[John Scopes]

Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher!

I actually cannot find suitable Biblical sources for what I'm suggesting. Though, it must be pointed out that Biblical narrative is incompatible with most branches of mainstream science when taken literally. Though, it must be realized, the word million didn't enter the English language until the 13th century, and people had few abilities to conceive of amounts of that magnitude or greater at the time Biblical narrative was written.

Take the notion of the age of the Earth and Universe. Despite the suggestion that the Bible makes of the age being less than 10,000 years, a number of different sources would suggest that its actually much older.

It is inspiring to see you sir. My research here primarily centers around an alleged lack of genetic diversity among evangelical Christians, and the subsequent expression of deleterious recessive genes that results from that.

I am specifically looking at genetic transmission to offspring passed from father to daughter after her birth, and from brother to sister.

I do not factor in the more common first cousin relationships that occur within this particular branch of Christianity. I am of course not here to condemn, merely to further knowledge within evolutionary biology.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Look Nietzsche, what's the point of the Earth being older than 6,000 years? Does it really matter to you? God says it is and that is sufficient.

If you keep babbling on with your vague passive aggressive doubts, you, and anyone who listens to you, will end up burning in Hell.

Now, I'm as compassionate as the next True Christian(tm) and I've no great desire to look down from Heaven and see your skin being peeled in a vat of Brimstone, so, wouldn't it be easier just to accept 6000 years?

[F. Nietzsche]

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My goodness! This thread has certainly attracted quite an interesting bunch of posters! Fisherman Jake seems to be on the right track, but there also seem to be quite a few genuine Darwinist atheists posting their heresy here as well.

Those supposed scientists think all they need to do to impress people with their supposed knowledge is to metaphorically back up a dump truck full of big words and just spill them into our Godly forum.

Well friends, we all know that it takes more than "logic" and "facts" to convince a True Christian™ that he is wrong. Unless you evolutionists can provide some evidence from the KJV 1611 Bible about your "theory", I am afraid you will not find any buyers for what you are selling here on our holy board.

I actually cannot find suitable Biblical sources for what I'm suggesting. Though, it must be pointed out that Biblical narrative is incompatible with most branches of mainstream science when taken literally. Though, it must be realized, the word million didn't enter the English language until the 13th century, and people had few abilities to conceive of amounts of that magnitude or greater at the time Biblical narrative was written.

Take the notion of the age of the Earth and Universe. Despite the suggestion that the Bible makes of the age being less than 10,000 years, a number of different sources would suggest that its actually much older.

[Mordecai]

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Well friends, we all know that it takes more than "logic" and "facts" to convince a True Christian™ that he is wrong. Unless you evolutionists can provide some evidence from the KJV 1611 Bible about your "theory", I am afraid you will not find any buyers for what you are selling here on our holy board.

That's like trying to get someone to prove Hobbits don't exist by only using the book the Hobbit.

"Logic" and "facts' got man to the moon, created the atom bomb, any technological advancement mankind has made has been through "logic" and "facts".

[Professor Bessemer]

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My goodness! This thread has certainly attracted quite an interesting bunch of posters! Fisherman Jake seems to be on the right track, but there also seem to be quite a few genuine Darwinist atheists posting their heresy here as well.

Those supposed scientists think all they need to do to impress people with their supposed knowledge is to metaphorically back up a dump truck full of big words and just spill them into our Godly forum.

Well friends, we all know that it takes more than "logic" and "facts" to convince a True Christian™ that he is wrong. Unless you evolutionists can provide some evidence from the KJV 1611 Bible about your "theory", I am afraid you will not find any buyers for what you are selling here on our holy board.

[F. Nietzsche]

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We will not tolerate racism here. Do not try to pull one over on us. If we are to believe that humans evolved from some common ancestor then logic dictates that said intermediary species should still exist. If a chimp was good enough to survive and humans were good enough to not only survive, but dominate the earth, it stands to reason that all the creatures from this supposed common ancestor to modern day man should have been able to survive. Logically, seeing as white caucasoids are at the top of the piramid, all the other dairtier races must be those intermediate species that evolved into us.

Not necessarily true. If the timescale is adjusted from Young Earth to scientific terms, and climatic or geologic factors are weighted accordingly, such a common ancestor could in fact have gone extinct due to changes in climate and other species being more successful at filling the ecological niche they occupied. Population drift between the Equatorial African rainforest and the Great Rift valley caused the latter to develop bipedalism, and eventually create hominids proper, since there were different evolutionary and ecological pressures than was otherwise present. The population remaining in the tropics, however, faced a different set of pressures. Since the species as it originally stood was not as effective at filling ecological niches as their genetic descendents, they would have been driven into extinction.

From left to right we have a hairy a-rab, a white man, a little old nigress, a chinkoid, a hairy asiatic-persian kung fu master, a big nigra buck and finally a jew. It's as plain as day that you secular scientist are calling the cursed people sub human animals. Your bigotry repulses me. It infuriates me.



Your darwinista bigotry will not be tolerated!!! REPENT!!!

Actually, those are just renditions of hominids based off fossils. I'm not calling you or anyone else subhuman, since that would imply you aren't human, which is patently false.

[Remy Lebeau]

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blah blah blah baseless theories that I'll pretend are fact because some guy who deemed himself an "expert" said so and put it in a book blah blah blah

We will not tolerate racism here. Do not try to pull one over on us. If we are to believe that humans evolved from some common ancestor then logic dictates that said intermediary species should still exist. If a chimp was good enough to survive and humans were good enough to not only survive, but dominate the earth, it stands to reason that all the creatures from this supposed common ancestor to modern day man should have been able to survive. Logically, seeing as white caucasoids are at the top of the piramid, all the other dairtier races must be those intermediate species that evolved into us.



From left to right we have a hairy a-rab, a white man, a little old nigress, a chinkoid, a hairy asiatic-persian kung fu master, a big nigra buck and finally a jew. It's as plain as day that you secular scientist are calling the cursed people sub human animals. Your bigotry repulses me. It infuriates me.



Your darwinista bigotry will not be tolerated!!! REPENT!!!

[F. Nietzsche]

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Tell you what. I'll go ahead and bite on this bait.

1. If humans evolved from chimpanzees, why are chimpanzees still around?

   They didn't. Humans and chimpanzees share a common ancestor and are exceptionally similar genetically. This common ancestor is now extinct, however.

2. The Big Bang Theory proposes that everything in the Universe started from something called singularity which is smaller than an atom. How can you stuff everything in the universe in that? It's hard enough to stuff four suitcases in the trunk of your car!

   That rather depends on how you approach it. The singularity as it stands is simply a point at which modern physics breaks down, meaning the only way to answer that point is using some of the newer theoretical models like M-theory or supergravity. If the former were true, then it would make sense since space, time, and matter would simply be the effects of interactions between branes that form the matter and fundamental forces of our universe, with a point of interaction becoming the singularity as we percieve it in 4 dimensional space.

3. If the earth really revolves around the sun, then why when we look at the sun we can see it plainly revolving around the earth? (And if the earth was moving around the sun, wouldn't we all fly off into space?)

   Because it merely appears to be that way. In fact, due to gravitational interaction and the need for immense weight to achieve nuclear fusion as occurs in the sun, it would be impossible for the sun to orbit the Earth. As for the latter point, no, because your movement relative to the Earth is zero while at rest, despite being in motion relative to the sun and other celestial objects.

4. If women were not created from Adam's rib, why is it that men have one fewer rib than women?

   That's completely inaccurate. Read an anatomy textbook.

5. How do scientists know stars are "millions of light years away"? Have they been there and back? Do they have a tape measure that stretchs that long?

   No, but you don't need one. You can calculate the distance to some stars with parallax, whereupon you'll find there's a sort of statistical sequence involved with the overall luminosity of the star relative to distance which allows you to then calculate the distance to stars too far out for the use of parallax. You can also use redshift, which is effective to about the edge of the visible universe.

6. Scientists say all our genetic information is coded on DNA. But DNA is an acid! How can you write information in acid? You can write information on a hard drive, but not a liquid!

   Depends on what you mean by acid. DNA simply stores the replication pattern for new cells. When new ones divide, they split the strands of DNA, then transcribe it before undergoing cell division.

7. People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then?

   Evolution doesn't work like that, nor does it work over mere thousands of years for such a drastic biological change.

8. If there really are millions and millions of species, then how could have Adam named them all? Obviously, there's not that many species then! (Gen 2:18-22)

   Actually, there are. Either Adam was immensely busy or there were more species than would be conceivable in that narrative.

9. If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think?

   Bug spray and gasoline lack the enzymes, electrochemical signals, and synapses found in the human brain.

10. Einstein said that if you approach the speed of light, time slows down. Once you hit the speed of light, time stops. If that is so, how come light can travel from point A to point B if time is stopped for light?

    Time is relative to the observer. If I was travelling at the speed of light for a thousand years in your time, I could come back and time would have not elapsed for me at all until I return to non-relativistic velocities. Time doesn't pass for the photon travelling at those speeds, but it continues to pass for objects moving at speeds significantly less than the speed of light.

[Jared H. Price]

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Hello, Virgin. My name is Captain James T. Kirk, but you can call me Jim. I have the best damned science officer in the fleet under me, and you can bet he's drilled me with his knowledge over and over again. If you would like, you can come to my quarters where I can help educate you in all sorts of sciences. Perhaps you can even help me with the Captain's Log in return. I'm sure you would be very good at that.
I have a bottle of Romulan ale chilling in the replicator and am eagerly awaiting your reply.

Why do you have as a name and avatar the creation of the godless, pro-race mixing heathen Gene Roddenberry. That Satanic atheistic trash is burning in the pits of hell and if you don't want to join him being sodomized by demons, I suggest you stay away from his heretical creations like "Star Trek". It is no less dangerous than harry potter books or rock music. Just look at what ROTTENberry said about the church:

"I condemn false prophets, I condemn the effort to take away the power of rational decision, to drain people of their free will--and a hell of a lot of money in the bargain. Religions vary in their degree of idiocy, but I reject them all. For most people, religion is nothing more than a substitute for a malfunctioning brain."

"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes."

[Fisherman Jake]

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Your chief document also references genital manipulation

Genesis 24:2-9 (King James Version)
2 And Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house, that ruled over all that he had, Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh:



This certainly does not pertain to natural selection, however, a cultural anthropologist might find it interesting. Thank you for your input sir.

A cultist anthropo-what? Does anyone understand a thing monkey-boy is saying?

[John Scopes]

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Satan has you by the unmentionables boy and he's dragging you to the pits of hell. Get on your knees and let Jesus fill you! Glory!

Your chief document also references genital manipulation

Genesis 24:2-9 (King James Version)
2 And Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house, that ruled over all that he had, Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh:



This certainly does not pertain to natural selection, however, a cultural anthropologist might find it interesting. Thank you for your input sir.

[Fisherman Jake]

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No, nature can be quite persistent in genetic mutations. Evetually they do terminate.

Apparently, stupidity isn't one of the terminating ones.

The fossil record is well established, however, I am a biologist and will not adress this reality.

Yet again, you're a textbook case of atheism. Ignore what you can't disprove. The Bible's right and you know it. Your pride and intellectualism are keeping you from the truth! Satan has you by the unmentionables boy and he's dragging you to the pits of hell. Get on your knees and let Jesus fill you! Glory!

[John Scopes]

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I bet you think you sound smart, huh. Go read 2nd Timothy 3.

I believe this is the allegorical references to which you refer from the seemingly preferred document here.

2 Timothy 3 (King James Version)
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.
10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Anthropologically, this is certainly interesting. This document was translated directly from Greek, a civilization we have previoulsy addressed here.

And I don't think you understood my statement. Homosexurality would happen once, then be gotten rid of because no one passed it on. That's how it works right?

No, nature can be quite persistent in genetic mutations. Evetually they do terminate.

Also, the earth is not billions of years old. Check out this link on young earth creationism.

The fossil record is well established, however, I am a biologist and will not adress this reality.

[Fisherman Jake]

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I apologize if you think I was ignoring your question, it simply has no relevance in natural selection.

Evolution is a constantly changing and progressive series of events. Nature is constantly seeking to improve through the very slow process of natural selection. There will certainly be branches that have no future, hence the continual reappearances of homosexuals. It could well take millions of years of evolution for this particular genetic trait to be purged. The universe is billions of years old, it can patiently await this inevitable end.

I bet you think you sound smart, huh. Go read 2nd Timothy 3.

And I don't think you understood my statement. Homosexurality would happen once, then be gotten rid of because no one passed it on. That's how it works right?

Also, the earth is not billions of years old. Check out this link on young earth creationism.

[John Scopes]

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And you totally ignored my question...or didn't realize I was asking one. Typical atheist.


If homosexurality is in DNA and DNA is passed along when men are promiscuious with women, but homosexurals are promiscious with men, then homosexurality can't be in DNA.

Now, that means that there are two options. Either homosexurality doesn't exist, or DNA doesn't exist. We know homosexurality exists. THEREFORE, DNA doesn't exist!

(Sorry for all that logicalness...I'm humoring him for the sake of argument)

That's proof number two. At this point your pride is keeping you from seeing the truth...or you're a total idiot who WANTS to burn in Hell.

I apologize if you think I was ignoring your question, it simply has no relevance in natural selection.

Evolution is a constantly changing and progressive series of events. Nature is constantly seeking to improve through the very slow process of natural selection. There will certainly be branches that have no future, hence the continual reappearances of homosexuals. It could well take millions of years of evolution for this particular genetic trait to be purged. The universe is billions of years old, it can patiently await this inevitable end.