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  • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    Well that's typical hatemongering from you atheists. We True Christians™ are full of God's Love, and you demonic atheist scum are full of hatred and anger.

    Have you read our disclaimers yet, boy? You might learn something.
    Did you just call me boy?
    typically that would mean that you are under the impression that you are either older than me or you believe that you are my intellectual superior, seing as you have no idea what my age is (only a fool would post their real birthdate on a website, notice i was born on Christmas ) i can only assume the latter, which is insulting to say the least.

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    • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

      I love this video because it causes one of the most annoying creationist arguments:

      Circular Reasoning

      In this argument the bible can prove itself which is ridiculous.

      This argument also works for The Torah, The Book of Mormon, L. Ron Hubbard's works, and the Quran.

      Frankly this argument can make any religious text true.

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      • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

        Originally posted by Markus View Post
        I love this video because it causes one of the most annoying creationist arguments:

        Circular Reasoning

        In this argument the bible can prove itself which is ridiculous.

        This argument also works for The Torah, The Book of Mormon, L. Ron Hubbard's works, and the Quran.

        Frankly this argument can make any religious text true.
        what an unusual introduction but this is not the place for it. Let me show you the way. Also here are a couple of interesting threads you really should read. Noobs read this. Your rights are listed here. Make an Introduction for yourself.Noobs read this.

        Your rights are listed here.

        Make an Introduction for yourself. As a suggestion why not tell us what your favorite bible verse is and how you found our Godly forum.
        sigpic 1 Chronicles 16:15
        Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations ... an everlasting covenant.
        Proverbs 30:5,6: Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
        Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

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        • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

          I appreciate the infraction.
          I am agnostic and I came to this site and noticed a proof god is real thread.
          Obviously this tempted me to click it because well I would like to see proof that he is real...
          but apparently I get a infraction for being able to state my thoughts about this "proof" because my thoughts were not positive towards the thread subject.


          I was hoping for a decent discussion because I am not biased but you know what? Forget it.

          Spread the word of god yet you only allow positive support of the subject at hand?

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          • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

            Originally posted by Markus View Post
            I appreciate the infraction.
            I am agnostic and I came to this site and noticed a proof god is real thread.
            Obviously this tempted me to click it because well I would like to see proof that he is real...
            but apparently I get a infraction for being able to state my thoughts about this "proof" because my thoughts were not positive towards the thread subject.


            I was hoping for a decent discussion because I am not biased but you know what? Forget it.

            Spread the word of god yet you only allow positive support of the subject at hand?
            Well This is a Forum to Glorify the Works of God, not a site for people to come through and flame our beliefs. Would you like to testify on his Greatness?
            sigpic 1 Chronicles 16:15
            Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations ... an everlasting covenant.
            Proverbs 30:5,6: Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
            Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

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            • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

              You know everything he says bad about atheists goes the same for you christians. He says that we are told there is no god, and fall into line like sheep and do as we're told without questioning it. It is just what we are told and have to believe. Man that sure does sound identical to all religions. As a child we're told there is a god. Here's a book which proves it. Never mind that ANYONE could write a book and claim it as true. Whenever questioned, they are always referred to the book. (Whichever version they are claiming to be the truth) So, like sheep you march through life believing what you were told was true and not questioning it for a second. WOW!!!

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              • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

                Originally posted by god is a lie View Post
                notice i was born on Christmas ) .
                WOW!!! You must be jesus!! You should write a book and make your own bullshit religion! All you have to do is write in it that this book is the truth and no one can EVER dispute it!

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                • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

                  Originally posted by iluvdarwin View Post
                  Childish rant
                  Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
                  Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
                  Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
                  Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
                  Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
                  Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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                  • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

                    If god was proven real everyone would go to hell because to go to heaven you need to have faith. Faith = belief without proof of existence. If god was proven real no one would have faith in god they would believe in him because he would be real. But since god is entirely false no one has to worry. Death is a natural occurrence.

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                    • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

                      Originally posted by Theatheist666 View Post
                      If god was proven real everyone would go to hell because to go to heaven you need to have faith. Faith = belief without proof of existence. If god was proven real no one would have faith in god they would believe in him because he would be real. But since god is entirely false no one has to worry. Death is a natural occurrence.
                      Indeed, we would not need FAITH if god was PROVEN by your blaspheming scientific standards - scientific standards that are CLEARLY prophesied in biblical revelation as LIES AND APOSTASY.

                      Matthew 7: 15-20
                      “Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves. You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act. Can you pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit. 18 A good tree can’t produce bad fruit, and a bad tree can’t produce good fruit. So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire. Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions."

                      But, since GOD's not illustrated in your heretical methods of defining reality, we NEED faith in HIS IRREFUTABLE WORD - the 1611 K.J. Bible; to assert that GOD is VERY REAL. And, thusly, so is HELL.

                      I hope you enjoy warmer climates.
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                      • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

                        Originally posted by CyberYahweh View Post
                        Indeed, we would not need FAITH if god was PROVEN by your blaspheming scientific standards - scientific standards that are CLEARLY prophesied in biblical revelation as LIES AND APOSTASY.

                        Matthew 7: 15-20
                        “Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves. You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act. Can you pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit. 18 A good tree can’t produce bad fruit, and a bad tree can’t produce good fruit. So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire. Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions."

                        But, since GOD's not illustrated in your heretical methods of defining reality, we NEED faith in HIS IRREFUTABLE WORD - the 1611 K.J. Bible; to assert that GOD is VERY REAL. And, thusly, so is HELL.

                        I hope you enjoy warmer climates.
                        Question for ya, how do you intend to win an argument against an atheist by citing the Bible if he doesn't even believe in it? You can't beat an atheist with scripture if he doesn't believe in it, you must do it with logic.

                        Let me drill you with one of their arguments:
                        1. God is omnibenevolent and could create a world without evil.
                        2. God is omnipotent and would want to get rid of evil.
                        3. Evil exists
                        __________________________________________________ ______
                        4. God does not exist.


                        Go.

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                        • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

                          Argue? If I was arguing, it would insinuate that I wasn't secure in my Faith. No, I'm simply rebuking fools, such as yourself, who feel the need to parade around babbling on about how much you desire to be tossed into the lake of fire.

                          The apostles (St. Paul, in the verse below)tell us to rebuke and chastise the sinner, such as youself:

                          2 Timothy 4:2 2
                          "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
                          "

                          And why wouldn't I use the Bible to do this? The burden of proof rests with you - as the Bible's already consecrated in its infallibility, beyond your comprehension:

                          Psalm 19:7-9
                          "The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes. The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether."


                          Paul even goes on to reiterate this, to Timothy:

                          2 Tim 3:16
                          "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness."

                          Furthermore, your (good/evil)morals are based on your own arrogant empathy; and have no foundation. What is good and evil by your standards, is not what God's written word(the root and foundation of all morals) - your definitions of good and evil aren't correct; so you're coming into the question blindly. As for sin(true evil) - it exists to tempt us and test us, so that we may rebuke it; as I'm doing to you now.

                          You're in grave danger of roasting in hell, my friend. I'm entertaining your wretchedness for now, but God will be much less enamored when you try to lay your "logic" on him, come judgment day.

                          Either repent openly, or remain as your namesake suggests; silent.
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                          • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

                            Originally posted by Silent View Post
                            Question for ya, how do you intend to win an argument against an atheist by citing the Bible if he doesn't even believe in it? You can't beat an atheist with scripture if he doesn't believe in it, you must do it with logic.

                            Let me drill you with one of their arguments:
                            1. God is omnibenevolent and could create a world without evil.
                            2. God is omnipotent and would want to get rid of evil.
                            3. Evil exists
                            __________________________________________________ ______
                            4. God does not exist.


                            Go.
                            And I'll give you an old Scottish saying.

                            What's good for the fox is bad for the goose.

                            First of all God created evil

                            Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

                            Second, you people always come on here demanding that we know the mind of God. I don't know why God does what he does, I just know that he's given us a life manual to follow.
                            Drama queen

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                            • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

                              First off, I would like to say that I believe in intelligent design. Also, it is not the same as creation. Please don't respond with something stupid saying its the same. I'm just going to laugh at you. Research on it before you think it is.

                              Saying that, I don't understand how can an all powerful, all knowing and all GOOD god create evil. I understand within choice, lies good and evil, but It would not make sense for God to do this since his his main property is "All Good". Evil would not be able to be created, thus making God a contradiction, and making him false no?

                              Also, the bible. A lot of people seem to take the book beyond the word of "serious". Okay, people believe god wrote it, fair enough. However, have you seen god before? Have you meet him, heard him speak, seen him and so on. Did anyone really see the man sit down and write this said book? If I wrote a book close to or even 100% like god's book, died and then 2000 years later people find my book, do you think you would not find doubters or nonbelievers? I think so.

                              To people who criticize those who don't believe in it, your clearly not open minded and are blind behind something that has not been prove to be absolute nor false. In other words, its within the reader to believe what she or he wants to believe.

                              I don't believe in the bible, don't believe it is the true word of god and don't believe god sat down and wrote it. I do however, believe it was made by someone else to help others follow a peaceful life. Like others said on this board, a manual of some sort.

                              I feel someone shoving down my throat the idea of it being the actually words of god is not true reasoning. Saying God did this, God did that is one thing, I could listen to that although I may or may not believe it. Saying the Bible is 100% the actually words of a being which isn't present at this moment and or hasn't in a long time or ever is another.

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                              • Re: PROOF God is REAL!

                                Originally posted by manuel1988 View Post
                                Saying that, I don't understand how can an all powerful, all knowing and all GOOD god create evil. I understand within choice, lies good and evil, but It would not make sense for God to do this since his his main property is "All Good". Evil would not be able to be created, thus making God a contradiction, and making him false no?
                                This is because you are a false Christian who only pays lip service to the Holy Bible rather than reading God's Word and living your life in accordance. If you were a True Christian™ who abides by the Word of God, then you would know that God does create evil.

                                Isaiah 45:7
                                I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

                                Amos 3:6
                                Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?


                                But since you are an apostate cherry-picking "Christian", you ignore the parts of the Bible that don't fit into your preconceived narrative, correct? You do not follow the Word of God; you follow a false Christ which exists only in your deluded imagination.

                                Matthew 24:24
                                For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


                                Son, this earthly life is short. We are all going to pass from this life into the next, and we go to one of two places. I am assured a place in Heaven because I follow the Word of God to the letter. You, however, are deceived by the devil, and if you don't turn your life around while you still have a chance, you are going to spend eternity thrashing around in a pit of magma and human feces, gnashing your teeth together so hard that they shatter, screaming in agony until your eyes bleed.

                                We do not want this for you. We want you to spend eternity with us, pressed against the bosom of Jesus. Thusly, I exhort you to repent of your wicked ways and seek His face.

                                Also, the bible. A lot of people seem to take the book beyond the word of "serious". Okay, people believe god wrote it, fair enough. However, have you seen god before? Have you meet him, heard him speak, seen him and so on. Did anyone really see the man sit down and write this said book? If I wrote a book close to or even 100% like god's book, died and then 2000 years later people find my book, do you think you would not find doubters or nonbelievers? I think so.
                                I speak with God many times every day. He left His Word for us, and we know it is True™ because He tells us it is.

                                I Peter 1:23-25
                                Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God which liveth and abideth forever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
                                But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

                                II Timothy 3:16
                                All scripture
                                is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


                                To people who criticize those who don't believe in it, your clearly not open minded and are blind behind something that has not been prove to be absolute nor false. In other words, its within the reader to believe what she or he wants to believe.
                                And this is why you are on the path to eternal hellfire.

                                God has given us free will, and it is up to us whether we will spend our lives glorifying Him and enjoy the bliss of Heaven for all eternity or whether we will live lives of indulgence, hedonism, and depravity which will ultimately land us in the lake of fire, tormented for all eternity. Do you understand the concept of eternity, son?

                                I don't believe in the bible, don't believe it is the true word of god and don't believe god sat down and wrote it. I do however, believe it was made by someone else to help others follow a peaceful life. Like others said on this board, a manual of some sort.
                                Strange that you don't believe in the Bible. Even the most empirically minded secular "scientist" would be hard-pressed to deny the existence of the #1 top-selling book EVER.

                                Of course God did not write the Bible in His Own Hand. He clearly tells us that He moved the authors through the Holy Ghost.

                                II Peter 1:21
                                For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


                                The authors themselves clearly say that God told them what to write.

                                Habbakuk 2:2
                                And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.


                                I feel someone shoving down my throat the idea of it being the actually words of god is not true reasoning. Saying God did this, God did that is one thing, I could listen to that although I may or may not believe it. Saying the Bible is 100% the actually words of a being which isn't present at this moment and or hasn't in a long time or ever is another.
                                So you deny the omnipresence of the Holy Ghost? There is only one unforgivable sin, and that is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost.

                                Matthew 12:31
                                Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

                                It is not us who shove things down peoples' throats. It is atheofascists and false deceivers such as yourself who concoct your own version of morality not in accordance with the Word of God. Evildoers such as yourself are not satisfied to walk down the path of wantonness and depredation, damning yourselves to eternity in the lake of fire; you are compelled by the demons that dwell in your rectum to drag Jesus' elect with you.

                                Too bad for you, wicked little man. This forum is the home of True Christians™, and we will not fall prey to your wicked deceptions.

                                IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, I REBUKE YOU!
                                II Thessalonians 1:7-9
                                And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
                                In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
                                Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



                                The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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