[Brother J.H.]

Re: A proposed new "Good Person Test", the childrens version

Okay then, how do YOU explain "sin not unto death"

Rev. 21:8: But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.



These are promised us IF WE BELIEVE AND STAY ON THE LORD'S PATH.

No one is assured of salvation until death. We maintain our free will.

We Southern Baptists ARE, though. We read and get ALL of our information FROM the THE HOLY KJV BIBLE. The Bible tells us that he who should believe in Jesus will never die. YOU and the other MAry worshipped don't believe in Jesus. You believe in Mary and the saints.

Isn't pride one of the seven deadly sins?

There is NO MENTION in the Bible of "7 deadly sins". That is something the Mary-worshipping pope made up.

Okay...and if I leave the Catholic Church, hell is where I'll be headed.

Well if being with Jesus is your idea of Hell then that sure is where you'll be going. But once you give up your Mary-worship and become a Baptist you won't feel that way anymore. You'll be filled with the Holy Spirit and WANT to be with him.

Context, man. It's all about the context (and you take plenty of verses out of context).

I had to quote this just for the heck of it. A Mary-worshipping papist telling US that WE are taking verses out of context? Oh Lord I think I may have just pissed my pants from laughing so hard.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Okay then, how do YOU explain "sin not unto death"

Sin not requiring execution, the way idolatry and sodomizing altar boys does.

These are promised us IF WE BELIEVE AND STAY ON THE LORD'S PATH.

No one is assured of salvation until death. We maintain our free will.

Exactly. When will you GET on the Lord's Path? It's not too late yet!

You could still give up your Mary-worship and turn to Jesus!

Isn't pride one of the seven deadly sins?

Could you show me where these "seven deadly sins" are listed in the Bible?

Thanks.

Okay...and if I leave the Catholic Church, hell is where I'll be headed.

Only because you have made it clear that you only intend to leave the Catholic Cult by dying.

Context, man. It's all about the context (and you take plenty of verses out of context).

And you just make things up to suit you.

Please show us where something is taken out of context, and put it back in. Casting out the same criticism without ever providing any evidence simply demonstrates your weak grasp of the Bible.

[Father Thomas Martin]

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How did you get all of that from one verse mentioning sin not unto death (the correct (i.e., KJV) terminology)? For your theology about venial sins, cite book, chapter, and verse, not the made-up doctrines of Rome. If you think that it's just a venial sin for a kid to tell a little white lie to get out of trouble, then take a peek at this:

Okay then, how do YOU explain "sin not unto death"

Rev. 21:8: But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

1 John 5:13: These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Leave it to the papists to call it a sin to rest on the promises in the Bible.

These are promised us IF WE BELIEVE AND STAY ON THE LORD'S PATH.

No one is assured of salvation until death. We maintain our free will.

I've never said that I have not sinned. Before I was saved, I sinned. Now that I am saved, however, these verses apply:

1 John 3:6: Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

1 John 5:18: We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Again, you redefine the definition of sin to make you incapable!

Isn't pride one of the seven deadly sins?

Who says that we don't love? We love people with enough Christian love to warn them away from hell. How loving would it be to let people go on their merry way to eternal damnation, without making an effort to save them? If that's what you call love, then I want no part of your sick and twisted Romanist version of "love."

Okay...and if I leave the Catholic Church, hell is where I'll be headed.

And I suggest that you modify your hellish doctrines.

P.S. See how I've refuted you out of 1 John, the very book that you've quoted against us? Pwned by your own arguments, Mary-hailer.

Context, man. It's all about the context (and you take plenty of verses out of context).

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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1 John 5:17

"All wrongdoing in sin, but there is sin that is not mortal."

Most of the sins you listed in the first two posts are called venial sins. While venial sins displease God, they do not take away God's grace or make the sinner deserving of hell.

How did you get all of that from one verse mentioning sin not unto death (the correct (i.e., KJV) terminology)? For your theology about venial sins, cite book, chapter, and verse, not the made-up doctrines of Rome. If you think that it's just a venial sin for a kid to tell a little white lie to get out of trouble, then take a peek at this:

Rev. 21:8: But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Your sin, however, is a mortal sin. We call that sin "presumption," saying you are elect and guaranteed of heaven, no matter how badly you sin in life.

1 John 5:13: These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Leave it to the papists to call it a sin to rest on the promises in the Bible.

Don't say you're incapable of sin though, that is contrary to 1 John 1:8-10:

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He who is faithful and just will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us".

I've never said that I have not sinned. Before I was saved, I sinned. Now that I am saved, however, these verses apply:

1 John 3:6: Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

1 John 5:18: We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

So, I suggest you repent and follow the advide in 1 John 4:7-8:

"Beloved, let us love one another, because love is from God; everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, for God is love."

Who says that we don't love? We love people with enough Christian love to warn them away from hell. How loving would it be to let people go on their merry way to eternal damnation, without making an effort to save them? If that's what you call love, then I want no part of your sick and twisted Romanist version of "love."

So I suggest you modify your quiz...

And I suggest that you modify your hellish doctrines.

P.S. See how I've refuted you out of 1 John, the very book that you've quoted against us? Pwned by your own arguments, Mary-hailer.

[Brother J.H.]

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Well.... in Christianity we believe a sin is a sin is a sin because that's what the BIBLE says. I don't know where you get yours from, but we get out information straight from the Bible.

[Father Thomas Martin]

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Where did you get that nonsense? The Apocrypha? LOL

If you've even read it, we get it from 1 John.

Look it up in YOUR bible!

[Brother J.H.]

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Where did you get that nonsense? The Apocrypha? LOL

[Father Thomas Martin]

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1 John 5:17

"All wrongdoing in sin, but there is sin that is not mortal."

Most of the sins you listed in the first two posts are called venial sins. While venial sins displease God, they do not take away God's grace or make the sinner deserving of hell.

Your sin, however, is a mortal sin. We call that sin "presumption," saying you are elect and guaranteed of heaven, no matter how badly you sin in life.

Don't say you're incapable of sin though, that is contrary to 1 John 1:8-10:

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He who is faithful and just will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us".

So, I suggest you repent and follow the advide in 1 John 4:7-8:

"Beloved, let us love one another, because love is from God; everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, for God is love."

So I suggest you modify your quiz...

[Dameon_ACLUtard]

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Haha very funny Picard... yea that was a clever joke. You know you should think about stand up comedy

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Technically Dracula isn't a fictional character.

Wrong. Dracula IS a fictional character, based loosely by Bram Stoker on Vlad Dracul.

Though more correctly would be calling him Vlad Dracul. So maybe I should have been Lucard, hmm?

Great, now you're trying to make yourself into a contraction of that bald guy from Star Trek TNG.

Can't you get over this bizarre obsession with fictional characters?

What's next, will you name yourself "ICan'tBelieveIt'sNotBuddha"?

How about kroD? That seems to suit.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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If by "cool" you mean "a pathetic attempt to associate oneself with an imaginary power figure", then I agree.

Good point. Once a person is saved and becomes a True Christian™, he no longer has the need to do any such thing.

[Dameon_ACLUtard]

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Actually she's blond, and very far from being a demon.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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I didn't say everyone was equal. Would you stop with the equality crap. I'm sorry but if you're little speech about any sin being as bad as any other sin is true then that's just retarded. How can stealing a cookie be as bad as raping someone? That's just messed up mate.[...]

You are quote correct! Equating stealing and rape is not helpful.

Stealing a cookie: Ex:20:15: Thou shalt not steal. A commandment - break that and you are damned for eternity! Unless you were crucified at the side of Christ, Who may forgive you.

Raping a woman: De:22:28: If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
De:22:29: Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
There is no other punishment for this.

So clearly we see that The Bible says that stealing is a heinous crime against God and man but raping is neither here nor there and is, in fact, a way to get a wife for 50 Shekels.

Praise!

PS Is that some horrible Ginger Demon clinging to your back in your avatar? Landover can rid people of demons. (Ginger ones cost more.)

[Dameon_ACLUtard]

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Technically Dracula isn't a fictional character. Though more correctly would be calling him Vlad Dracul. So maybe I should have been Lucard, hmm?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Alucard just sounds cool, that and the concept goes with the spelling of my forename.

If by "cool" you mean "a pathetic attempt to associate oneself with an imaginary power figure", then I agree.

Yes, a real woman. I'm sure one day you'll come across one too.

That would be a waste of my seed and the sin of Onan.