[JabalÃ]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

God wrote the bible, so now you are calling Him a liar. Why do you hate Jesus?

Ok, decide, are we talking about God or Jesus?

And I'm not calling him a liar, bible was wrote by men inspired by God, not by God itself. Women are not less just because a book say it, even if that book is the Holy Bible. I'm a woman, and I believe in God, but not because of that I'm going to marry some guy and be a boring housewife the rest of my life. I want to study a carreer and by someone, is that a sin? Sorry for that, but I don't care

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

because bible says a lot of bad things about women which are not true.

God wrote the bible, so now you are calling Him a liar. Why do you hate Jesus?

[JabalÃ]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

How do you think anyone knows about God except from reading His Word, the Holy Bible? Do you think a billion people made it all up spontaneously and without differences? That's silly! Why, if it weren't for the Holy Bible, do you really think you and I and countless others across this great earth would be worshiping the LORD? It is only through the Holy Bible, "between paper and ink," that we know the identity of our Creator! It is only through the Holy Bible that we know what our Creator wants! Why do you dismiss it so easily? What are you relying on otherwise to tell you right from wrong?

Maybe bible is just a guide to have our own idea and relationship with God, we don't have to understand the book literally but the idea of it, and we must understand by ourselves what is wrong and what is right

You know, I see your "awards", and the one which said you "know your place" worry me, because bible says a lot of bad things about women which are not true. Is your moment to think by yourself and make another people, men included, to respect you, leave the bible by side and start using your own inteligence

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

I'm not going to slave or beat my future children just because a book tell me that, because the Bible is just that, a book. God is not between paper and ink, God is in us, in our hearts and in the air, he's with you, with me, with the people who suffers everyday

How do you think anyone knows about God except from reading His Word, the Holy Bible? Do you think a billion people made it all up spontaneously and without differences? That's silly! Why, if it weren't for the Holy Bible, do you really think you and I and countless others across this great earth would be worshiping the LORD? It is only through the Holy Bible, "between paper and ink," that we know the identity of our Creator! It is only through the Holy Bible that we know what our Creator wants! Why do you dismiss it so easily? What are you relying on otherwise to tell you right from wrong?

[JabalÃ]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

Uh, what exactly do you mean "in the future"? I already have 5 Children, 3 boys and 2 others.

1st Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

As for the children, considering your love for pedophiles, I think my children would rather be beaten with a 2X4 than be left alone with you.

"Others"? Gosh, I see you love your daughters. The word is girls

And I don't love pedophiles, because the man I love the most is Michael Jackson, who's not a pedo, unless Bible say other thing, because whatever is in that book must be truth for you ¬¬

[JabalÃ]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

Yes, especially when we're talking about children's safety! What is more safe for a child, to have food and water and shelter for a day, or to have eternal security for ever and ever? A day, a year, 40 years is a drop in the bucket compared to eternity. ETERNITY! If you believe in God, if you believe in Jesus, surely you know that one day is but nothing in comparison to an eternity for a soul. This United Nations so-called "rights" is not about children's safety, it's about teaching children to reject Christ's Saving Gift. Why would you want to support that?



But it's not the same, dear. The Holy Bible is the Word of God. This so-called child's rights thing is not. It was written by man, and man is sinful. He can never meet God's standards of Moral Excellence.

Sin, sin, sin, do you know another word? A child is a person like you and me, and if we want a future for our boys and girls we need to threat them like they deserve, and not in eternity but NOW, because the future starts now

I'm not going to slave or beat my future children just because a book tell me that, because the Bible is just that, a book. God is not between paper and ink, God is in us, in our hearts and in the air, he's with you, with me, with the people who suffers everyday, and I'm tired to see people who do horrible thinks just because they think God says is ok. God gives us inteligence, and if we don't valorate a so special gift then that is a real sin

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

Tell me something with a hand in the heart.....

Have you thought by yourself anytime instead of just repeat parts of the bible? I put that link because of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_rights#Types_of_rights

Fanatics like you are condemning this world. You were a child once and your parents give you love and respect, sorry if you don't think like that, but children are people too, even if you hate it

Would you quit posting that link. I've already answered you with whats wrong with it.

How exactly are we "condemning the world"? I was spanked as a child, my parents were spanked and my grandparents were spanked. My grandfather was actually beaten (legally) by his boss.

The worlds only been going to pot since all of this "don't spank the little darlings" garbage was started by Mr. Spock.

[Prayer Warrior]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

Even when we're talking about children safety?

Especially when we're talking about children's safety! Why is it that people would invoke God for trivial things, but then when it comes to important things, such as our children, we would rely on fallible human beings?

I want the highest standard of safety and well being for our children, and it doesn't get any higher than God.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

Even when we're talking about children safety?

Yes, especially when we're talking about children's safety! What is more safe for a child, to have food and water and shelter for a day, or to have eternal security for ever and ever? A day, a year, 40 years is a drop in the bucket compared to eternity. ETERNITY! If you believe in God, if you believe in Jesus, surely you know that one day is but nothing in comparison to an eternity for a soul. This United Nations so-called "rights" is not about children's safety, it's about teaching children to reject Christ's Saving Gift. Why would you want to support that?

And by the way, you read the bible and just because you read something in it you think is ok and repeat it, is exactly the same, that's even in the top comment here, how hypocrit

But it's not the same, dear. The Holy Bible is the Word of God. This so-called child's rights thing is not. It was written by man, and man is sinful. He can never meet God's standards of Moral Excellence.

[JabalÃ]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

Is this some kind of United Nations / New World Order edict or something?

Look, just because you read something, it doesn't make it true or good.

Even when we're talking about children safety?

And by the way, you read the bible and just because you read something in it you think is ok and repeat it, is exactly the same, that's even in the top comment here, how hypocrit

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

Please read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_rights

Is this some kind of United Nations / New World Order edict or something?

Look, just because you read something, it doesn't make it true or good.

[JabalÃ]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

Tell me something with a hand in the heart.....

Have you thought by yourself anytime instead of just repeat parts of the bible? I put that link because of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_rights#Types_of_rights

Fanatics like you are condemning this world. You were a child once and your parents give you love and respect, sorry if you don't think like that, but children are people too, even if you hate it

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

Please read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_rights

Why would a Christian care what the UN has to say about anything? I don't usually open links by Unsaved Trash, and Wikipedia is nothing but liebral propaganda, but okay, I'll play along....

Wow, look at the first sentence

As minors by law children do not have autonomy or the right to make decisions on their own for themselves in any known jurisdiction of the world.

So what exactly are you whining about?

Oh, and here we go. Hey, guess why children are children.... Because they're children! They don't have the mental capacity to take care of themselves!

Some believe that this state of affairs gives children insufficient control over their own lives and causes them to be vulnerable

Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

resulting in child poverty

Seriously? Hey, guess which children suffer from "child poverty" THE ONES WITH POOR PARENTS! Why do you liebrals go on and on about "child poverty" and somehow think that their parents are just hoarding the money away from them?

Matthew 26:11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

Researchers have identified children as needing to be recognized as participants in society

Unless a child is working they are not participating in society. Sitting around drinking red bull and playing video games is not "participating in society".

2 Kings 2:23-24 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them

Yeah, really sounds like God considers them "important members of society".

Did you bother to read this part?

Opposition

The opposition to children's rights far outdates any current trend in society, with recorded statements against the rights of children dating to the 13th century and earlier.[28] Opponents to children's rights believe that young people need to be protected from the adultcentric world, including the decisions and responsibilities of that world.[29] In the dominate adult society, childhood is idealized as a time of innocence, a time free of responsibility and conflict, and a time dominated by play.[30] The majority of opposition stems from concerns related to national sovereignty, states' rights, the parent-child relationship.[31] Financial constraints and the "undercurrent of traditional values in opposition to children's rights" are cited, as well.[32] The concept of children's rights has received little attention in the United States.[33]

Okay, fess up before the DoF tracks you down, how old are you really.

[JabalÃ]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

People are born into wickedness Psalm 58:3 It is this sense of entitlement that is destroying America. Instead of saying "children deserve to play", why don't you ask what children have done to EARN their playtime?

Better yet, why don't you evaluate whether or not playing is really in their best interests? Instead of playing, they could be building a good work ethic, and helping our economy at the same time. In addition to that, God has put in many rules to ensure slaves are treated fairly, (eg. You can't gouge their eyes out, you can't kill them). I bet slaves are treated more fairly than Obama treats the working class.

Who are you to say what children deserve, or what is good for them? We just have to trust that God knows what's best. I'll trust that God is the measure all all things rather than putting my faith in human beings.

Please read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_rights

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Children are property that can be beat, sold, and traded! Like cattle!

Poor children, they don't deserve that! Come on people, you're better than this, children must be in school, playing with another children or in home with their family, they deserve a good life, and being slaves is NOT a good life, what kind of parents will you be in the future?

Uh, what exactly do you mean "in the future"? I already have 5 Children, 3 boys and 2 others.

1st Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

As for the children, considering your love for pedophiles, I think my children would rather be beaten with a 2X4 than be left alone with you.