True Christians(tm) educate a misguided False Christian

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MODERATOR'S NOTE: These are several posts spanning a couple of different threads which have been merged into one.

No, we think you are a joke. Jesus temporarily suffered and died on the cross at Calvary for MY sins, but not yours, false Christian.

God hates you.

How dare you sir! How DARE YOU claim that God hates anyone! Cursed are those that practice iniquity, yes, but as long as men breathe air in their lungs, there is still hope. And you sir, are cruching any hope left if indeed he is not a true believer. I would watch my tongue if I were you.

Titus 3:2 says'To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.'

Be gentle sir. Be loving and kind. Not because I tell you, but because your God demands this of us all.

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Rev. Jim educates a misguided False Christian on the Bible

I would be more than happy to discuss with you why we follow the Bible 100% and do not err from it in any way and also show you what the Bible is really about, on another thread. I don't want this thread derailed any longer.

Ok...last thing....You said yourself you follow the Bible 100% and do not error from it in any way???? Thats incredible....Because you must be the ONLY PERFECT church in the entire world if this is true. Truly unbelievable! You know/understand 100% of the Bible the way God intended for it to be followed and do not error from it in any way! Incredible!

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Help me BAN Pokemon !

That is correct. We are a perfect church. We follow all of the Bible (Matt. 4:4) and do not sin (1 John 3:6-9). The reason why that sounds "incredible" is the vast majority of churches and denominations do not follow what God wants and are thus imperfect. Which is why I think you would do good if you stuck around and learned from us, then you could join us in Heaven one day.

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Re: Mock GOD or JESUS and DIE!

Dead as a doornail and roasting in HELL!

You seem very pleased that someone is burning ETERNALLY!!! I dont think it is in any way right to be PLEASED to know that someone be in HELL!

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: 666: The number of the beast

How dare you sir! How DARE YOU claim that God hates anyone! Cursed are those that practice iniquity....

It doesn't say "cursed", it explicitly says that God hates them.

Psalm 5:5-6 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

So here we have a specific example of God hating people. Not just the sin, but the sinner as well! We can also find another testament to this in the book of Psalms.

Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence His soul hateth.

Furthermore, Pastor Ezekiel is showing tough love towards sinners such as that person and yourself. The Bible tells us not to coddle the unsaved.


Rev. 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Mock GOD or JESUS and DIE!

You seem very pleased that someone is burning ETERNALLY!!! I dont think it is in any way right to be PLEASED to know that someone be in HELL!

Why not? The Bible says we should celebrate when sinners are sent to Hell.

Revelation 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

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Re: 666: The number of the beast

It doesn't say "cursed", it explicitly says that God hates them.

Psalm 5:5-6 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

So here we have a specific example of God hating people. Not just the sin, but the sinner as well! We can also find another testament to this in the book of Psalms.

Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence His soul hateth.

Furthermore, Pastor Ezekiel is showing tough love towards sinners such as that person and yourself. The Bible tells us not to coddle the unsaved.


Rev. 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

You MUST BE KIDDING! You call someone telling an unsaved person 'God hates you' to be TOUGH LOVE! You are insane in even trying to justify this!!!

By the way, God in no way, shape or form informs us to personally bash anyone! Infact, John 3:16 says that God loved the world so much that He sacrificed His own Son to save it!

Mark 12:30-31 ' And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength; this is the first commandment. And the second is like namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

By the way, this is Christ Himself talking. Your excuses of Ezekiel are futile and invalid!

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Re: Mock GOD or JESUS and DIE!

Why not? The Bible says we should celebrate when sinners are sent to Hell.

Revelation 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

God be with anyone who might have heard you preach a message. I respectfully disagree with your interpretation of that scripture. Its not talking about saved men rejoicing! Its referring to the unbelievers of the earth rejoicing, having submitted to the beast, because they hate the plagues and the message of the 2 prophets.

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Re: Help me BAN Pokemon !

That is correct. We are a perfect church. We follow all of the Bible (Matt. 4:4) and do not sin (1 John 3:6-9). The reason why that sounds "incredible" is the vast majority of churches and denominations do not follow what God wants and are thus imperfect. Which is why I think you would do good if you stuck around and learned from us, then you could join us in Heaven one day.

Again, you fail to correctly interpret the scripture. The scripture you refer to in John doesnt mean you live a 'perfect sin-free' life. It means if you live habitually in sin, you have not been transformed by christs power and purity.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Mock GOD or JESUS and DIE!

God be with anyone who might have heard you preach a message. I respectfully disagree with your interpretation of that scripture. Its not talking about saved men rejoicing! Its referring to the unbelievers of the earth rejoicing, having submitted to the beast, because they hate the plagues and the message of the 2 prophets.

I'm not interpreting the Scripture. I'm just understanding for what it says. If you read the verses immediately following it, 11 and 12 it says these are saved people and are then admitted into Heaven.

Rev. 11:11-12 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Help me BAN Pokemon !

Again, you fail to correctly interpret the scripture. The scripture you refer to in John doesnt mean you live a 'perfect sin-free' life. It means if you live habitually in sin, you have not been transformed by christs power and purity.

Again, I don't "interpret" Scripture. You can see plainly from the verses that we True Christians(tm) do not sin.

1st John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1st John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1st John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1st John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Look at that first verse, number six. Those who abide in Christ do not sin. Those that sin are not Christians. The last verse, number nine, tells us those who are born of God (Christians) don't sin and can't sin either.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: 666: The number of the beast

By the way, God in no way, shape or form informs us to personally bash anyone! ....

By the way, this is Christ Himself talking. Your excuses of Ezekiel are futile and invalid!

Ok, here are some examples of Christ Himself talking. And he is "bashing" others, in your words...

Matthew 12:34 "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things?"

Matthew 15:26 "But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs."

The first verse is where Jesus is addressing the Pharisees as "vipers". The second is where he is referring to a Canaanite woman and considers her a dog. How is this any different than what Pastor Ezekiel does?

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Re: Mock GOD or JESUS and DIE!

I'm not interpreting the Scripture. I'm just understanding for what it says. If you read the verses immediately following it, 11 and 12 it says these are saved people and are then admitted into Heaven.

Rev. 11:11-12 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

In these verses, all highlighted red (them, they, their) is refering to calling up the 2 prophets up to heaven. You see, in verse 10 the men rejoicing, whom were unsaved, that the 2 prophets who had 'tormented' those who dwelt on the earth with plagues and their message. Then in verses 11-12 the prophets are the ones called up to heaven, and the unsaved who were rejoicing previously, were reacting out of fear, for seeing their resurrection was absolute proof that their message was true and the Jesus is God and Messiah.

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Re: 666: The number of the beast

You MUST BE KIDDING! You call someone telling an unsaved person 'God hates you' to be TOUGH LOVE! You are insane in even trying to justify this!!!

By the way, God in no way, shape or form informs us to personally bash anyone! Infact, John 3:16 says that God loved the world so much that He sacrificed His own Son to save it!

Mark 12:30-31 ' And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength; this is the first commandment. And the second is like namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

By the way, this is Christ Himself talking. Your excuses of Ezekiel are futile and invalid!

Leviticus 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

We don't want to hate you in our hearts, that's why we speak up when you sin.

Loving a neighbor is does not mean staying quiet until he dies and burns in Hell, as a matter of fact that is the opposite of loving.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Mock GOD or JESUS and DIE!

Admittedly the Bible isn't clear on who exactly goes to Heaven, whether the prophets or the rest of the people, so I will give you a better example instead. Let's take a look at Psalms.

Psalm 37:12-13 The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth. The LORD shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.

God laughs at those who are going to Hell. Clear and simple.