[Meek and Humble]

Re: I am Catholic.

The only things you ever have to say are opinions.

Why don't you step down and let Heathen Basher do his work?

How dare you use my name as a tool in attacking our Godly Pastor?! After all this time I have spent talking to you, I feel very betrayed. If you continue to be so rude, I will simply put you on my ignore list.

[-matty-]

Re: I am Catholic.

for all have sinned. It's past tense.

Now if we are all constantly sinning as you say, how can anyone abide in God?

Matthew ch6 v12a [part of the Lord's Prayer] - "Forgive us our sins" If you do not (no longer) sin, then why do you - I assume you do - pray this prayer? If you have sinned, and have asked for forgiveness, why keep asking for forgiveness for sins you've been forgived for?

I don't believe that you haven't sinned today. I do believe that if you ask God for forgiveness, he will forgive you and your sin is washed away. It makes no difference to me if you have sinned or not. I don't care what you may or may not have done in the past, or what you may or may not do in the future. I do know that you will be forgiven though. Of course, we shouldn't 'aim' to sin knowing that we will be forgiven, but as humans we do sin, even if it is only going 5mph over the speed limit or forgetting to indicate at a junction.

In effect, I guess you haven't sinned, because you have been forgiven for your sins so your sins - whether old or recent - have been washed away and no longer exist (and Praise the Lord for that!). If such is the case though, why not say that instead of saying you haven't sinned, especially with people who will not believe you on it?

As for Jesus' attitide to forgiveness, this is what he's said on the matter:

Matthew ch18 vv21-22:

Then came Peter to him, and said, "Lord, how oft shall my brother sin me, and I forgive him? Till seven times?" Jesus saith unto him, "I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven."

Of course, the literal translation to this is that we should only forgive people for 490 times. I have heard it said thaty by saying 'seventy times seven' was basically saying 'always' as 490 was a too high number for comprehension back then; while I don't agree with the latter part of that I do with the former bit.

[WWJDnow]

Re: I am Catholic.

You tell me you don't go to Church? You tell me all of your worship is done in a closet?

We go to church. We don't pray during our church services, though. We listen to sermons, bear witness to the Resurrection, chastise sinners, shave the heads of women who show up without hats, and occasionally speak in tongues. I understand that there are several thousand prayer closets in the main chapel in Freehold (I'm moving up on the waitlist to get tickets, it looks like I'll be able to see for myself in late 2011!) for those moved by the Holy Ghost to prayer.

If we were in a group and I asked you to lead us in prayer would you deny it?

Yes, just as we would deny any sin. God told us not to pray in public. You even admitted it. So why are you so adamant now that it's a good thing to do. Could it be SATAN?

Matthew ch6 v12a [part of the Lord's Prayer] - "Forgive us our sins" If you do not (no longer) sin, then why do you - I assume you do - pray this prayer? If you have sinned, and have asked for forgiveness, why keep asking for forgiveness for sins you've been forgived for?

Forgived for? If you're going to spread your lies in our forums, would you at least have the decency to do it in proper English?

I don't believe that you haven't sinned today.

You're so filled with sin, you can't understand that Christians aren't.

Then came Peter to him, and said, "Lord, how oft shall my brother sin me, and I forgive him? Till seven times?" Jesus saith unto him, "I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven."

Peter's brother was obviously not Saved, so he sinned.