[portugueseandproud]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

I'll tell you this small story than:

My grandparents were German Catholics. They lived in Munich. One day their neighbours disappeared, they left their baby at their doorstep in the middle of the night. Needless to say, my grandparents took care of the child. A couple of weeks later the SS stormed the house and killed my grandparents. The child was jewish, his parents were gone, because they were going to be arrested, so they left the newly born with my grandparents, who were about to leave the country.

You know who told the Nazis, that my grandparents were nursing a Jewish baby? A Baptist pastor.

In fact, you ignorant, the Baptists were one of the Fuhrer's favourite religious groups, since a ton of them were involved in pointing out who was Jewish or had Jewish friends to the Nazis.

So, yeah, thanks for killing my grandparents. You're just full of hate, look out, your man might beat you up if he sees you using a computer.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

Why don't you stick to hanging out with your friends, the Nazis?!

Because we're not hateful Catholic bastards, that's why. Your papists and the Nazis were cozy in bed for years.



Catholics shun the POPE, but embraced HITLER:

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

Does anyone here know why Peter signifies rock? So, the people who met Peter and Jesus gave him the name that signifies rock for what purpose?
!

Peter literally means rock because that's what it means as a word.

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

So what! What amazing gotcha are you going to spring on us?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

Does anyone here know why Peter signifies rock? So, the people who met Peter and Jesus gave him the name that signifies rock for what purpose?

Ugh, protestants. Why don't you stick to hanging out with your friends, the Nazis?!

You Goodwin much?

Hitler; Catholic

Mussolini: Catholic, though he was an atheist for a bit (dad was an Atheist, mother a hard core Catholic)

Franco: Catholic

Notice the trend Mr, I come from a country that was a dictatorship until the '80s?

I mean it should be painfully obvious that Nazis were all Catholics because they came from the Catholic part of Germany. Bavaria and all that. Sure Himmler was off in Fantasy Role Playing land, but he was hardly the rule and certainly not a protestant.

[portugueseandproud]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

Does anyone here know why Peter signifies rock? So, the people who met Peter and Jesus gave him the name that signifies rock for what purpose?

Ugh, protestants. Why don't you stick to hanging out with your friends, the Nazis?!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

Catholics are merely pagans (Christmas trees were a pagan tradition) who use Christ's name to snare Christians..

A very accurate observation Mrs Thump.

Anticipating Jesus' ministry and the bogus claims of demonic Romish theologians God inspired the Psalmist to write

PSALM 118
21 I will praise thee, for thou hast heard mee: and art become my saluation.
22 The stone which the builders refused: is become the head stone of the corner.
23 This is the Lords doing: it is marueilous in our eyes.
©1611

Neither Peter, Paul nor Mary brought salvation [verse21]: the passage is obviously referring to Jesus.

The Israelites had been the unique custodians of God's Revelation, and through that Revelation the whole world might eventually be saved (instead of everybody going to Hell except for some of the Israelites). But they were sex obsessed maniacs most of the time (resulting in many of them having to be butchered either by the surrounding pagan hoardes whom God motivated to partially destroy His Chosen People or directly, by God Himself) and God decided that they were probably not worth the effort. Jesus explained it like this:

MATTHEW 21
33 Heare another parable. There was a certaine house-holder, which planted a Uineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a wine-presse in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a farre countrey.
34 And when the time of the fruite drew neere, he sent his seruants to the husbandmen, that they might receiue the fruits of it.
35 And the husbandmen tooke his seruants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36 Againe hee sent other seruants, moe then the first, and they did vnto them likewise.
37 But last of all, he sent vnto them his sonne, saying, They will reuerence my sonne.
38 But when the husbandmen saw the sonne, they said among themselues, This is the heire, come, let vs kill him, and let vs sease on his inheritance.
39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the Uineyard, and slew him.

Jesus knew that His former chosen people were going to kill Him and was announcing that "most favoured nation" status was about to be reassigned. As He spoke, the rotten religious leaders began to realise that too. Jesus continued:

40 When the Lord therefore of the Uineyard commeth, what will he doe vnto those husbandmen?
41 They say vnto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his Uineyard vnto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42 Iesus saith vnto them, Did ye neuer reade in the Scriptures, The stone which the builders reiected, the same is become the head of the corner? This is the Lords doing, and it is marueilous in our eyes.
43 Therefore say I vnto you, the kingdome of God shall be taken from you, and giuen to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoeuer shall fall on this stone, shalbe broken: but on whom soeuer it shall fall, it will grinde him to powder.
45 And when the chiefe Priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceiued that he spake of them.
©1611

The cornerstone referred to [verse42] is Jesus. It is not Peter.

Let's see what Peter had to say.

ACTS 4
8 Then Peter filled with the holy Ghost, said vnto them, Ye rulers of the people, and Elders of Israel,
9 If we this day be examined of †the good deed done to the impotent man, by what meanes he is made whole,
10 Be it knowen vnto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the Name of Iesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whome God raised from the dead, euen by him, doeth this man stand here before you, whole.
11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12 Neither is there saluation in any other: for there is none other name vnder heauen giuen among men whereby we must be saued.
©1611

† Peter had healed a smitten man READ ABOUT IT HERE

Jesus is very clearly represented BY GOD as the Cornerstone upon which His Church is built. Peter is never represented in that way.
You know, I could say "a hippopotamus is a river thing" and then go on by way of explanation obfuscation to say that we therefore should use them as floating brothels, as commanded by Hecate.

But the 2nd statement does not follow on from the 1st in just the same way that no catholic priest, bishop, cardinal (honestly have you ever seen such meretricious self-aggrandisement?) or pope (well, except in a brothel perhaps) Job 27:19 has ever had any communion with God or any association however tenuous with the Truth of Jesus.
God helps us to understand this (just in case it were not blatantly obvious to some mumbo-jumbo infected vermin such as ..well what would be a good example? ..oh! how about Father Thomas Martin ..he can't tell the difference between a set of unclean buttocks bulbous reeking 'neath a cassock and the Inerrant Word of Almighty God):

III John 1:11 Beloued, follow not that which is euill, but that which is good. He that doth good, is of God: but hee that doth euill, hath not seene God.
©1611

Just reading a newspaper is sufficient to illustrate that the false and satanic priesthood of wretched catholicism is synonymous with evil - and not just the evil of being devil infested debauchees which vice, after all, might be forgiven Mark 3:28. Vatican demoniacs bring us the maxed-out fly-blown putrefaction of Beelzebub, wallowing in leachates of their own corruption Mark 3:29.

There are 1 or 2 priests hanging around this forum Mrs Thump; I think it's probably best just to pop them in the "ignore" list. They don't have anything new to say.

[Mrs. Thumpthebible]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

Catholics are merely pagans (Christmas trees were a pagan tradition) who use Christ's name to snare Christians into selling their souls to a cult. They take people's money and proceed to force impressionable young boy into sodomy.. they deserve to die! (Leviticus 20:30)

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

You see, what Jesus is saying is that Simon Bar-jona had the right answer. “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

Q: What is “my church”?
A: It is Christianity.

Q: What is the very basis of Christianity (the church)?
A: Accepting Jesus as “The Son of the living God.”

Q: So what is “the rock”?
A: Accepting Jesus as “The Son of the living God.” And upon this proposition, Jesus builds His Religion.

He does not build it on Peter. Even if He had done, he did not say to Peter that he could pass it on the ability to “bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

[Bible Student]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

Its no wonder that everyone despises you church, spreading these sorts of lies and falsehoods and hate.

Did you have something substantive you would like to discuss? And are we to guess who the person is to whom you addressed your vile accusations?

[terryobrien, papist dog]

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Its no wonder that everyone despises you church, spreading these sorts of lies and falsehoods and hate.

[Bible Student]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

if any of that was true and peter was not the head explain these few quotes from the early christians
Tatian the Syrian


"Simon Cephas answered and said, ‘You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.’ Jesus answered and said unto him, ‘Blessed are you, Simon, son of Jonah: flesh and blood has not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say unto thee also, that you are Cephas, and on this rock will I build my Church; and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it" (The Diatesseron 23 [A.D. 170]).


Tertullian


"Was anything withheld from the knowledge of Peter, who is called ‘the rock on which the Church would be built’ [Matt. 16:18] with the power of ‘loosing and binding in heaven and on earth’ [Matt. 16:19]?" (Demurrer Against the Heretics 22 [A.D. 200]).

"[T]he Lord said to Peter, ‘On this rock I will build my Church, I have given you the keys of the kingdom of heaven [and] whatever you shall have bound or loosed on earth will be bound or loosed in heaven’ [Matt. 16:18–19]. . . . What kind of man are you, subverting and changing what was the manifest intent of the Lord when he conferred this personally upon Peter? Upon you, he says, I will build my Church; and I will give to you the keys" (Modesty 21:9–10 [A.D. 220]).


The Letter of Clement to James


"Be it known to you, my lord, that Simon [Peter], who, for the sake of the true faith, and the most sure foundation of his doctrine, was set apart to be the foundation of the Church, and for this end was by Jesus himself, with his truthful mouth, named Peter" (Letter of Clement to James 2 [A.D. 221]).


The Clementine Homilies


"[Simon Peter said to Simon Magus in Rome:] ‘For you now stand in direct opposition to me, who am a firm rock, the foundation of the Church’ [Matt. 16:18]" (Clementine Homilies 17:19 [A.D. 221]).


Origen


"Look at [Peter], the great foundation of the Church, that most solid of rocks, upon whom Christ built the Church [Matt. 16:18]. And what does our Lord say to him? ‘Oh you of little faith,’ he says, ‘why do you doubt?’ [Matt. 14:31]" (Homilies on Exodus 5:4 [A.D. 248]).


Cyprian of Carthage


"The Lord says to Peter: ‘I say to you,’ he says, ‘that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not overcome it. And to you I will give the keys of the kingdom of heaven . . . ’ [Matt. 16:18–19]. On him [Peter] he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep [John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was [i.e., apostles], but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair. . . . If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?" (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; 1st edition [A.D. 251]).

"There is one God and one Christ, and one Church, and one chair founded on Peter by the word of the Lord. It is not possible to set up another altar or for there to be another priesthood besides that one altar and that one priesthood. Whoever has gathered elsewhere is scattering" (Letters 43[40]:5 [A.D. 253]).

"There [John 6:68–69] speaks Peter, upon whom the Church would be built, teaching in the name of the Church and showing that even if a stubborn and proud multitude withdraws because it does not wish to obey, yet the Church does not withdraw from Christ. The people joined to the priest and the flock clinging to their shepherd are the Church. You ought to know, then, that the bishop is in the Church and the Church in the bishop, and if someone is not with the bishop, he is not in the Church. They vainly flatter themselves who creep up, not having peace with the priests of God, believing that they are
secretly [i.e., invisibly] in communion with certain individuals. For the Church, which is one and Catholic, is not split nor divided, but it is indeed united and joined by the cement of priests who adhere one to another" (ibid., 66[69]:8).


Firmilian


"But what is his error . . . who does not remain on the foundation of the one Church which was founded upon the rock by Christ [Matt. 16:18], can be learned from this, which Christ said to Peter alone: ‘Whatever things you shall bind on earth shall be bound also in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth, they shall be loosed in heaven’ [Matt. 16:19]" (collected in Cyprian’s Letters 74[75]:16 [A.D. 253]).

"[Pope] Stephen [I] . . . boasts of the place of his episcopate, and contends that he holds the succession from Peter, on whom the foundations of the Church were laid [Matt. 16:18]. . . . [Pope] Stephen . . . announces that he holds by succession the throne of Peter" (ibid., 74[75]:17).


Ephraim the Syrian


"[Jesus said:] ‘Simon, my follower, I have made you the foundation of the holy Church. I betimes called you Peter, because you will support all its buildings. You are the inspector of those who will build on earth a Church for me. If they should wish to build what is false, you, the foundation, will condemn them. You are the head of the fountain from which my teaching flows; you are the chief of my disciples’" (Homilies 4:1 [A.D. 351]).


Optatus


"You cannot deny that you are aware that in the city of Rome the episcopal chair was given first to Peter; the chair in which Peter sat, the same who was head—that is why he is also called Cephas [‘Rock’]—of all the apostles; the one chair in which unity is maintained by all" (The Schism of the Donatists 2:2 [A.D. 367]).


Ambrose of Milan


"[Christ] made answer: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock will I build my Church. . . . ’ Could he not, then, strengthen the faith of the man to whom, acting on his own authority, he gave the kingdom, whom he called the rock, thereby declaring him to be the foundation of the Church [Matt. 16:18]?" (The Faith 4:5 [A.D. 379]).

"It is to Peter that he says: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church’ [Matt. 16:18]. Where Peter is, there is the Church. And where the Church is, no death is there, but life eternal" (Commentary on Twelve Psalms of David 40:30 [A.D. 389]).


Pope Damasus I


"Likewise it is decreed . . . that it ought to be announced that . . . the holy Roman Church has not been placed at the forefront [of the churches] by the conciliar decisions of other churches, but has received the primacy by the evangelic voice of our Lord and Savior, who says: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it; and I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. . . . ’ [Matt. 16:18–19]. The first see, therefore, is that of Peter the apostle, that of the Roman Church, which has neither stain nor blemish nor anything like it" (Decree of Damasus 3 [A.D. 382]).

You do realize that all those Early Christian writers were alter egos of Eusebius don't you? He made them up like he made up the History of Christianity. We have absolutely nothing from those authors you listed. What we have is Eusebius said that Taitan said such and such. Or Eusebius said that Tertullian said such and such or Eusebius said that Clement or Origin or Clementine said such and such. Nothing not a sentence, a word or punctuation mark from any of those people whom you mentioned exists not even in an ancient fragment. And Eusebius was the one responsible for starting the evil, heathen Catolick church to begin with.

And to compound the problem we don't even have anything actually by Eusebius. We have copies of copies of copies, etc., of what is supposed to be Eusebius' work that only dates from the 15th or 16th centuries AD. And those were maintained for 1700 years by the evil Catolick church.

Come back when you actually have something that can be verified as having been written by an actual Early Christian writer that is contemporary with his life.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

Nah

Jesus said to Peter upon this rock I will build my church and the church was built around Peter

Our first holy Roman Father

Couldn't be bothered to read the thread, could you.

[Mapkaz]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

Many of the sinning Catholics which find their way to sites of serious debate on the internet in their search for child pornography will persist to argue that the apostle Peter was the first Pope. This is not, in fact, the case. Rather it is a popular tradition of the Vatican's satanic dogma that has come to be thought genuine through years upon years of Papal propaganda.

It is argued that Peter, as the so called "Bishop of Rome", serves as the forerunner to the satanic office of the Pope, but this, in reality, could not really be further from the truth; appart from the fact that in order to be "Pope" one must possess the office of Pontifex Maximus, which Peter did not (in this time the Pontifex Maximus was none other than Caesar); in Peter's time, the Christian faith was composed of many small communities spread across an area large enough to keep them all virtually independent from one another with their own particular eccentricities and so on, and with no fixed universal Christian hierachy established, aside from the LORD our saviour Jesus, that is. People rarely travelled within immediate walking distance of their own homes, and those who did travel would either have done so alone or in small, slow moving groups, resulting in an almost non-existant transferal of information between the many Christian communities, and even up to the time of Constantine the Great in the 4th Century AD, ours was a small and scattered faith when placed alongside the established Pagan traditions of the Roman Empire.

This brings us to the question: Who was the first Pope? Well, in true Catholic tradition, the first Pope was a corrupt, sexual deviant murderer, Damasus the First.

Damasus I was born in Rome circa AD 305 and lived until areond AD 383. The son of a Spaniard, Antoninus, and a mother (called Laurentia) of unknown origin, though she was most likely a native Roman. The young Damasus grew up within the community of the Church of St Laurence, and it is known he worked from his earliest days in service to this church.

In his maturity Damasus worked his way up the church hierarchal ladder. Eventually gaining the favour of the emperor Gratian, who supported him through some severe controversies, controversies of Damasus' own making.
A cunning, brutal, hedonistic character, and a sexual predator of the worst kind, Damasus siezed his opportunity to lead the western church when Liberius, the Bishop of Rome, died in the year 366. Two factions were in competition to succeed his office; one led by Deacon Ursinus, and another supporting Damasus. Not wanting to leave his fate to a formal debate or a decision out of his hands (as it is almost certain that he would have lost due to his sullied reputation), Damasus urged his followers to wage war upon the faction of his adversary, conducting terrorist raids upon their strongholds. This violence lasted for 3 days and resulted in the deaths of approximately 140 to 150 church members loyal to the Deacon. To make matters worse, those killed were were slaughtered in a church where they had saught sanctuary, the Liberian Bassilica. Damasas' supporter actually broke into the church through its roof top and used debris from their entrance as impromptu weapons to attack and kill their enemies.

In the face of this brutal assault, Ursinus declined his claim to the office of Bishop of Rome, and the title was awarded by Gratian (the current Pontifex Maximus) to Damasus. Later in the year, Gratian also granted Damasus the office of Pontifex Maximus, the religious head of the Roman Empire, consolodating the power of Damasus over the Church and creating the office of Pope.

During the course of his career many flaws in Damasus' character came to be known to the general public. His sexual deviancy led to his earning the disturbing nickname "matronarum auriscalpius", The "ladies' ear tickler", and he was also accused of numerouss murder. He escaped this charge through his extensive connections to various Patrician families, and through his alliance with Gratian. Despite being acquitted of his charges, his bad reputation followed him for the rest of his life, earning him enourmous amounts of infamy.

Another interesting fact about the first Pope which still resonates within Catholisism to this day is that he did not only gain the leadership of the empire's religious affairs at his inauguration, but also the control of Rome's many brothels, a position he retained until his death. This began the Catholic tradition of 'Pope as pimp'; a tradition which is still bservable now. In the period of his Papacy, he also disowned his family, and publicly denounced them, for the false premise of abandoning mortal sins to become a chaste, virtuous model of Christ himself. This led, of course, to the infaous rule amongst Catholics that priest must maintain celibacy throughout life (although we now of course know that celibacy amongst Catholic priests is as common as true evidence in an evilutionist's argument).

Possibly the most lasting impact of Damasus' rule as Pope was the division it caused between the Eastern and Western churches. His fasciation with Pagan idols, ritual and the like led to much of the Pagan symbolism prevalent within Catholc worship today. As well as his own personal interest in these matters, he also encouraged the promotion of such Pagan traditions to boost popularity of the Western church amongst the Roman Pagans, thus netting him a greater congregation and allowing him to compete with more ease against his Eastern rival, the Bishop of Constantinople. He was obsessed with power, and would go to any lengths to attain and retain it. He also was responsible for the translation of the Bible from the old Latin, to the newer form, which is now known as the "Vulgate" text. This also encouraged this split between the East and West, as the eastern church based in Byzantium (Constantinople) still used the Greek translation of the Bible, a tradition which has resulted in the modern Greek Orthodox Church.

By the time of Damasus' death circa 383/384, the damage had been done, and the Catholic church had established its Satanic foothold in the civilised world.

In conclusion, when you encounter any Catholic rabidly preaching the authority of Peter as the first Pope and the precedence of the Catholic Church over other forms of Christianity, you will know to tell them the history of the violent sexual predator who was the first Pope.

Nah

Jesus said to Peter upon this rock I will build my church and the church was built around Peter

Our first holy Roman Father

[Aziz Mahood]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

Where does any of that say "Also you will be infallible and granted mystical powers and everyone should call you Father"?

Where does any of that say "Also you will be infallible and granted mystical powers and everyone should call you Father"?

Clement was not a Christian, he promoted Stoic-inspired heresies like the idea of "adultery within marriage" instead of God's Truth.

Origen was not a Christian. Even the Catholics admit that, since the Fifth Ecumenical Council pronounced 15 anathemas against Origen in 553.

Good source bro.

None of that says anything about the legitimacy of Damasus' claim to be Peter's successor.

Quoting Stephen saying "Yeah, I'm definitely well holy and that" still doesn't make it true.


And, as a disciple of Jesus and follower of Peter, I condemn the Catholics for building something false. Job done.

I don't have anything against Peter. I still can't see how this supports Damasus' claim to be Peter's successor.

Ambrose of Milan was a monster who persecuted Christians for being Christians. Do you agree with the way that Jovinian was treated for defending the Holy Insitution of Matrimony?

That's a quote from an anti-Christ, and as such has zero credibility. Here, I'll leave you with another quote, from a source with every bit as much credibility as Damasus.

Ahh... Clement who litature helped to promot the facily of Peters voyage to Rome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clementine_literature

[Brother Temperance]

Re: The Birth of the Papacy

if any of that was true and peter was not the head explain these few quotes from the early christians
Tatian the Syrian


"Simon Cephas answered and said, ‘You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.’ Jesus answered and said unto him, ‘Blessed are you, Simon, son of Jonah: flesh and blood has not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say unto thee also, that you are Cephas, and on this rock will I build my Church; and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it" (The Diatesseron 23 [A.D. 170]).

Where does any of that say "Also you will be infallible and granted mystical powers and everyone should call you Father"?

Tertullian


"Was anything withheld from the knowledge of Peter, who is called ‘the rock on which the Church would be built’ [Matt. 16:18] with the power of ‘loosing and binding in heaven and on earth’ [Matt. 16:19]?" (Demurrer Against the Heretics 22 [A.D. 200]).

"[T]he Lord said to Peter, ‘On this rock I will build my Church, I have given you the keys of the kingdom of heaven [and] whatever you shall have bound or loosed on earth will be bound or loosed in heaven’ [Matt. 16:18–19]. . . . What kind of man are you, subverting and changing what was the manifest intent of the Lord when he conferred this personally upon Peter? Upon you, he says, I will build my Church; and I will give to you the keys" (Modesty 21:9–10 [A.D. 220]).

Where does any of that say "Also you will be infallible and granted mystical powers and everyone should call you Father"?

The Letter of Clement to James


"Be it known to you, my lord, that Simon [Peter], who, for the sake of the true faith, and the most sure foundation of his doctrine, was set apart to be the foundation of the Church, and for this end was by Jesus himself, with his truthful mouth, named Peter" (Letter of Clement to James 2 [A.D. 221]).

The Clementine Homilies


"[Simon Peter said to Simon Magus in Rome:] ‘For you now stand in direct opposition to me, who am a firm rock, the foundation of the Church’ [Matt. 16:18]" (Clementine Homilies 17:19 [A.D. 221]).

Clement was not a Christian, he promoted Stoic-inspired heresies like the idea of "adultery within marriage" instead of God's Truth.

Origen


"Look at [Peter], the great foundation of the Church, that most solid of rocks, upon whom Christ built the Church [Matt. 16:18]. And what does our Lord say to him? ‘Oh you of little faith,’ he says, ‘why do you doubt?’ [Matt. 14:31]" (Homilies on Exodus 5:4 [A.D. 248]).

Origen was not a Christian. Even the Catholics admit that, since the Fifth Ecumenical Council pronounced 15 anathemas against Origen in 553.

IF anyone does not anathematize Arius, Eunomius, Macedonius, Apollinaris, Nestorius, Eutyches and Origen, as well as their impious writings, as also all other heretics already condemned and anathematized by the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, and by the aforesaid four Holy Synods and [if anyone does not equally anathematize] all those who have held and hold or who in their impiety persist in holding to the end the same opinion as those heretics just mentioned: let him be anathema.

Good source bro.

Cyprian of Carthage


"The Lord says to Peter: ‘I say to you,’ he says, ‘that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not overcome it. And to you I will give the keys of the kingdom of heaven . . . ’ [Matt. 16:18–19]. On him [Peter] he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep [John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was [i.e., apostles], but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair. . . . If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?" (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; 1st edition [A.D. 251]).

"There is one God and one Christ, and one Church, and one chair founded on Peter by the word of the Lord. It is not possible to set up another altar or for there to be another priesthood besides that one altar and that one priesthood. Whoever has gathered elsewhere is scattering" (Letters 43[40]:5 [A.D. 253]).

"There [John 6:68–69] speaks Peter, upon whom the Church would be built, teaching in the name of the Church and showing that even if a stubborn and proud multitude withdraws because it does not wish to obey, yet the Church does not withdraw from Christ. The people joined to the priest and the flock clinging to their shepherd are the Church. You ought to know, then, that the bishop is in the Church and the Church in the bishop, and if someone is not with the bishop, he is not in the Church. They vainly flatter themselves who creep up, not having peace with the priests of God, believing that they are
secretly [i.e., invisibly] in communion with certain individuals. For the Church, which is one and Catholic, is not split nor divided, but it is indeed united and joined by the cement of priests who adhere one to another" (ibid., 66[69]:8).

None of that says anything about the legitimacy of Damasus' claim to be Peter's successor.

Firmilian


"But what is his error . . . who does not remain on the foundation of the one Church which was founded upon the rock by Christ [Matt. 16:18], can be learned from this, which Christ said to Peter alone: ‘Whatever things you shall bind on earth shall be bound also in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth, they shall be loosed in heaven’ [Matt. 16:19]" (collected in Cyprian’s Letters 74[75]:16 [A.D. 253]).

"[Pope] Stephen [I] . . . boasts of the place of his episcopate, and contends that he holds the succession from Peter, on whom the foundations of the Church were laid [Matt. 16:18]. . . . [Pope] Stephen . . . announces that he holds by succession the throne of Peter" (ibid., 74[75]:17).

Quoting Stephen saying "Yeah, I'm definitely well holy and that" still doesn't make it true.

Ephraim the Syrian


"[Jesus said:] ‘Simon, my follower, I have made you the foundation of the holy Church. I betimes called you Peter, because you will support all its buildings. You are the inspector of those who will build on earth a Church for me. If they should wish to build what is false, you, the foundation, will condemn them. You are the head of the fountain from which my teaching flows; you are the chief of my disciples’" (Homilies 4:1 [A.D. 351]).

And, as a disciple of Jesus and follower of Peter, I condemn the Catholics for building something false. Job done.

Optatus


"You cannot deny that you are aware that in the city of Rome the episcopal chair was given first to Peter; the chair in which Peter sat, the same who was head—that is why he is also called Cephas [‘Rock’]—of all the apostles; the one chair in which unity is maintained by all" (The Schism of the Donatists 2:2 [A.D. 367]).

I don't have anything against Peter. I still can't see how this supports Damasus' claim to be Peter's successor.

Ambrose of Milan


"[Christ] made answer: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock will I build my Church. . . . ’ Could he not, then, strengthen the faith of the man to whom, acting on his own authority, he gave the kingdom, whom he called the rock, thereby declaring him to be the foundation of the Church [Matt. 16:18]?" (The Faith 4:5 [A.D. 379]).

"It is to Peter that he says: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church’ [Matt. 16:18]. Where Peter is, there is the Church. And where the Church is, no death is there, but life eternal" (Commentary on Twelve Psalms of David 40:30 [A.D. 389]).

Ambrose of Milan was a monster who persecuted Christians for being Christians. Do you agree with the way that Jovinian was treated for defending the Holy Insitution of Matrimony?

Pope Damasus I


"Likewise it is decreed . . . that it ought to be announced that . . . the holy Roman Church has not been placed at the forefront [of the churches] by the conciliar decisions of other churches, but has received the primacy by the evangelic voice of our Lord and Savior, who says: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it; and I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. . . . ’ [Matt. 16:18–19]. The first see, therefore, is that of Peter the apostle, that of the Roman Church, which has neither stain nor blemish nor anything like it" (Decree of Damasus 3 [A.D. 382]).

That's a quote from an anti-Christ, and as such has zero credibility. Here, I'll leave you with another quote, from a source with every bit as much credibility as Damasus.

Here, all them Catholics definitely have it totally wrong, it turns out that the real successor to Peter's authority is actually me. Who'd have thought it?