[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

But you do worship those statues. Enjoy hell.

I am glad we have come to agree that the commandment only forbids the worship of these images

To continue, please specifically state which actions performed by the Catholic Church you constitute as worship.

I'll get you started:

1. The Mass
2.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Bowing down to statuary.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Bowing down to statuary.

Would you say that worship is constituted by spiritual intention or physical action? Or are both required? I.e. Can any physical action, in itself, be considered worship?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Offering prayers to other than God.
Calling priests father.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Would you say that worship is constituted by spiritual intention or physical action? Or are both required? I.e. Can any physical action, in itself, be considered worship?

When you lay prostrate in front of a statue, the intent is clear. It's always around and around with you, papist dog.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

When you lay prostrate in front of a statue, the intent is clear.

Let's examine this.

If laying prostrate itself is constituted as worship, then it would be possible to force people into worshiping anything by pushing them into a prostrated position. Furthermore, one might accidentally "worship" the headboard of their bed one night and never even know it.

This cannot be the case.

Worship is neither confined to nor governed by any physical action of our own. Rather, it is the spirit that worships, and it is only by the intent of the spirit which we can determine an act of worship.

But you say:

the intent is clear.

We can verify that this is not the intention of any true Catholic because the Catechism of the Catholic Church clearly states that we worship only the One True God. The Catechism contains all Catholic doctrines, dogmas, and traditions. If this is secretly our intention, then the Catechism would be required to state that, by laying prostrated, we intend to worship whatever my be before us.

It can only be concluded that laying prostrated, in itself, is not worship, and that the Catholic Church does not tell Catholics to prostrate themselves in worship before any idol.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians




Catholics bowing before a graven image.

[exMormon]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

We can verify that this is not the intention of any true Catholic because the Catechism of the Catholic Church clearly states that we worship only the One True God. The Catechism contains all Catholic doctrines, dogmas, and traditions. If this is secretly our intention, then the Catechism would be required to state that, by laying prostrated, we intend to worship whatever my be before us.

Why would we be interested in knowing about anything taken out of your Catholic spell book?

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

He's naive enough to think the people who wrote the Catechism are sincere and not controlled by Satan

No, you don't have to be aware of what you are doing to go to hell.


Matthew 7: 21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.



Amos 5:21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.
5:22 Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts.
5:23 Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols.

Proverbs 14: 12There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Proverbs 16: 2All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but the LORD weigheth the spirits.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Catholics bowing before a graven image.

I am glad that we have concluded that Catholics do not worship graven images or idols

Now however, the question remains that Catholics are known to bow before such images, seemingly forbidden in Exodus 20.

Would you kindly go into greater detail about the nature of your concern? If it has been proven that Catholics do not worship these images, then why do you feel that showing respect for a fellow Christian, through a bow or kiss, separates us from God?

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

I am glad that we have concluded that Catholics do not worship graven images or idols

Now however, the question remains that Catholics are known to bow before such images, seemingly forbidden in Exodus 20.

Would you kindly go into greater detail about the nature of your concern? If it has been proven that Catholics do not worship these images, then why do you feel that showing respect for a fellow Christian, through a bow or kiss, separates us from God?

Oh, but you do worship them.

Peter, the man you claim to be Pope, agrees with me on the subject.

[Christs body lover]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

All Catholics want to do is protect false prophets who fornicate with young fragile altar boys or orphanned girls. I am glad to say I have freed myself from the Papist indoctrination my parents inflicted upon me.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Oh, but you do worship them.

Peter, the man you claim to be Pope, agrees with me on the subject.

Why do you repeat yourself?

But you do worship those statues. Enjoy hell.

Heathen Basher, logic, reasoning, and physical proof is required for this statement that you continue to sound. Furthermore, you have overlooked many posts I have made to the contrary.

In opposition, I have already proven with no objections from your fellow landovers that worship requires specific spiritual intent:

Let's examine this.

If laying prostrate itself is constituted as worship, then it would be possible to force people into worshiping anything by pushing them into a prostrated position. Furthermore, one might accidentally "worship" the headboard of their bed one night and never even know it.

This cannot be the case.

Worship is neither confined to nor governed by any physical action of our own. Rather, it is the spirit that worships, and it is only by the intent of the spirit which we can determine an act of worship.

But you say:

Originally Posted by Levi Jones
the intent is clear.

We can verify that this is not the intention of any true Catholic because the Catechism of the Catholic Church clearly states that we worship only the One True God. The Catechism contains all Catholic doctrines, dogmas, and traditions. If this is secretly our intention, then the Catechism would be required to state that, by laying prostrated, we intend to worship whatever my be before us.

It can only be concluded that laying prostrated, in itself, is not worship, and that the Catholic Church does not tell Catholics to prostrate themselves in worship before any idol.

And because the Catechism does not teach to worship idols, then the Catholic Church does not teach to worship idols, and there are no grounds, therefore, to base your claim.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Why do you repeat yourself?

I wondered the same thing about you.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

I wondered the same thing about you.

As you can see, I have addressed Heathen Bashers claim, twice now that I have "repeated myself."

It remains unchallenged.

The landovers must either answer my logic or admit their error.