, so is it more than just reading the KJV (my favorite) and actually striving to live his teachings.i know Christ knows we arnt perfect, and i believe, he wants us to strive to be perfect...
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But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible
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But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
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9And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
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21Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
23Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.
24And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.
25But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
26The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
27Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
28But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
29And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
30And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
31So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
32Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
33Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
34And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
35So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
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No. Your job is to follow the commandments, shut up, and never question the Lord.Originally posted by nkdpagan View PostRemember I did read Job, so this I have heard...but if God does it, is it a fault? Or should this be a behavior I should emulate?
My reaction has its root in my religious upbringing, but not what was in the Bible, but what I was shown in the Bible, by priests and ministers, with their own agenda.
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Remember I did read Job, so this I have heard...but if God does it, is it a fault? Or should this be a behavior I should emulate?Originally posted by Pastor Isaac Peters View PostJust how much of the Bible have you read?
Romans 9:19-24: Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
My reaction has its root in my religious upbringing, but not what was in the Bible, but what I was shown in the Bible, by priests and ministers, with their own agenda.
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Just how much of the Bible have you read?Originally posted by nkdpagan View PostBut then God is a self loather, and he then punishes us for being what he made us...and says he loves us after setting us up for failure.
Romans 9:19-24: Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
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So?Originally posted by nkdpagan View Posthe then punishes us for being what he made us...and says he loves us after setting us up for failure
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But then God is a self loather, and he then punishes us for being what he made us...and says he loves us after setting us up for failure.Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View PostBecause God said so. God really hates those that are evil:
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Because God said so. God really hates those that are evil: Proverbs 6:16-19 "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."Originally posted by nkdpagan View PostSo if evil is created by God why is evil a bad thing?
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Evil means "bad things".Originally posted by nkdpagan View PostSo if evil is created by God why is evil a bad thing?
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So if evil is created by God why is evil a bad thing?Originally posted by Pastor Isaac Peters View Post
Isaiah 45:7: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].
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This is not an idle question for me, in fact, it relates directly to my posting of Job 1:5 in the introductions.
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Evil is the absence of good, just as darkness is the absence of light.
Hippy-dippy false Christians often claim that Albert Einstein said that in order to resolve the problem of evil. There are just a few small problems:
- He never said it.
- So what if he had?
- It isn't true.
Isaiah 45:7: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].
Evil and darkness are clearly things that God creates, not merely the absence of something else.
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Which lies are those, exactly?Originally posted by The Cantabrian View PostWhat an interesting alliance here, formed between the communist atheists and the protestant fundamentalists.
Let me be very clear on this. I have no problem with any aspect of catholic history. Why? Because catholics like myself are not indoctrinated by propaganda about allegations about the church which are absolutely FALSE. We have heard many lies about the crusades
Oh, so Hitler was excommunicated? Those pictures of the Pope with Fascist leaders are photoshopped?, many lies about the holocaust,
What written about Galileo here was false?many lies about Galileo,
Such as?many lies about the inquisition
We have nothing to gain by rewriting history. Your church does, though...and catholics are SICK of people rewriting history like this.
The European witch-hunts started in the 1320s under the decree of the Pope.Witch burnings??? Protestants were mostly to blame!!!
And actually, Protestants tended to hang their victims, while Catholics burned them.
I will. But I don't think there were many of them in South and Central America.Attacks and oppression of native americans?? ASK THE PURITANS!!!!
Thankfully, I have already made a post that outlines the history of Catholicism and slavery (and besides, Church of England are just Catholic-lites, not real Christians).Slave trade??? Ask the church of england!!!!
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Excuse me?! Just because I'm Russian you assume I'm a communist?! Do you have any idea the horrors communism caused in my nation! How dare you!Originally posted by The Cantabrian View PostWhat an interesting alliance here, formed between the communist atheists and the protestant fundamentalists.
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