[The Cantabrian]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

I would like to add some views on this matter.

The Bible is silent on many issues, and scripture by itself is insufficient. That is why Christ appointed a 'rock' on which his church would be built, and on which it would grow and develop as society grew and developed.

Pressing matters on which the Bible is silent include genetic engineering, euthanasia, transsexual operations, environmental action, animal rights, human rights, etc. We need to make sure that as Christians we are acting and speaking in a way in which God wants. So if scripture cannot tell us, we look first and foremost to the Church to guide us. Unless you have a pope to lead, there is a risk that people will embark on private interpretation of scripture which can lead to all sorts of undesirable consequences. The pope, led and counselled by the Holy Ghost, provides a pivotal role in such matters.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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The Bible has been preserved only to the extent necessary to preserve "essential teachings."

What a puny, inept god those liberals worship. Our God has no problem preserving every word:

Psalm 12:6-7: The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

Isaiah 40:8: The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Matt. 24:35: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

[TheBibleBanger]

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I was especially motivated to read this when I saw one of the points that Pastor Isaac Peters mentioned being widely quoted as Biblical, but which in fact, is not: (1. God helps those who help themselves.)

I've been burning about these false quotes for years! But this is the first venue I found in which I was able to discuss and expose these falsities. I am so thankful to come across this thread!

I hope it's okay to add something here. I don't know if the following expression (which has been falsely attributed to the Bible) is rampant, or if it's restricted to certain areas... But I grew up hearing adults say, "If you take one step, God takes two!"

Now, when I was a kid, I had only read snippets of the Bible; but even then I hated that expression! It just didn't sound right; what about the times when we're unable to take a single step, eh??

Then, the summer I turned 17, I dedicated myself to reading the entire Bible from cover to cover. It took me 2 and a half months. I remember keeping an eye out for that blurb, but it was nowhere in the Word.

Believe it or not, to this day when I tell people who use that phrase that it's not Biblical, they say, "Oh no, it's there! You just have to read your Bible!" But I have since read the Bible from beginning to end at least 3 full times, and that phrase is not in the Bible.

P.S. I know I don't have any special wisdom just because I've read the Bible a few times. Reading isn't the same as inspired and proper interpretation. I simply wanted to see for myself what God said. I also wanted to be able to differentiate God's Word from the dribble that people so often attribute to 'being in the Bible.'

[Brother Temperance]

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Amen... The RCC really screwed things up when they booted the eastern Christians (Byzantine, eastern Ortodox, Coptics, etc.) out of the church in 1054 or questioning papal infallibilty and not wanting priests to marry and have good Christian gfamilies.

Good point, priestly celibacy is nowhere in the Bible. The apostles were quite clearly married:
1 Corinthians 9:4 Have we not power to eat and to drink?
5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?

Catholic "bishops" are in fact not bishops at all, for they fail the basic criteria set out by the Bible:
1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)



How anyone can get priestly celibacy from that is beyond me.

Just have faith and you'll get to heaven-works don't matter one bit!

James 2:24 "See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone."

"See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone." is not in the Bible. I think you mean "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only."

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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The gifts of the Spirit, such as tongues, have ceased.

Nowhere in the Bible does the Spirit put an expiration date on His gifts. The closest thing to a Biblical proof is a strained interpretation of the following:

1 Cor. 13:8: Charity never faileth: but whether [there be] prophecies, they shall fail; whether [there be] tongues, they shall cease; whether [there be] knowledge, it shall vanish away.

However, that verse must be read to be internally consistent. If tongues have ceased, then it must also be the case that prophecies have failed and knowledge has vanished away. Have these other things come to pass? (On second thought, in the liberal church of compromise, knowledge most certainly has vanished away, but we True Christians™ still have it.)

[Brother Barnabus]

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But then, what's the explanation? How do you reconcile it?

If anyone has the blasphemous audacity to imply that the Bible contradicts itself, the following protocol is implemented:

1. Question their motives ..example "Why do you hate Jesus?"
2. Question their religious affiliation ..... "Are you a Godless heathen?"
3. Question their sexual orientation? "Are you a homer/lezbean, morfodite sodomite?
4. Question their patriotism "Are you a Eurotrash Commie?"
5. Question their intelligence "How many fingers on one hand is your IQ?"

Feel free to add your own. God mockers deserve no mercy.

Amen!

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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dont you see that's a question, its not a statement saying its a shame to have long hair, its asking is it a shame to have long hair.

Do you know what a rhetorical question is?

and back then nearly everyone had long hair.

Please provide your historical evidence for that assertion. While you're at it, please explain what "nearly everyone" did has to do with God's will.

[Jo Freddie]

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I'd like to add one more to this:

5. It's o.k. for men to have long hair, since Jesus did.

Absolutely NOT! Those portraits of Jesus looking like a rock star were concocted in the 60's by a bunch of atheist liberals. All True Christian men are to look like Marines; anything less is downright homer.

Lev 19:27 [KJV] Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.

[Kaneaintable]

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1 Cor. 11:14: Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

dont you see that's a question, its not a statement saying its a shame to have long hair, its asking is it a shame to have long hair.

and back then nearly everyone had long hair.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Where in the bible does it say he doesnt?

1 Cor. 11:14: Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

[Levi Jones]

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Where in the bible does it say he doesnt? I was just telling the guy who said they only started drawing him in the 60's like that, was wrong because theyve been doing it since at least 400AD

As Landover Baptist Church's assistant Youth Pastor, I think you should read our syllabus for new posters as written by Pastor Billy-Reuben. It really explains all you need to know as far as our beliefs. It also outlines what is expected as far as your behavior on these forums.

Here are your rights as articulated by Dr. Enobarbus.

New members are requested to make an introduction for themselves.

We always encourage everyone to back up all claims with scripture from the Holy Bible.

Chances are the question you want to have answered has been asked before. I would be sure to use the search function before diving head first into people who are tired of hearing the same question over and over.

[Kaneaintable]

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Dear friend:

This thread is about the Bible. Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus had long hair? As I've already said, portraits of Jesus made since the Bible was written are not God's Word.

Where in the bible does it say he doesnt? I was just telling the guy who said they only started drawing him in the 60's like that, was wrong because theyve been doing it since at least 400AD

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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4th centuary, he's been depicted with long hair since around the 4th centuary, get your facts straight first

Dear friend:

This thread is about the Bible. Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus had long hair? As I've already said, portraits of Jesus made since the Bible was written are not God's Word.

[DumbassCopter]

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I'd like to add one more to this:

5. It's o.k. for men to have long hair, since Jesus did.

Absolutely NOT! Those portraits of Jesus looking like a rock star were concocted in the 60's by a bunch of atheist liberals. All True Christian men are to look like Marines; anything less is downright homer.

4th centuary, he's been depicted with long hair since around the 4th centuary, get your facts straight first

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Oh, sure a little local recycling here and there doesn't seem too troublesome, the real problem is the motivation behind the choice of one's actions and the long term agenda. That's where people start debating, and many use the Bible for speaking points in this debate.

Could you advise, what doesn't the Bible say on this issue -- or what it does? Either way; I'm ready to learn.

Hi, and thank you for your question. We have a thread on recycling here.