[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

cir·cle   
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noun, verb, -cled, -cling.
–noun

16. a sphere or orb: the circle of the earth.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/circle

Here is the correct link.

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle* of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

* circle חוג chuwg

Isaiah 22:18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball**into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house.

** ball דור duwr

Do you see the difference now? If Isaiah had wanted to say ball, he would have said ball.

[Tea_Party_Minister]

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I can see that the world is turning evil. Jesus will surely return any day now to deliver me from this evil society of "rational thinkers..."

Evil atheist scientists are trying to destroy the souls of True Christians™ by insisting that we came from monkeys and that our earth is more than a few thousand years old. Just because their evidence and scientific measurements can "prove" that the earth was not created in 7 days, then Genesis is inaccurate? Well, if that's rational thinking, then I reason that rational thinking is for the damned.

How dare the scientists question the Word of God!

Scientists are surely terrorists against God's word for trying to disprove Him. Scientific research is a sin and was designed by Satan to lead people to Hell by questioning God's Word. Scientists should all be burned for their witchcraft! Everything we need to know is in the Holy Bible (KJV).

[Bogdana Alkeav]

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Bogdana
What did you think of that article of the giants though? It is pretty amazing how far the scientists will go to deceive people.

You mean the anonymously written article on the random website full of supposed news-clippings from obscure small-town 19th century newspapers? Yeah, my mind is blown.

Can I ask you something? Why is it when you started posting here, you were saying that Christians shouldn't ignore science, and now you're instead saying all scientists are Satanists and liars?

You are aware that the majority of scientists believe in God, right?

[Tea_Party_Minister]

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You mean the anonymously written article on the random website full of supposed news-clippings from obscure small-town 19th century newspapers? Yeah, my mind is blown.

Can I ask you something? Why is it when you started posting here, you were saying that Christians shouldn't ignore science, and now you're instead saying all scientists are Satanists and liars?

You are aware that the majority of scientists believe in God, right?

Woman, the Holy Bible (KJV) commands your silence!

True Christians™ do not believe in science and scientists do not believe in the Holy Bible or they would not need to study science and question God's teachings.

The only science that we need to study is the science taught in the Holy Bible (KJV). Today's scientists may believe in their gods, but it is not the God I know.

[epignosis]

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You mean the anonymously written article on the random website full of supposed news-clippings from obscure small-town 19th century newspapers? Yeah, my mind is blown.

Can I ask you something? Why is it when you started posting here, you were saying that Christians shouldn't ignore science, and now you're instead saying all scientists are Satanists and liars?

You are aware that the majority of scientists believe in God, right?

I thought is was about 40%. I don't say all scientists are Satanists or liars.
I also think that the scientists have learned and done some amazing things. It's just too bad they threw away what they have stood for, on this issue. That is to prove first and have evidence, then say what the conclusion, is.
What they did do was say first and then spend 150 years trying to prove it, but have gotten nowhere. They are probably further away now.
Because they have spent big bucks on researching what they thought would prove them right, and it hasn't. So now what?

[Tea_Party_Minister]

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[...] it's just too bad [scientists] threw away what they have stood for, on this issue. That is to prove first and have evidence, then say what the conclusion, is.

What they did do was say first and then spend 150 years trying to prove it, but have gotten nowhere. They are probably further away now.

Because they have spent big bucks on researching what they thought would prove them right, and it hasn't. So now what?

I know! They can't prove themselves right, can they, epignosis?! Of course they are getting further away from the truth! They should give up and just read the Holy Bible (KJV).

You obviously know a lot about science and their so-called "contributions" and I appreciate you sharing your wisdom here. You're sure right that scientists always state conclusions before having evidence. That's the "scientific method" as I understand it. Silly scientists!

I know what you mean, scientists haven't discovered anything in 150 years and they are getting nowhere, wasting time and money with all that so-called "research." Don't they realize that all the answers are in the Holy Bible (KJV)?! And what idiots those college students are, trying to understand silly things like atoms and cells and micro-organisms. HA! Fools! Only God can understand those things...

[Bogdana Alkeav]

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I thought is was about 40%.

Actually, less than 40% of scientists say there is no God. That leaves 2/3rds of them that do.

www.livescience.com/379-scientists-belief-god-varies-starkly-discipline.html

I also think that the scientists have learned and done some amazing things. It's just too bad they threw away what they have stood for, on this issue. That is to prove first and have evidence, then say what the conclusion, is.
What they did do was say first and then spend 150 years trying to prove it, but have gotten nowhere. They are probably further away now.
Because they have spent big bucks on researching what they thought would prove them right, and it hasn't. So now what?

[epignosis]

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I know! They can't prove themselves right, can they, epignosis?! Of course they are getting further away from the truth! They should give up and just read the Holy Bible (KJV).

You obviously know a lot about science and their so-called "contributions" and I appreciate you sharing your wisdom here. You're sure right that scientists always state conclusions before having evidence. That's the "scientific method" as I understand it. Silly scientists!

I know what you mean, scientists haven't discovered anything in 150 years and they are getting nowhere, wasting time and money with all that so-called "research." Don't they realize that all the answers are in the Holy Bible (KJV)?! And what idiots those college students are, trying to understand silly things like atoms and cells and micro-organisms. HA! Fools! Only God can understand those things...

It's true that the scientist have no proof of 'evolution' and have no answers for the start to life.
But they have learned many things along the way. From the bible we are told almost nothing about all the life that has come and gone, we knew nothing about DNA, and cells and atoms etc. Many things have been learned in chemistry, mathematics,and astronomy. What about all the galaxies, and stars and really how big the universe is. And I don't expect the scientists to know everything, to come to a conclusion. But I do expect evidence and rational thinking. Also when they don't know about something like the start to life, why don't they say that creation is possible, because they don't know it isn't creation. In other words to be honest about it. And say that.
For myself the scientists have open up a lot of very interesting things, I like to explore and learn and figure things out and to create. Scientists have given me all of this. I would have liked to be a scientist.
This also means I do not judge them as individuals, that is not my place.
I can say though if the thinking they come up with is from God or not, but that's it.
But there is no salvation from the scientists, they will not be able to solve mankind's problems, so it is really foolish to trust in the scientists. It is a dead end.

[epignosis]

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This is the same old stuff.
In the first place DNA kills 'evolution'. 'Evolution' could never get past, this. DNA is a set of complicated programming, that gives all the code make a host. The very first DNA would have had , no programming at all. It is without heredity. No information about , how to make a cell for example, let alone thousands or millions to make some animal. DNA without heredity can not mutate something it doesn't have. so you can't get bone material for example from nothing. Where did the instructions come from to make DNA that is usable? I already mentioned the scientists say it is really impossible for RNA and proteins to form . Because they need each other to do it. The RNA is a precursor to DNA, but you need the programming. So 'evolution' has nothing to work with. Even just a cell that divides, you can not split into 2 half's or it will die. This cell does not know it has to survive, it would not know how to, and yet it would have to do this before it dies and it would have to do this correctly the first time, no mistakes. And then it is only a copy of the first cell. Still no heredity.
The reality is that the scientists can not get past this first hurdle. What scientists say, is this will happen , somehow on it's own. ( not very scientific)
By the way this doesn't work, with higher animals either. But you would never get to that point.

[Tea_Party_Minister]

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It's true that the scientist have no proof of 'evolution' and have no answers for the start to life [...]

[...] But there is no salvation from the scientists, they will not be able to solve mankind's problems, so it is really foolish to trust in the scientists. It is a dead end.

You are so wise, epignosis! Scientists have no proof at all of evolution. All those fossils were surely planted there by Satan and carbon dating and DNA research is undoubtedly all lies. And you're absolutely right that scientists know absolutely nothing about the origins of life, nor how to solve ANY of mankind's problems. Indeed, you are correct, my brother, only a fool would EVER trust anything scientists say. Scientific research IS totally a dead end.

I find it interesting that you said you almost became a scientist. I'm glad you didn't become a scientist! You would have wasted your time reading textbooks written by the agents of Satan who poison minds with so-called "knowledge", causing people to question and doubt the Lord's holy word. Having avoided such "schooling," your mind is as open to His Truth as the Grand Canyon and you are among the few fortunate enough to be able read and fully accept the Truth in the only book worth reading, the Holy Bible (KJV). May His words echo in your hollow mind, uncluttered with useless information.

[Tea_Party_Minister]

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Actually, less than 40% of scientists say there is no God. That leaves 2/3rds of them that do.

Who can argue with math like that?

[epignosis]

Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

You are so wise, epignosis! Scientists have no proof at all of evolution. All those fossils were surely planted there by Satan and carbon dating and DNA research is undoubtedly all lies. And you're absolutely right that scientists know absolutely nothing about the origins of life, nor how to solve ANY of mankind's problems. Indeed, you are correct, my brother, only a fool would EVER trust anything scientists say. Scientific research IS totally a dead end.

I find it interesting that you said you almost became a scientist. I'm glad you didn't become a scientist! You would have wasted your time reading textbooks written by the agents of Satan who poison minds with so-called "knowledge", causing people to question and doubt the Lord's holy word. Having avoided such "schooling," your mind is as open to His Truth as the Grand Canyon and you are among the few fortunate enough to be able read and fully accept the Truth in the only book worth reading, the Holy Bible (KJV). May His words echo in your hollow mind, uncluttered with useless information.

Actually I did not almost become a scientists, I am and artist, and pursued that. But I do like to find out how things work. So science interests me.
But if you think about it ,it takes a lot of schooling and peer pressure, to get someone to think 'evolution' actually happens. Because that is not what we see every day in our world. That is not what there is evidence for.

I am not wise ( certainly not on my own). And a belief in a God is the last thing I thought I would be interested in.

2 Timothy 3 (King James Version)

2 Timothy 3

16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

But there is truth, because we are here and real , there has to be a real answer. It's just where do you find it? before I became interested in a God, I became like a scientist and had to get proof every little step of the way.
It was a journey, and sometimes not easy. I do not consider myself religious in anyway. But a searcher, for the real answers.

[epignosis]

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Actually, less than 40% of scientists say there is no God. That leaves 2/3rds of them that do.

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By comparing human genetic patterns around the earth, scientists have found clear evidence that all humans have a common ancestor, a source of the DNA of all people who have ever lived, including each of us. In 1988, Newsweek magazine presented those findings in a report entitled “The Search for Adam and Eve.” Those studies were based on a type of mitochondrial DNA, genetic material passed on only by the female. Reports in 1995 about research on male DNA point to the same conclusion—that “there was an ancestral ‘Adam,’ whose genetic material on the [Y] chromosome is common to every man now on earth,” as Time magazine put it.
Now in recent years, some scientists are saying they can take this even further back . To apes or what ever.
But the answer is still the same, humans came from one pair.
The other thing is if the scientists keep revising earlier claims , when is there a final and correct answer? Is today's science fact, tomorrows science fiction?
The bible was written thousands of years ago, and the words there are still the same, still relevant, and still up-to-date. ( even with science)
No one needs the scientists OK to believe in a God or not. No one needs to know any science at all. Most people in history, didn't.

2 Timothy 4:3-4 (King James Version)

3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


This holds true for religions and scientists. What this is saying, people will want teachers that will tickle their ears, and tell them what they want to hear. This frees them up so that they can do what they want, with no accountability.

[Two-Dollar Bill]

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Who can argue with math like that?

I believe the boffins call this "fuzzy numbers".

[Bogdana Alkeav]

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This is the same old stuff.
In the first place DNA kills 'evolution'. 'Evolution' could never get past, this. DNA is a set of complicated programming, that gives all the code make a host. The very first DNA would have had , no programming at all. It is without heredity. No information about , how to make a cell for example, let alone thousands or millions to make some animal. DNA without heredity can not mutate something it doesn't have. so you can't get bone material for example from nothing. Where did the instructions come from to make DNA that is usable? I already mentioned the scientists say it is really impossible for RNA and proteins to form . Because they need each other to do it. The RNA is a precursor to DNA, but you need the programming. So 'evolution' has nothing to work with. Even just a cell that divides, you can not split into 2 half's or it will die. This cell does not know it has to survive, it would not know how to, and yet it would have to do this before it dies and it would have to do this correctly the first time, no mistakes. And then it is only a copy of the first cell. Still no heredity.
The reality is that the scientists can not get past this first hurdle. What scientists say, is this will happen , somehow on it's own. ( not very scientific)
By the way this doesn't work, with higher animals either. But you would never get to that point.

How many times do I have to explain this. Evolution does not have ANYTHING to do with how life formed. It merely explains how life behaves. I'm not trying to convince you there is no God. I'm not trying to tell you how the first life was formed. I just don't see how you can deny that the life that is already here has evolved.

You are aware that the majority of people who believe in evolution also believe in God, right?