[TC Patriot]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

Would it be better to shoot them or harpoon them?

[SayvedByTheLord]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

You might also add Brother Bathfire that we are allowed to fly our flag higher than the Federal one.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

Just being curious, who is the mayor of Freehold? I can't seem to find out where Freehold is in Iowa, I'm afraid. And if I may ask, can you tell me which code of the law allows you to do such things? I tried to research it a little and could only find this:

http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/statestatutes/stusiaset.htm

(for basic animal laws in Iowa)

http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/statestatutes/stusiaset.htm

(rulings just on dolphins in the U.S.)

All well and good for ordinary people, indeed for Non-Christians, but read this little bit of history

[Nobar King]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

Jesse, you seem to really care about these manatees. If you only cared about the humans in your life as much, Jesus would be more pleased.

[jessev]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

in Leviticus 11:13, it says that they shall be regarded as an abomination to you, not unto the Lord. The reason being that many creatures that do not have fins and scales are often poisonous to us, so it would not be wise to eat them. But it does not mean that they are an abomination to the earth or to the Lord. If they were, then why would he allow them to live on this earth?

Manatees have fins as I recall. Live in the water? Yep. Do they have scales? No. They are an abomination unto the Lord.

[jessev]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

Just being curious, who is the mayor of Freehold? I can't seem to find out where Freehold is in Iowa, I'm afraid. And if I may ask, can you tell me which code of the law allows you to do such things? I tried to research it a little and could only find this:

http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/statestatutes/stusiaset.htm

(for basic animal laws in Iowa)

http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/statestatutes/stusiaset.htm

(rulings just on dolphins in the U.S.)

Wrong again Mr. Collegeboy Know-it-all. Here in Freehold, Iowa it is perfectly legal to kill dolphins.

In fact, we are allowed to kill, eat, play with or wear any animal we want. We follow God's rules, not some hippie nonsense from the nazi's at PETA.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

as far as I'm aware, manatees neither have cloven hooves nor chew their cud. Thus does not qualify your definition. Besides this whole passage is about not eating these creatures because they are unclean. It makes sense though. As even in ancient times, people knew what foods were good and which ones were not so good. So, it seems natural that anyone would want to pass that knowledge on.

And I was not referring to the black market as referring to your 'friend' there. Will you stop taking everything as being literal. The 'black market' does not mean a market that is black. I think you understand what I'm really talking about. And with your experiments, all you've proven is that you are capable of killing an animal....a rather intelligent animal at that. And a creature can still be considered 'wet' and be dehydrated. Just because you're dehydrated does not mean you have 'no' water in you. It just means that you do not have enough to survive on. All living things require a certain amount of water in their systems. It helps regulate body temperature. Especially in a dolphin's case, they can die from hyperthermia if stuck on the land in that kind of heat as well. Their bodies are made to hold in heat, not expell it.

And the claims about genes is not just rubbish. Your genes do not spontaneously mutate in an hour. It just doesn't happen that way. Genetic change would happen by generations, not by minutes.

Manatees have fins as I recall. Live in the water? Yep. Do they have scales? No. They are an abomination unto the Lord.

[jessev]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

as far as I'm aware, manatees neither have cloven hooves nor chew their cud. Thus does not qualify your definition. Besides this whole passage is about not eating these creatures because they are unclean. It makes sense though. As even in ancient times, people knew what foods were good and which ones were not so good. So, it seems natural that anyone would want to pass that knowledge on.

And I was not referring to the black market as referring to your 'friend' there. Will you stop taking everything as being literal. The 'black market' does not mean a market that is black. I think you understand what I'm really talking about. And with your experiments, all you've proven is that you are capable of killing an animal....a rather intelligent animal at that. And a creature can still be considered 'wet' and be dehydrated. Just because you're dehydrated does not mean you have 'no' water in you. It just means that you do not have enough to survive on. All living things require a certain amount of water in their systems. It helps regulate body temperature. Especially in a dolphin's case, they can die from hyperthermia if stuck on the land in that kind of heat as well. Their bodies are made to hold in heat, not expell it.

And the claims about genes is not just rubbish. Your genes do not spontaneously mutate in an hour. It just doesn't happen that way. Genetic change would happen by generations, not by minutes.

Le:11:5: And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. The coney is, of course, the hyrax. It is clear therefore that they are unclean because they are possessed by demons and, as such are "of the devil".Mr Omashiri is a slant fisherman and not black at all - sort of yellow... They are dead aren't they - at least something has been proven.So all these claims of a mutation of genes are rubbish? That's what we creationists say! I think not! They were plenty wet (and smelly) when we cut them up!

[Mr. Jingles]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

Wrong again Mr. Collegeboy Know-it-all. Here in Freehold, Iowa it is perfectly legal to kill dolphins.

In fact, we are allowed to kill, eat, play with or wear any animal we want. We follow God's rules, not some hippie nonsense from the nazi's at PETA.

Freehold is truly a paradise; I especially enjoy whale-meat sandwiches; don't you, Zeke?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

Just so you know, I hope you realize that it's highly illegal to kill dolphins or manatees in the United States. Whether you choose to believe this or care about it is your concern.

Wrong again Mr. Collegeboy Know-it-all. Here in Freehold, Iowa it is perfectly legal to kill dolphins.

In fact, we are allowed to kill, eat, play with or wear any animal we want. We follow God's rules, not some hippie nonsense from the nazis at PETA.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

[...]And also, manatees are not at all related to pigs. They're more closely related to elephants and the Hyrax.

Le:11:5: And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. The coney is, of course, the hyrax. It is clear therefore that they are unclean because they are possessed by demons and, as such are "of the devil".

Also, if you actually managed to obtain several dolphins (which I have reason to disbelieve unless somehow recieved through the black market)

Mr Omashiri is a slant fisherman and not black at all - sort of yellow...

it's absurd for someone to believe that sticking a dolphin out in the desert proves anything.

They are dead aren't they - at least something has been proven.

Evolution is not just a spontaneous thing that happens to a creature in a few minutes.

So all these claims of a mutation of genes are rubbish? That's what we creationists say!

And dolphins would not die of suffocation, but rather by dehydration

I think not! They were plenty wet (and smelly) when we cut them up!

[jessev]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

Just so you know, I hope you realize that it's highly illegal to kill dolphins or manatees in the United States. Whether you choose to believe this or care about it is your concern.

On another matter, there is no evidence that manatees actually eat meat at all.You can speculate it. And blame them for something happening. But based on observation, that's never been seen. It is true that they will wade up onto a shore to get at some of the grass. But they cannot travel over land very well at all. And also, manatees are not at all related to pigs. They're more closely related to elephants and the Hyrax.

Also, if you actually managed to obtain several dolphins (which I have reason to disbelieve unless somehow recieved through the black market), it's absurd for someone to believe that sticking a dolphin out in the desert proves anything. That's like if someone put you out in the antarctic without clothes. See how long you would survive there. Evolution is not just a spontaneous thing that happens to a creature in a few minutes. It's never been suggested that it ever has been. And dolphins would not die of suffocation, but rather by dehydration and by the crushing of their internal organs. That's typically what kills most whales and dolphins that beach themselves.

I have studied dolphins quite extensively. I know quite a bit about them. Please try reading things from more credible sources than 40 year old stories from a 3rd world country's village. That is not proof of anything at all.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

you stupid, ignorant piffleing lunatics.

you are racist, sexist, and just piffleing insane.

piffle religion, and all that shit, that has done NOTHING good for the planet earth. but, in a manatee is "gods creature" as you put it. you hippocritical pieces of anti-semetic, right wing psychopathic clansmen.

Anti-Semitic? Are you trying to claim kikes and manatees are the same thing? I can see how you'd get confused by that whole thing the yids do where they kidnap Christian babies to make matzoh with, but I've studied several Jews at close range and I can assure you they are 100% not manatees. I think you should apologise to the penny-pinching Christ-killers for saying such hateful things about them.

[Nobar King]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

Barbed wire nets should work nicely. Who makes those, the Jamaicans? They're pretty tough to make, so they cost a bit more, and shipping them is tough, but they sure do the job.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Stop Manatees Now!

Wait until nighttime when they come out of the water to hunt babies and do it then.

We tried to catch them on land, but they're quite wiley and far more agile out of the water than you might think from looking at them. We lost 10 or 15 bait babies in the traps last summer, without catching a single manatee, so we decided it's only practical to go after them in the water. Some doubting Thomases said it was alligators that took the babies, not manatees, but we True Christians(TM) know what really happened.