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  • OnYourKnees
    On Extended Furlough
    True Christian™
    • Nov 2006
    • 4729

    #31
    Re: Catholic

    Originally posted by HolySong View Post
    Do you ask for intercession from others? It is not condemned by Landover Baptist since there is a prayer forum.

    James 5
    16Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, so that you may be healed. The prayer of the righteous is powerful and effective.


    Just like you would ask for prayers from a friend. Catholics ask Mary and the Saints to pray for us.

    HolySong
    Um, that's a neat idea and all, but the Bible makes it crystal clear that dead people is dead people. All the dead will be resurrected at Judgment Day.

    The First Resurrection will be that of the faithful, to everlasting life and glory. The Second Resurrection will be that of everyone else, to everlasting punishment in Hell.

    Mary's dead. All the "saints" -- which were all declared so by Catholic Popes, not by God -- are dead. They can't hear you, they can't talk to God. They're DEAD until they are resurrected in body. Don't believe me? LOOK IT UP.

    Why do you think the Catholic Church forbade cremation for hundreds of years? They were afraid God wouldn't be able to put Humpty Dumpty together again, if only ashes were left. (I guess they thought the Creator of the Universe couldn't figure out how to do it?)

    DEAD PEOPLE CAN'T HELP YOU.

    Meanwhile, you light candles before statues of Mary, and kiss the statue of Mary, and pray before it. Or the stained glass window of Saint Whatever (pick a day, there's a saint for it). That's called idolatry, and is expressly forbidden by God.

    Prayer requestors aren't asking for a mediator. They're asking others to also demonstrate to God through their faith that they support the individual needing assistance. They're also asking live people to help.

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    • Brother Temperance
      Senior Usher
      True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
      A very nice young man
      True Christian™
      • Sep 2006
      • 15621

      #32
      Re: Catholic

      Originally posted by The Catholic View Post
      Okay just to get you to see at least a little open mindedness...

      Imagine if you can, you going to Hell when you die.
      When you get there you look up at heaven and ask God why you have been sent there. I mean you have followed the Bible to it's exact word, you practice every single good deed that has ever existed, you are so faithful you would have killed yourself if God asked you too. God replies, "You are all wrong. I did not send Jesus to the earth, he was just some fanatic that got out of hand. You have followed a false prophet. All you Catholics, Mormons, Baptists, and Lutherans were wrong. The bible is hoax. It was written by people who were in desperation. You have all followed false religions. The Judaic culture is the only real religon. You have been exposed and they tried to convert you, but you turned them away and now you will pay the price. Now you will burn in Hell for eternity."

      Imagine this. Now I know you will all instanly deny this as a thing that would never ever happen. I mean your faith in God and Jesus is amazing (I'll give you that), but if you deem that every other person who is not of your religon will go to hell then is it so wrong for others to think that you will have an equal fate?

      I'm not trying to convert you, I'm just saying that you should really keep the fact in your mind that other people are human beings too. We all have emotions and faiths.

      Think about it.
      There's a difference. We're right and they're wrong. There are people out there who think that the Holocaust never happened, that the moon landings were a hoax, Elvis lives and that rocks turned into monkey soup. Do you seriously think all these wacko ideas should have equal time with the Truth? Then why should false cults be given as much respect as the One True Faith?
      Originally posted by HolyMong
      Do you ask for intercession from others? It is not condemned by Landover Baptist since there is a prayer forum.

      James 5
      16Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, so that you may be healed. The prayer of the righteous is powerful and effective.


      Just like you would ask for prayers from a friend. Catholics ask Mary and the Saints to pray for us.
      Jesus makes it very clear that we are not to venerate His mother.
      Luke 11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
      28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

      When a silly woman tried to claim that Mary was blessed, Jesus explicitly smacked her down, and made it clear that only True Christians™ are blessed. He did not say we are as blessed as Mary, or equally blessed, he said "rather" - implying a preference for us over Mary. The Bible makes it very clear that I, Brother Temperance, am more blessed than Mary. Does that mean you should build a statue of me, and bow down to it, and light candles for me? No, of course not, that'd be insane blasphemy. So why do it in front of some silly tart whose greatest achievement in life consisted of getting herself knocked up?
      O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



      God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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      • Spader
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
        • Jan 2007
        • 22

        #33
        Re: Catholic

        It's also a well known fact that Catholicism is based largely on Babylonian Paganism combined with Christianity. Hmmm. I always thought that if something like that was combined the universe will explode. Oh wait! It's going to after Jesus comes back! Ya!

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        • Brother V
          True Christian™ Nitric Oxide
          True Christian™
          • Sep 2006
          • 3481

          #34
          Re: Catholic

          Originally posted by HolySong View Post
          That is incorrect and NOT the teachings of the Catholic Church.

          Peace be with you friend in Christ.

          HolySong
          To the catholic encyclopedia cave batman!!!

          transsubstantiation

          When, therefore, He Who is All Truth and All Power said of the bread: "This is my body", the bread became, through the utterance of these words, the Body of Christ; consequently, on the completion of the sentence the substance of bread was no longer present, but the Body of Christ under the outward appearance of bread. Hence the bread must have become the Body of Christ, i.e. the former must have been converted into the latter.
          Because you know, Jesus NEVER spoke in parables.

          Oh wait... yeah he did.

          His disciples asked him why he did that once, do you know what he said?

          So dumb people would go to hell (basically)

          Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

          12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

          13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?


          Friend, Jesus LIKES to send people to hell. Are you one of them?


          (Here, have some more reading on the Eucharist)


          Now, lets look at one of the reasons for excommunication from the cathylick church.

          Desecration of the Eucharist (canon 1367)

          Did you know that just saying it's SYMBOLIC and not really Jesus meat, is desecration?

          Guess what, you should be excommunicated.

          what is excommunication by the CC

          Friend, you should just give up on your veneration of bread and wine, and statues and foreskins, and just start worshipping HIM!

          YIC
          V
          Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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          • Magus
            Unsaved trash
             
            • Jan 2007
            • 45

            #35
            Re: Catholic

            It's also a well known fact that Catholicism is based largely on Babylonian Paganism combined with Christianity. Hmmm. I always thought that if something like that was combined the universe will explode. Oh wait! It's going to after Jesus comes back! Ya!
            I've heard that argument before, but can you provide some sort of evidence (non-biased, if able) to backup that claim. The only time I've been given reference was from a very very biased source, but whateve

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            • Brother Temperance
              Senior Usher
              True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
              A very nice young man
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2006
              • 15621

              #36
              Re: Catholic

              Originally posted by Magus View Post
              I've heard that argument before, but can you provide some sort of evidence (non-biased, if able) to backup that claim. The only time I've been given reference was from a very very biased source, but whateve
              Here's one. There's plenty more out there. How do you define "biased"?
              O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



              God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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              • OnYourKnees
                On Extended Furlough
                True Christian™
                • Nov 2006
                • 4729

                #37
                Re: Catholic

                Originally posted by Spader View Post
                It's also a well known fact that Catholicism is based largely on Babylonian Paganism combined with Christianity. Hmmm. I always thought that if something like that was combined the universe will explode. Oh wait! It's going to after Jesus comes back! Ya!
                That WOULD explain the cannibalism thing.

                Imagine the disappointment when those pagans learned they'd not be eating BABY Jesus, just Jesus Bread!
                Last edited by OnYourKnees; 01-31-2007, 11:50 PM.

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                • The Catholic
                  Confirmed Enemy of God
                  BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8

                  #38
                  Re: Catholic

                  I'm just wondering are any of you guys racist against Africans and Jews too? Because your hate for other religons is truly incredible. I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't curse every other pagan in Rome for not believing in God. I'm also sure he didn't send every sinner in the world to hell. In fact, he hung out with the prostitutes, tax collecters, thugs, and other people of the lower class.

                  Also another note, do you know the parable of the good Samaritan?

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                  • Brother Temperance
                    Senior Usher
                    True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
                    A very nice young man
                    True Christian™
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 15621

                    #39
                    Re: Catholic

                    Originally posted by The Catholic View Post
                    I'm just wondering are any of you guys racist against Africans and Jews too? Because your hate for other religons is truly incredible.
                    We are not racist. We just recognise that the kikes killed Jesus.
                    Originally posted by The Papist
                    I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't curse every other pagan in Rome for not believing in God. I'm also sure he didn't send every sinner in the world to hell. In fact, he hung out with the prostitutes, tax collecters, thugs, and other people of the lower class.
                    I'm pretty sure you've never read the Bible.
                    Originally posted by The Idolator
                    Also another note, do you know the parable of the good Samaritan?
                    Yes.
                    O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                    God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                    • Pastor Al E Pistle
                      Christ's Cōnsiliārius
                       
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 9323

                      #40
                      Re: Catholic

                      Originally posted by The Catholic View Post
                      I'm just wondering are any of you guys racist against Africans and Jews too? Because your hate for other religons is truly incredible. I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't curse every other pagan in Rome for not believing in God.

                      You are wrong. But that's because you have no idea what the bible says.

                      1 John

                      1. Every non-Christian is liar and an antichrist. 2:22, 4:2-3
                      2. Christians are alive; non-Christians are dead. 5:12
                      3. Christians are "of God;" everyone else is wicked. 5:19
                      I'm also sure he didn't send every sinner in the world to hell. In fact, he hung out with the prostitutes, tax collecters, thugs, and other people of the lower class.

                      You are wrong again because you are a dumb mick catlick. Tax collectors, then as now, work for the king.

                      Matthew

                      Jesus says that most people will go to hell. 7:13-14


                      Also another note, do you know the parable of the good Samaritan?
                      Do you know the story of the death cookie?
                      Emeritus Professor of the Christ Jesus Chair of Theology at Landover Baptist University.
                      "God loves you. Let us arrange for you to meet Him".
                      Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth.--Psalms 58:6


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                      • Rev. Dr. Davidson
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                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1439

                        #41
                        Re: Catholic

                        Originally posted by Magus View Post
                        I've heard that argument before, but can you provide some sort of evidence (non-biased, if able) to backup that claim. The only time I've been given reference was from a very very biased source, but whateve
                        There have been several examples of something like this. Of course, by the time the Council of Nicea came about Babylon had been buried in the sand for wuite a while. Babylon may have contributed, but Constantine used pagan holidays, mostly from Gaul, to remake as Christian holidays. Also those pagan holidays corresponded with the lunar calendar. Yes..... You are correct.... Goddess worship is what brought about modern holidays, with the help of cathylicks and emperor Constantine.
                        "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservant's do."
                        (Leviticus 21:6-7)

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                        • Rev. Dr. Davidson
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                          #42
                          Re: Catholic

                          Originally posted by The Catholic View Post
                          I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't curse every other pagan in Rome for not believing in God.
                          Jesus never went to Rome, but He probably would have. We know for a fact, from scripture, that His Father surely would.
                          Last edited by OnYourKnees; 02-01-2007, 04:57 AM. Reason: Fixed html
                          "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservant's do."
                          (Leviticus 21:6-7)

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                          • Peacekeeper
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 115

                            #43
                            Re: Catholic

                            Originally posted by OnYourKnees View Post
                            Um, that's a neat idea and all, but the Bible makes it crystal clear that dead people is dead people. All the dead will be resurrected at Judgment Day.

                            The First Resurrection will be that of the faithful, to everlasting life and glory. The Second Resurrection will be that of everyone else, to everlasting punishment in Hell.

                            Mary's dead. All the "saints" -- which were all declared so by Catholic Popes, not by God -- are dead. They can't hear you, they can't talk to God. They're DEAD until they are resurrected in body. Don't believe me? LOOK IT UP.

                            Why do you think the Catholic Church forbade cremation for hundreds of years? They were afraid God wouldn't be able to put Humpty Dumpty together again, if only ashes were left. (I guess they thought the Creator of the Universe couldn't figure out how to do it?)

                            DEAD PEOPLE CAN'T HELP YOU.
                            Jesus is dead too... so he can't help us?

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                            • Pastor Ezekiel
                              Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                               
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 78555

                              #44
                              Re: Catholic

                              Originally posted by Rev. Dr. Davidson View Post
                              Jesus never went to Rome, but He probably would have. We know for a fact, from scripture, that His Father surely would.
                              No, but He certainly will be paying those papist dogs a visit soon. I have it on good authority that Jesus is planning on making the vatican His first stop on the "judgement express" once he returns to slay the wicked. Which should be any day now.

                              Our Lord will set things straight on that fine day, I promise.
                              Who Will Jesus Damn?

                              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                              Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                              • The Catholic
                                Confirmed Enemy of God
                                BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8

                                #45
                                Re: Catholic

                                Originally posted by Rev. Dr. Davidson View Post
                                Jesus never went to Rome, but He probably would have. We know for a fact, from scripture, that His Father surely would.
                                Well he didn't live in Rome but, I am positive he lived in the Roman Empire.

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