Joos caused WWII

[Jimmy C Lombardo]

We all know Joos sank the Titanic but did they also cause WWII? I remember from Grade 4 Christian History class that the Joos killed Jesus Christ and the cowards never even freakin apologized.

If you think about it, if only they:

1. gave back all the money they swindled and coveted.

2. Apologized for the death of Jesus

3. Converted to Christianity

The Holocost may never have happened!! It's all just one big April Fools Joke.

Its not that I support the Nazis, but I simply hate the Joos more. Every disaster is their fault. Before they go around trying to pick splinters out of the eyes of Nazi sympathizers, they should take out the massive log from their big FAT crooked noses!

[Jimmy C Lombardo]

Re: Joos caused WWII

I did some more reserch:

The Hindenberg was the pride of Germany.



But those merciless Jews senselessly had their way with it. Probably Hindenberg was also the name of some old Jooish couple whose pawn shop was losing business to the zepplin.

The innocent Christians on board didnt even stand a chance!



(And now the Joos have moved or deleted my evidence! What are they tryin to hide!?)

[2 Timothy 3:16]

Re: Joos caused WWII

We all know Joos sank the Titanic but did they also cause WWII? I remember from Grade 4 Christian History class that the Joos killed Jesus Christ and the cowards never even freakin apologized.

If you think about it, if only they:

1. gave back all the money they swindled and coveted.

2. Apologized for the death of Jesus

3. Converted to Christianity

The Holocost may never have happened!! It's all just one big April Fools Joke.

Its not that I support the Nazis, but I simply hate the Joos more. Every disaster is their fault. Before they go around trying to pick splinters out of the eyes of Nazi sympathizers, they should take out the massive log from their big FAT crooked noses!

They are still God's chosen people:

Deut 7:6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Deut 7:7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: Deut 7:8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Romans 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Romans 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
Romans 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

[Jimmy C Lombardo]

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Did you even READ the rest of the Bible?

1 Thessalonians 2:14-16


15Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
16Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

[2 Timothy 3:16]

Re: Joos caused WWII

Did you even READ the rest of the Bible?

1 Thessalonians 2:14-16


15Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
16Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

Yep. And you are going to be hard-pressed to find a time that it refers the "the Jews who killed Jesus" to mean something other than the religious leaders of the day. See the entire book of John for about a million examples of this.

[Jimmy C Lombardo]

Re: Joos caused WWII

You think your pretty smart don't you, boy? Well I can't say I like your supercilious attitude. How do I know you ain't some Jewboy accountant trying to mock Christians and defend his filthy race??

[Phoenix]

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They are still God's chosen people:

Sir,

May I ask, what do you make of these verses, from the Gospel according to Luke?

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
~ Luke 13:34-35

And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.
For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.
~ Luke 19:41-44

And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
~ Luke 21:20-24

And as they led him away, they laid hold upon one Simon, a Cyrenian, coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross, that he might bear it after Jesus.
And there followed him a great company of people, and of women, which also bewailed and lamented him.
But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.
For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.
Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?
~ Luke 23:26-31

Respectfully.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Joos caused WWII

We all know Joos sank the Titanic but did they also cause WWII? I remember from Grade 4 Christian History class that the Joos killed Jesus Christ and the cowards never even freakin apologized.

While it is an open and shut case the Joos sunk the RMS Titanic the argument is not so clear for WWII. After all both Hitler and Stalin were noted anti-semmites. It is worth noting they both were atheists and like atheists. They were also into eugenics which calls for the cold blooded murder of non-whites because of the false doctrine of genetics. So the Joos only indirectly caused the war because as Christ killers they were non-white so the atheists wanted to kill them.

[2 Timothy 3:16]

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You think your pretty smart don't you, boy? Well I can't say I like your supercilious attitude.

Not near smart enough to have EVER used "supercilious" in a sentence. Nice work.

How do I know you ain't some Jewboy accountant trying to mock Christians and defend his filthy race??

The same way that I know that you aren't one who is suffering from some weird guilt over his heritage. I don't.

[2 Timothy 3:16]

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Sir,

May I ask, what do you make of these verses, from the Gospel according to Luke?

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
~ Luke 13:34-35

This passage needs to be taken as a whole starting from verse 31.

Luke 13:31 The same day there came certain of the Pharisees, saying unto him, Get thee out, and depart hence: for Herod will kill thee.
Luke 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.
Luke 13:33 Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
Luke 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!
Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

As you see in the context, He is addressing the Pharisees. This is some weeks before the Triumphal Entry. Verse 34 is a lament over the city with the accusation to the Pharisees (the religious leaders) that they would not have Jesus as their King (see John 11:47-53 for support), therefore in verse 35, He declares that the kingdom would not come now (turns out that it will come later), leaving the house “desolate.” He then makes a prophecy of what will happen the next time he enters the city (see John 12:12-13).

And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.
For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.
~ Luke 19:41-44

This is another lament over the city with the prophecy that Jerusalem would be laid waste because of their rejection of Jesus as Messiah. This took place in AD 70 when Rome besieged and overran Jerusalem.

And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
~ Luke 21:20-24

A prophecy of the Tribulation in which God’s wrath is poured out against Israel to the end that all Israel with look upon the one they have pierced and will subsequently be saved. Zechariah 12:10; Romans 12:26.

And as they led him away, they laid hold upon one Simon, a Cyrenian, coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross, that he might bear it after Jesus.
And there followed him a great company of people, and of women, which also bewailed and lamented him.
But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.
For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.
Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?
~ Luke 23:26-31

Respectfully.

Another prophecy of the Tribulation. Revelation 6:16 sees it fulfilled.

None of these verses or passages state that God has broken his covenant with the Jewish people. In fact, again, Romans 11 (basically all of it) is explicit that He has not.

[HTannor]

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I'm very disappointed in this discussion.

I run a "modest" tab down at Goldburg's Discount Liquor and Pawn Shop and have been looking for an excuse to jew him down on the payoff.

Get back to me when you have some proof on how his ancestor's caused the war and then I'll lay a guilt trip on him.

[Sklog Oontermann]

Re: Joos caused WWII

Not too many Jews up north this far, so I haven't had much truck with them. I see quite a bit about them here at your site and I will educate myself some more about them. I remember my dad telling me how they murdered Christ when we studied the Bible together when I was growing up, but we had so many problems with the Canadian government in those days that is pretty much the big villains in my life up to now. I had 2 uncles go to the US and volunteer in WWII, and one of them also went to Korea. Dam I'm proud of them. They both served in the Pacific in the Marines. I know they killed lots of Japs. I remember being a kid and listening to them arguing about which one of them kilt more of them.

I appreciate the info on the Jews and will act accordingly.

[Phoenix]

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This passage needs to be taken as a whole starting from verse 31.

No, Sir, I only wanted to show the sadness of Jesus, peace be upon him. That is why I quoted what I quoted, and no more. It is rare in the Bible that the Christ shed a tear, is it not? And why? Because the Jews would not have him. They still do not. Chosen or not, they still do not. No salvation so far for the Jew, and Jesus, peace be upon him, wept for them, for they were his own people, and he was supposed to save them, and he knew of their terrible fate. And then he died for us all, and they were glad.

And you are some what correct when you say that the Jews are chosen by God, but I wish to understand what you think they are chosen for. It is not important to simply say they are chosen. We are all chosen, who follow the path of the Christ, peace be upon him. We were chosen from the beginning, for God is most wise,

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
~ Ephesians 1:4-6

That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
~ Ephesians 1:10-12

But we do not need to say this. This we know.

So, you mentioned Romans 11, and quoted it,

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
~ Romans 11:25-32

This is partly why I quoted Luke 21:24 which references the Gentiles also,

And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
~ Luke 21:24 .

Until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. The fullness of the Gentiles is when all the people of the world who are to be saved, have been saved. When the last one has been saved, this is the fulfilment. This is the Last Day. The end times. When the time of the Gospel is complete, when all who would hear the Gospel have heard it, and when the Christ, peace be upon him, shall return and rapture his faithful, for there is no more work to be done.

Romans 11 also spells out the fate of the Jews in no uncertain terms, earlier,

Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
~ Romans 11:5-7

The remnant of the nation of Israel are those who are saved, by the Christ, peace be upon him. The election is those saved. The rest, who are blinded, are those not saved. In the Last Day, the elect shall ascend to the Kingdom of God, and the rest shall be judged. None come to God, but by the Christ, for he is the Truth, the Way, and the Light, peace be upon him. The Jews still suffer from the blindness, nothing has changed. God has not forsaken them, no. They have the same chance as all who listened to the Gospel, and believed, if they too believe, for God is most merciful. But they do not believe. They refuse the Word. They are disobedient to the last man.

Here is Romans 10 in its entirety,

Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? ( that is, to bring Christ down from above: )
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? ( that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead. )
But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.
But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
~ Romans 10:1-21

Yes, the Jews are chosen by God. Chosen right now distinctively for Hell, and this is easy for God to do. They are an example. Unless they want to hear the Gospel, their fate is assured. A Jew will not see Heaven until they turn to the Christ, peace be upon him. This is the same for all people.

God has no further plans for the Jews. It is spelled out clearly. This is it. It is do or die for them. There is no more prophecy for them. There is no salvation for the Jew, only the Christian. They have heard the Word, and they care not. The Gospel is the Word, sent through the Christ. Peace be upon him.

Please, correct me if I am wrong on this.

Respectfully.

[Chris The False Christian]

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Not to go Off Topic, but why does a lot of the people here say "Hate"? He Hate's the Jews more then the Nazi's...God teaches us not to Hate...but I guess everything goes here(Except anything Non-Christian)..

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Not to go Off Topic, but why does a lot of the people here say "Hate"? He Hate's the Jews more then the Nazi's...God teaches us not to Hate...but I guess everything goes here(Except anything Non-Christian)..

"Jesus does not hate anyone."

That's not true. God hates the sin AND the sinner, and Jesus is God (John 10:30 I and my Father are one.).

Lev 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

Please read the WHOLE Bible before it's too late.

Before you complain about the the fact that the verses I cited were from the Old Testament, as if that somehow makes them worthless, consider this:

In the Old Testament, it says that God hates "all workers of iniquity" (Ps 5:5).

In the New Testament, what does Jesus say that he is going to do to these workers of iniquity? Is he going to love them? Is he going to be their pal, and tell them that it's ok to be themselves? Let's see...

Matt 13:41-42 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I pray that you have found this enlightening.