[Proud Mary (worshiper)]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

It's good to know you follow the Bible. What do you think of Mary when you read this quote...

1st Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

Actually I don't think of Mary at all when I read that. Mary is taught to Catholics as a model of Christian obediance. She is a role model. She was obedient to God's will and supported her son.

[Deaner]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

Praying to the statue itself. Praying to a peice of ceramic is blasphemous. No Catholic would ever do that. Its one of the ten comandments. We pray to what the statue represents. If it is a statue of Jesus we are praying to Jesus. If it is a statue of Mary we are praying to Mary asking her to pray for us to God.

Exodus 20:4 (King James Version)

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

[Deaner]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

Actually I don't think of Mary at all when I read that. Mary is taught to Catholics as a model of Christian obediance. She is a role model. She was obedient to God's will and supported her son.

Why are you asking her for advice when the Bible forbids a woman to teach?

[Proud Mary (worshiper)]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

You seem to be proud of your lack of faith in our Lord Jesus. True Christians™ pray directly to Him, we don't need idols to help us "focus".

You also need to turn on your spell checker.

I suffer from no lack of faith in God or Jesus. Tell me do you have a crucifx any where in your house or Church? What purpose does it serve. So Jesus is an idol you say? Now who is the heretic? Please, don't say a word about my spelling. I noticed in several posts the words "Catholics" or "Catholic" spelled Catylicks, Cathy-olicks ect.

[Proud Mary (worshiper)]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

Why are you asking her for advice when the Bible forbids a woman to teach?

Because she teaches only what the Lord taught her. She is teaching less than spreading God's word.
Answer this if you can, why do you take those Bible quotes literally in the 21st century. You can't tell me you still hold that belief because you follow every thing in the Bible. If you did you would still wear robes like Jesus and gird your loins, ride asses and camels and use oil lanterns. The Bible was written in a time when that idea was common but it is due only to the time period. Why would God have a problem with women teaching?

[Proud Mary (worshiper)]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

Exodus 20:4 (King James Version)

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Yes, that is the verse explaining why Catholics cannot pray to statues. Why do you use the KJV by the way? Do you not desire to read from the seven books excluded by Protestants? Does your soul not hunger for the Words of God kept hidden form you?

[Deaner]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

Answer this if you can, why do you take those Bible quotes literally in the 21st century.

Where in the Bible does it tell us to do otherwise? If somebody came up to me and said the Bible says this but really means this should I believe them? Or should I believe what's written on the page?

Why would God have a problem with women teaching?

Are you questioning God now?

[SayvedByTheLord]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

No, the Catholics added seven books that supported their perverted boy diddling beliefs.

Good Grief did you actually read what I wrote? Mary is not a middleman and I do speak directly to Jesus and God. Praying to Mary would be the same thing as me asking you to pray for me. (Which I wouldn't do) I refuse to follow the KJV by the way. Protestants removed seven books. I prefer the full unadulterated word of God.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

Why would God have a problem with women teaching?

Why can't women be priests? Asked and answered.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

Good Grief did you actually read what I wrote? Mary is not a middleman and I do speak directly to Jesus and God. Praying to Mary would be the same thing as me asking you to pray for me. (Which I wouldn't do) I refuse to follow the KJV by the way. Protestants removed seven books. I prefer the full unadulterated word of God.

So, you pray to Mary and ask her to pray for you, instead of praying to Jesus directly (as the Bible clearly directs). But you do not see her as a middleman and you DO pray directly to Him.

Which is it? Do you pray to Mary, a dead woman awaiting resurrection at Judgment and unable to hear you, as your Pope Nazinger directs, or do you do what God tells you do to and pray only to Him?

You know, as it says in the Bible, right here:

1 Timothy 2

1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Where does that say you can pray to Mary as mediatrix? Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

I suffer from no lack of faith in God or Jesus. Tell me do you have a crucifx any where in your house or Church? What purpose does it serve. So Jesus is an idol you say? Now who is the heretic?

Of course not. We're Christians. We do not have idols of Jesus or of Mary of of Saint Jerome or Saint Fransissy or any of your other pagan pantheon.

Are you so clueless as not to realize that only Catholics parade about celebrating the torture of Jesus in miniature statue form?

And YOU are still the heretic.

Please, don't say a word about my spelling. I noticed in several posts the words "Catholics" or "Catholic" spelled Catylicks, Cathy-olicks ect.

I believe you mean "etc.", which is short for "et cetera". I thought you Cathoholics were more familiar with the Latin.

Nobody here is unintentionally misspelling "Catholic" as "Cathylick" or "Catlicker" or "Pagan". We all know how to spell it correctly:

"I'm responding to a Catholic. S-A-T-A-N-I-S-T, Catholic."

[Proud Mary (worshiper)]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

No, the Catholics added seven books that supported their perverted boy diddling beliefs.

I have read those seven books and I have never found anything justifying that. Please, the idea that all Priests are Pedophiles is a stereotype. There are those in every religion and every Christian denomination. Please don't let a few bad apples spoil the bunch for you.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

I have read those seven books and I have never found anything justifying that. Please, the idea that all Priests are Pedophiles is a stereotype. There are those in every religion and every Christian denomination. Please don't let a few bad apples spoil the bunch for you.

According to your ridiculous religion, the Chief Nazi Ratsinger is infallible in matters of the church, and he passes his infallibility down to the pedophiles, of which 82% of priests admit to being.

That doesn't say much about your apple barrel. And the horrid nonsense about drinking Jesus' blood with a cracker and it's supposed to turn to his skin in your mouth? HELLO! Get thee behind me, SATAN!

and read this: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0074/0074_01.asp

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

Proud Mary:

It just seems like such a favor-grubbing thing to do, running alonside these "saints", trying to catch their attention in order to beg them for special help.

If you see your Virgin Mary and the saints as some sort of celebrity group, don't you think they're rather busy with their lofty lifestyle?

Grow up, stand up, and take your prayers directly to God! Don't trust an underling like Mary to DO YOUR WORK FOR YOU.

[Proud Mary (worshiper)]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

According to your ridiculous religion, the Chief Nazi Ratsinger is infallible in matters of the church, and he passes his infallibility down to the pedophiles, of which 82% of priests admit to being.

That doesn't say much about your apple barrel. And the horrid nonsense about drinking Jesus' blood with a cracker and it's supposed to turn to his skin in your mouth? HELLO! Get thee behind me, SATAN!

82% Bull. Get your facts straight. Ok, do you follow the Bible to the letter? Read John 6:51-57. That is where it says in no uncertain terms to eat his flesh and drink his bllod. To say differently would be to deny the Bible.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Pastor Deacon Fred on Mary Worshiping Papists

Answer this if you can, why do you take those Bible quotes literally in the 21st century. You can't tell me you still hold that belief because you follow every thing in the Bible. If you did you would still wear robes like Jesus and gird your loins, ride asses and camels and use oil lanterns. The Bible was written in a time when that idea was common but it is due only to the time period. Why would God have a problem with women teaching?

Where does the Bible say we must wear robes and ride camels?

It does say we shall not forbid our priests to marry. Do Catholics do that?

It does say we shall only pray to God/Jesus. Do Catholics do that?

It does say we shall not allow sodomites and witches and adulterers to live. Do Catholics also promote stoning?

Or do you just ignore the word of God for your traditions?

You are like the Pharisees:

Mark 7

6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.