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  • Brother Gonzalez
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Originally posted by agnesaliencat View Post
    Forcing a child into marriage regardless of age is never in the child's best interests
    You like absolutes, don't you? NEVER is a strong word, and should not be used.


    , as it's basically saying "I brought you into this world, and now I get to choose who you love".

    Who said "love"?. Maybe we just want our grandchildren to be safe marrying our daughters to good Christian men. That is LOVE. The fact that your child loves or not their spouses is a modern concept, the same modernity that brought atomic bombs and AIDS. I prefer to stick to God.


    Is that how children's rights work?

    Children do not have any "rights". In fact, no one has them.


    If you are theist, then your God gfave you your rights, they do not belong to you and they are limited to what your God wants.


    If you are atheist, then you know "having" rights is BS. You have what you have earnt; you have to earn your rights. Tell a Saudi they have the right to free speech, or a French they have the right to defend their ground and not surrender for a change. Hint: they don't.


    Not just that, but if you force a child to go through pregnancy and childbirth, you better be prepared for the possible complications (ie. be able to take them to hospital etc), because pregnancy and childbirth can both kill, and the chance of that happening is far higher if the pregnant parent is a child.

    Define child. And please, find facts in history, like the age of pregnancy in the middle ages and how humanity survived your apocalyptic prophecy.


    That also makes you a hypocrite, as you condemn homosexuality because it can cause injuries

    We don't condem homosexuality, God does. Yes, He. We just pass the messenger, don't get mad at us.


    (all forms of sex can, by the way), but yet you're okay with children being raped even though you know full well that the injuries that said child can sustain could actually result in them needing surgery or even dying due to massive internal bleeding, and that's not including childbirth which can cause deadly infections to occur aswell as labor-related complications.

    What kind of sex are you watching in your atheist porn marathons? Sex is only for procreation with minimal contact. But again, define child, because a 14 yo is not the same as 6 yo.

    And that's your God's will?


    Something something mysterious ways. Yes.

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  • agnesaliencat
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Originally posted by handmaiden View Post
    First, check with the Bible before issuing such statements regarding children's "rights". Then check your local state legislature.


    If a parent signs off on it, children 14 years old (and younger in some situations) can get married. Since parents are responsible for their children's welfare, if they agree to the marriage than it must be in the best interests of the child, right? If it were not, then you would think that it wouldn't be legal, isn't that so? But it is, so how can a child's "rights" be violated by something that is perfectly legal? That just doesn't make sense.
    Forcing a child into marriage regardless of age is never in the child's best interests, as it's basically saying "I brought you into this world, and now I get to choose who you love". Is that how children's rights work? Erm no it isn't. Not just that, but if you force a child to go through pregnancy and childbirth, you better be prepared for the possible complications (ie. be able to take them to hospital etc), because pregnancy and childbirth can both kill, and the chance of that happening is far higher if the pregnant parent is a child. That also makes you a hypocrite, as you condemn homosexuality because it can cause injuries (all forms of sex can, by the way), but yet you're okay with children being raped even though you know full well that the injuries that said child can sustain could actually result in them needing surgery or even dying due to massive internal bleeding, and that's not including childbirth which can cause deadly infections to occur aswell as labor-related complications.

    And that's your God's will?

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  • Basilissa
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Originally posted by handmaiden View Post
    First, check with the Bible before issuing such statements regarding children's "rights". Then check your local state legislature.

    If a parent signs off on it, children 14 years old (and younger in some situations) can get married. Since parents are responsible for their children's welfare, if they agree to the marriage than it must be in the best interests of the child, right? If it were not, then you would think that it wouldn't be legal, isn't that so? But it is, so how can a child's "rights" be violated by something that is perfectly legal? That just doesn't make sense.
    Amen, Sister!!

    ...in 38 states, more than 167,000 children — almost all of them girls, some as young 12 — were married during that period, mostly to men 18 or older...

    Many of the children married between 2000 and 2010 were wed to adults significantly older than they were, the data shows. At least 31 percent were married to a spouse age 21 or older. (The actual number is probably higher, as some states did not provide spousal ages.) Some children were married at an age, or with a spousal age difference, that constitutes statutory rape under their state’s laws. In Idaho, for example, someone 18 or older who has sex with a child under 16 can be charged with a felony and imprisoned for up to 25 years. Yet data from Idaho — which had the highest rate of child marriage of the states that provided data — shows that some 55 girls under 16 were married to men 18 or older between 2000 and 2010.

    Many of the states that provided data included categories such as “14 and younger,” without specifying exactly how much younger some brides and grooms were. Thus, the 12-year-olds we found in Alaska, Louisiana and South Carolina’s data might not have been the youngest children wed in America between 2000 and 2010.

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    Praise !

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  • handmaiden
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Originally posted by agnesaliencat View Post
    Actually, yes it does, as forcing your child into things such as sex slavery is not just a crime (albeit one that can get you jailed for the rest of your life) but a complete and utter violation of the child's rights, as children have the right to not be raped, not be murdered, not be forced into marriage, etc.
    First, check with the Bible before issuing such statements regarding children's "rights". Then check your local state legislature.


    If a parent signs off on it, children 14 years old (and younger in some situations) can get married. Since parents are responsible for their children's welfare, if they agree to the marriage than it must be in the best interests of the child, right? If it were not, then you would think that it wouldn't be legal, isn't that so? But it is, so how can a child's "rights" be violated by something that is perfectly legal? That just doesn't make sense.

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  • agnesaliencat
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
    Don't be silly. It's not criminal if it falls under Religious Freedom.


    Actually, yes it does, as forcing your child into things such as sex slavery is not just a crime (albeit one that can get you jailed for the rest of your life) but a complete and utter violation of the child's rights, as children have the right to not be raped, not be murdered, not be forced into marriage, etc.

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Originally posted by agnesaliencat View Post
    If I had any of you for a parent and you decided to force me to do something that could cause more harm to me than good, all you would get despite demanding my full respect would be a one-way ticket to jail etc.
    Don't be silly. It's not criminal if it falls under Religious Freedom.


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  • agnesaliencat
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    If I had any of you for a parent and you decided to force me to do something that could cause more harm to me than good, all you would get despite demanding my full respect would be a one-way ticket to jail etc.

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  • handmaiden
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Here is an example of Liberals trying to take away parents' rights to deal with their children as God sees fit.

    Some people in Kentucky are trying to outlaw child marriage. They want a judge to decide if parents, (the father really) can marry off their daughter to a man who took her virginity.


    Excuse me, folks! God was crystal clear on this matter in Deuteronomy 22. The money to compensate for the loss of a girl's virginity goes to her father, not some self-serving judge.


    Parents will lose all kinds of rights if laws like the one proposed in Kentucky go through.

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  • handmaiden
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
    Women who don't care are lazy and disrespectful. They often require domestic discipline. While Trump Administration Aid Rob Porter was a foolish Mormon who believed underpants have magic powers, he at least read the Bible far enough to know the importance of disciplining a wayward wife. She left, and took his career with her. This is what uppity women do to men. This is why men are so angry today.
    Oh, Sister, you tell 'em! I get so sick over all these "family values" types who don't read and respect the Bible fully. They clearly don't understand the value that God places on the children of a marriage if they object to a child beaten honorably sold, or fairly traded.

    As for beatings-- be it the wife or the kids-- what these "family values" hypocrites don't want to accept is that God's love requires it for Salvation.


    Hebrews 12:6


    For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.


    Can I get an amen for God's Holy Truth and Perfect Love here? It's so sad that some people's idea of family excludes God and His Will for us all.

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Originally posted by Jabalí View Post
    Women are not less just because a book say it, even if that book is the Holy Bible. I'm a woman, and I believe in God, but not because of that I'm going to marry some guy and be a boring housewife the rest of my life. I want to study a carreer and by someone, is that a sin? Sorry for that, but I don't care
    Women who don't care are lazy and disrespectful. They often require domestic discipline. While Trump Administration Aid Rob Porter was a foolish Mormon who believed underpants have magic powers, he at least read the Bible far enough to know the importance of disciplining a wayward wife. She left, and took his career with her. This is what uppity women do to men. This is why men are so angry today.

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  • Gregory Mitch
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Originally posted by Mrs. Elizabeth Johnson View Post
    My final judge is my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. As a result, I will stand against the lies of the world and will follow His Words and laws, regardless of what our liebral government says. When my husband beats me, which the bleeding heart, hell-bound liberals say is horrific, I know that's how he shows his care for me and that he cherishes me by ensuring I am a good wife that gets to heaven. That's my final goal. My husband and I have been imprisoned by the liebrals once for so called abuse, and we aren't scared to stand for our Lord again. Matthew 25:31-32
    Amen, sister! Don' let the new-agers oppress your love for

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  • Mrs. Elizabeth Johnson
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Originally posted by Sup Bruh View Post
    I already told you, I am respecting the normal ones, not the crazy ones about beating, rape, or selling people. I am respecting the ones that are not doing crimes.
    My final judge is my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. As a result, I will stand against the lies of the world and will follow His Words and laws, regardless of what our liebral government says. When my husband beats me, which the bleeding heart, hell-bound liberals say is horrific, I know that's how he shows his care for me and that he cherishes me by ensuring I am a good wife that gets to heaven. That's my final goal. My husband and I have been imprisoned by the liebrals once for so called abuse, and we aren't scared to stand for our Lord again. Matthew 25:31-32

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  • Des
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Originally posted by Sup Bruh View Post
    Can someone tell me the importance of beating your children instead of actually raising them? Where's the love?
    We have to beat them because we love them and we want them to get to heaven. Nowhere in the Bible does it say "Thou art free to pick from Mine rules as though they were a buffet". We do what God says, all of what God says.

    What kind of a heartless monster are you? Trying to stop innocent children from going to heaven. Swine!

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  • Thomas Taylor
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Originally posted by Sup Bruh View Post
    I already told you, I am respecting the normal ones, not the crazy ones about beating, rape, or selling people. I am respecting the ones that are not doing crimes.


    Well aren't you the strange one? Have you been sent here to remove all the blasphemers, gays and unbelievers?
    Proverbs 22:14


    “The mouth of strange women is a deepe pit: he that is abhorred of the Lord shall fall therein.”

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

    Originally posted by Sup Bruh View Post
    I already told you, I am respecting the normal ones, not the crazy ones about beating, rape, or selling people. I am respecting the ones that are not doing crimes.
    Cherrypicking God's Holy Word is pure blasphemy. Enjoy hell.

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