[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

tl;dr.

Read the entire thread. All your silly questions and 'proof' have been throughly rebuked.

This forum is about the Majesty of God(c), not secular lies.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Ptejohnmorgan, we may have different views but as a fellow Englishman I truly thank you for your bravery and for what you are doing for my country. You are a better man than I. I hope your version of God looks after you.

Plug. You say that satellites orbit between 0 and 1240 miles above the earth. Is that 5 miles up? Do aircraft have to dodge them? Sunflares regularly knock out satellite communications. Do you think this is possible from millions of miles away? No of course not. It's because they get roasted when they get with in a few hundred yards of the surface of the sun. Can you really not understand this??

Jack

[Hydros]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Thats weird james, i don't remeber writing 'tl;dr.'

"All your silly questions and 'proof' have been throughly rebuked."

Which is why I didn't wanna start listing it, because as i've already said- you've probably already heard it, and even if it did make 100% sense, you guys still wouldn't get it or would outright deny it.

And to Jack O'fagan (I am also English btw ) What makes you say it is impossible? Do you understand how solar flares work? It is not the flare itself that hits the earth, it is the x-ray and uv radiation emitted from it.

I don't think you quite grasp the size and magnitude of the sun, it is more than powerful enough to send stuff our way over millions of miles (light and heat for example)

You just think of the fire of a candle- you have to have your finger right up close to feel it's heat. Now think of the fire of the sun, it is millions of miles away and the heat has to travel through the depths of space at absolute zero and yet it still heats plarts of the earth up to nearly 58°C

But then that's nuclear power for ya.

[razor89]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Don't know if anyone has already mentioned this already given this thread is 88 pages long.

Going back to the very first post. If you're going to use the science so many of you seem to refute, to attempt to prove your beliefs, can you please use it properly.

You first use Wien's Displacement Law to find the temperature of the sun, which is fine. The problem arises with your next calculation, using a temperature gradient model which, if true, would have to be hottest closest to the sun, coldest at the earth's surface; yet the temperature gradient you use (6K/km) has been measured to be the other way round (Temp drops the further from the Earth's surface). Even if you ignore this problem, the linear model you use implies either:

-The earth's atmosphere has to be uniform in every way, it's the only way the radiation absorption of the atmosphere can be the same at any height. We know this isn't true as the atmosphere is thinner the higher up you go.

-The sun's energy is not transferred via radiation (I have noticed some of you believe this to be true) in which case you can't use Wien's displacement Law as it is based on a perfect radiation emission spectrum.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles awaysee

If we are being bombarded by xrays why can't I see my bones?

[razor89]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles awaysee

If we are being bombarded by xrays why can't I see my bones?

Because your eyes can only detect the colour light spectrum, which is a very narrow band of the full Electromagnetic spectrum. X-Rays are not in the colour light spectrum, so your eyes cannot detect them. Bones absorb X-Rays well, so what you see on X-Ray scans is an inverted image taken by a camera that CAN detect X-Rays.

[Premiumsteak]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

As this post is 80 something odd pages long could someone give me a brief summary of how we have prooven the earth is 500 plus or minus a few miles away from earth. This would be great as I have a unbelieving classmate.

[Hydros]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles awaysee

If we are being bombarded by xrays why can't I see my bones?

Sigh..

I'm not even gonna answer that one.

Have you ever been for an x-ray and been able to see your bones with your own eyes the moment the x-ray machine was turned on? Because I certainly haven't.

[Hydros]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

As this post is 80 something odd pages long could someone give me a brief summary of how we have prooven the earth is 500 plus or minus a few miles away from earth. This would be great as I have a unbelieving classmate.

In a nutshell mate, it hasn't been proven at all, in fact quite the opposite.

Just google 'Distance of the earth from the sun' to get a better idea of what real distance we are talking about, and why.

[razor89]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I've done a little more ciphering, and I've figured out how big the sun is.

With a focal point of 1 meter, the sun appears to have a radius of 1 cm. We can use this information to calculate the angular degrees.

x = 1.000 m
y = 0.010 m
Θ = arctan(0.010/1) = 0.573°

So, given that we know that the distance to the sun is 791.9 km, we can find the radius like this:

791.933 km = r * cos(0.573°)
791.933/cos(0.573) = r
r = 791.973

y = 791.973 * sin(0.573)
y = 7.919 km

The radius of the sun is 7.919 km, which means it is about 10 miles across.

A ten-mile ball of fire! No wonder the sun is so hot! The firmament must be made out of some super strong material to be able to withstand being so close to such a thing for 6,000 years. Can you imagine if our troops had body armor made out of that stuff?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

My previous post also means this calculation cannot be correct as it uses the distance to the sun you found in your original calculation.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

In a nutshell mate, it hasn't been proven at all, in fact quite the opposite.

Just google 'Distance of the earth from the sun' to get a better idea of what real distance we are talking about, and why.

We have the maths here. A reply of "It's wrong- because SHUT UP" doesn't count.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

As this post is 80 something odd pages long could someone give me a brief summary of how we have prooven the earth is 500 plus or minus a few miles away from earth. This would be great as I have a unbelieving classmate.

The original post of this thread has the information you need. Good luck with your God mocking classmate.

[razor89]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

We have the maths here. A reply of "It's wrong- because SHUT UP" doesn't count.

The science and maths used at the beginning of this thread is flawed. You can't use it as proof.

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I find it interesting that all these people use 'theories' to come up with these outlandish claims. God created the Heavens and the Earth. The Sun and the Moon and all above. So He ought to know the distance.
I have yet to find or hear of a single person who actually measured the distance. Well there is one, that is God. Everybody else guesses. They try to talk about the speed of light (that everyone knows is instantaneous) and how long it takes a sunbeam to get to Earth. I'd love to see a couple of guys with a stop watch do that!
Others state that X=Y so therefore Z, what a load of bull. Get a measuring tape and prove it. Until then, I am going to take the word of the guy that is responsible for everything.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The science and maths used at the beginning of this thread is flawed. You can't use it as proof.

You forget direct observation which we can both do.

Answer me this question; if the Sun is really 92,935,700 miles as the Far Sun Hypothesis says then how can the Sun get around the earth in 24 hours?