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  • Nobar King
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Originally posted by IBelieveInMyself View Post
    I just can't believe how you people can live like this, believing EVERYTHING what's written in that outdated old book, and to come to this day when everything around you is pure science ! The laptop you type from, the phone you're using, the medicine you're taking when you're ill....
    I haven't been sick since I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.

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  • IBelieveInMyself
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    I just can't believe how you people can live like this, believing EVERYTHING what's written in that outdated old book, and to come to this day when everything around you is pure science ! The laptop you type from, the phone you're using, the medicine you're taking when you're ill....even the fact that you drive your car, you go telling people the earth is only 6000 years old, but on your way back home you fill your tank with fossil fuel. Let me just say how ignorant you are and how thick is the rock you're living under to believe the sun is only 500miles away.....first off you christians keep on posting a picture where the earth is flat, the sun and the mood are glued on the underside of the firmament (whatever that may be, nobody ever saw it), but in the same time you all say the sun goes around the earth. Well, which is true ? The sun goes around the earth, or is it fixed on the firmament ? If it is fixed, does that mean that the firmament is rotating thus everything is rotating (moon, stars) around the earth ? So the distance between to sun and the mood is the same at any given time ? And another thing, if you say the sun is 500miles away, how come when the sun rises on one part of the world, it sets on the other part of the world ? How is this possible on a flat earth ? Also explain this : if you claim the sun has a diameter of 32miles, when he rises in Japan, then in Europe, which is a good 4000miles away, that means the sun is 4500 mile away ? Do you imagine how small a 32miles ball would appear from a distance of 4500miles ?
    And let me clear something up to those who keep on asking how can we see the sun if it was 95million miles away, but we cannot see the lights of New York form England : YOUR EYES DO NOT EMIT VISION ! Your eyes do not emit anything in fact, you only see light that REACHES your eyes, that means if a light is strong enough to reach you, you will see it. The light New York emits does not reach England for you to see it, got that ?
    See, it's quite funny how you all try to explain what we've come to know about the world today using a book that's 2000 old, when people didn't know as much as we know today, when people were mesmerized by a "shooting star", by a lightning or by an eclipse. Oh, and speaking of eclipse, if the sun and the mood were fixed on the SAME firmament, how can you explain the eclipse ?
    If you believe it or not, I have read the entire thread, all 127 pages of it, and I truly expect you to not answer any of my questions, but simply say "it's not in the bible, we do not care".
    Hoping for someone that firmly believes in the bible has the courtesy to let everything aside and come for an open discussion, THAT would show that you care, show that you want to spread your maker's word and explain everything I wrote using logic.
    All other "unsaved trash" are welcome to sustain or disapprove me.

    Greetings from Transylvania (no, not kidding).

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  • Rev. M. Rodimer
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Originally posted by God'sevolution View Post
    If moon is meant to rule the night why can you see it occasionally during the day?
    My good Sister Mitza explained it quite adequately, but I suppose I will need to adjust her analogy so it's clearer for you.

    Raul Castro rules Cuba. (In case you are utterly clueless about current events, Fidel Castro died in April.)

    Suppose Raul Castro visits Venezuela. Does he then rule Venezuela? No. He is merely a visitor, or a guest. He still rules Cuba, even though you see him in Venezuela.

    Likewise, the moon rules the night. If you see it in daytime, that doesn't mean it rules the daytime. It's merely a visitor, or a guest.

    Understand?

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  • Redeemed Papist
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Originally posted by God'sevolution View Post
    New Moon can be less bright than Jupiter. Does this mean that Jupiter can also "rule" the sky?
    Does God have the slightest thing to say on the subject?

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  • Alphonse Alban
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Originally posted by God'sevolution View Post
    New Moon can be less bright than Jupiter.
    Sure

    Care to say when again is this magical night when light generated by Jupiter gives more light in the darkness of a night than light created by moon? I live quite far up in north, so I know the darkness.

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  • God'sevolution
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post

    Genesis 1:16

    And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

    There is no problem here.

    By 'rule' God clearly meant to be the brightest. During the day the Sun 'rules' even when the moon is present. During the night the moon 'rules' as it is the brightest object.

    2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    YIC

    Jack
    New Moon can be less bright than Jupiter. Does this mean that Jupiter can also "rule" the sky?

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  • Wide-Open
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Originally posted by dicker View Post
    Not in England he didn't mate, more a kind of Grey Black colour.
    He probably didn't want it to clash with the dental colors of the locals.

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  • dicker
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
    But God DID make the sky blue.

    Not in England he didn't mate, more a kind of Grey Black colour.

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  • Redeemed Papist
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    But God DID make the sky blue.

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  • dicker
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
    If God says that's what the moon is for then that's what the moon is for.
    Jack, RP credited me with no intelligence, he just said the above.

    In fact, his answer is more like one given to a child than yours, e.g.


    Mummy, why's the sky blue?

    Because God made it blue and that's why.

    Now I'm questioning your intelligence, you give a logical answer then a blatant attempt to troll, shouldn't you have a good cop bad cop routine?

    Your smileys say Ex Brit, true american? how does that even work?
    Did you marry Bruce Willis or Ronald McDonald and get a green card out of it?

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  • Jack O'fagan
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Originally posted by dicker View Post
    Thank you Jack, finally a sensible answer.


    Redeemed papist, how do you think your answer helps at all?

    It's basically, 'cos I said so' or 'it just is ok'

    That's how parents talk to their kids, you claim everything can be backed up with scripture so stop with the 'God said it's so, so it is'

    Take a leaf out of Jack's book, his answer made sense, you'll just alienate people with your condescending attitude
    All I did was explain it as if I was talking to a small child. Redeemed Papist just credited you with more intelligence than you deserved. That was his only error.

    YIC

    Jack

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  • Redeemed Papist
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Originally posted by dicker View Post
    Thank you Jack, finally a sensible answer.


    Redeemed papist, how do you think your answer helps at all?

    It's basically, 'cos I said so' or 'it just is ok'

    That's how parents talk to their kids, you claim everything can be backed up with scripture so stop with the 'God said it's so, so it is'

    Take a leaf out of Jack's book, his answer made sense, you'll just alienate people with your condescending attitude
    The answer doesn't have to make sense to you, it just has to be true.

    Genesis 1
    16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

    That's why God made the moon. It's all there written down so a child could understand it.

    Oh look, the answer is the same as the one I gave a few posts up THAT YOU COULDN'T BE BOTHERED TO READ.

    And God did say so, and it had better be OK or He will burn you forever. There is no pretence with God - He cannot be trolled.

    1 Samuel 16:7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.

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  • dicker
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    I just don't like getting fobbed off James, answers like 'Because God says so'
    and 'Anything's possible with Jesus' are too ambigious, feel like I'm being talked to like you would a child.

    The scripture quoted made perfect sense so we are in 100% agreement on this one!


    Praise Jesus.

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  • James Hutchins
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Originally posted by dicker View Post
    Thank you Jack, finally a sensible answer.


    Redeemed papist, how do you think your answer helps at all?

    It's basically, 'cos I said so' or 'it just is ok'

    That's how parents talk to their kids, you claim everything can be backed up with scripture so stop with the 'God said it's so, so it is'

    Take a leaf out of Jack's book, his answer made sense, you'll just alienate people with your condescending attitude
    Tell me dick, isn't it true it was all backed up by scripture, the inerrant Word of God(r)?

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  • dicker
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    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Thank you Jack, finally a sensible answer.


    Redeemed papist, how do you think your answer helps at all?

    It's basically, 'cos I said so' or 'it just is ok'

    That's how parents talk to their kids, you claim everything can be backed up with scripture so stop with the 'God said it's so, so it is'

    Take a leaf out of Jack's book, his answer made sense, you'll just alienate people with your condescending attitude

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