[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

So, they ARE dinosaurs.

Again, you're flat-out wrong, and a quick search of Joogle proves this quite easily. Let's see what your beloved WiccanPedophilia has to say...

"Pterosaurs are sometimes referred to in the popular media as dinosaurs, but this is incorrect. The term "dinosaur" is more correctly restricted to a certain group of terrestrial reptiles with a unique upright stance (superorder Dinosauria), and therefore excludes the pterosaurs, as well as the various groups of extinct aquatic reptiles, such as ichthyosaurs, plesiosaurs, and mosasaurs."

Here's a quote from About.com, a source highly respected in the secular web community:

"Pterosaurs were not dinosaurs, but a family of large flying reptiles ("pterosaur" means "winged lizard") that includes the pterodactyl and pteranodon."

Pretty straightforward stuff. And Answers in Genesis, a far more reputable and God-respecting source, states the following:

"These [unfossilized dinosaur bone] discoveries clearly indicate that dinosaurs were around recently. It is possible too that some of those huge flying reptiles, the pterosaurs, also survived Noah’s Flood and lived into recent times."

Nice try, though. Even if you were correct, you'd merely have proven yourself a stringent semantician, and the veracity of my discovery would still go undiminished. Got any other arguments you'd like me to demolish?

[Brother V]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

The carbonpercentage was constant..
So you say that the earth has grown for all those years?

How can the carbon percentage stay constant over 65 million years, when every 6 thousand years it reaches it's halflife?

According to "science", every 6 thousand years all the carbon in the world decays into half the amount there was before (do you agree or disagree) if that's the case, then every 6 thousand years, there's half as much.

But you say that the percentage is still the same? What are you some kind of atheist creationist? That suddenly matter can appear out of nowhere and fill the void that was left by the previously decayed carbon?

Your statements make no sense whatsoever!

Science is just plain foolish-ness.

Do you know what is really interesting?

Is that the halflife of that carbon is almost the same number as what?

That's right, THE DAY THE EARTH WAS CREATED BY GOD!

coincidence?

YIC
V

[G-Baby]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

How do you know this to be true?
Evidence..

You believe what someone (ScIeNtists) told you.
Yes, we do, because ScIeNtists have proven that the're right.. And I believe only something I can see the results of, something that is logic..
I've never seen Jezus, or God "himself" (ooooooh.. ) (and certainly not taking me to hell.. )

How is time measured? How do you know fossils are 65 million years old?
Simple answer: CHRONOMETER (oooooh a chronometer ) How do we know that, another simple answer: REASEARCH

Radiocarbon dating?

According to wikipedia
AAAAAAAAAAH! FINALY! A CONTRADICTION ON YOUR OWN FORUM!
I remember that you guys told me and my "intellegent" () buddies that Wikipedia is an unreliable source for information, because some "satanists" (like you called them...) change the truth..

Well, where do you get the 65 million year date?
Like I mentioned, research. Undenieable testresults that you see for "false". Come on, open your eyes..

Lets do a simple expiriment in math.
I thought you hated those things..

According to Secular web site

there is this much carbon In Earth's Crust (mg/kg) 2.00×102. =200

Further...

You are claiming dinosaurs lived 65 million years ago. If this were the case. Then all the carbon in the world has split in half 11343.804537521815008726003490401 times.

Lets just say... 10000 times.

Ok, more math.

2*2=4
4*2=8
8*2=16;32;64;128;256;512;1024;2048;4096......

That's only 11 half lives there and it's up to nearly 5000x10(2)(mg/kg)

How big was the earth back then?
The carbonpercentage was constant..
So you say that the earth has grown for all those years?


biggest star


So how big is our sun?

2 x 10(30) kg. = 2,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

After if we take the mass of carbon up to 105 previous half lives, we get this number.

633,825,300,114,114,700,748,351,602,688

That's only 601,650 years.

Tell me that you still believe in science.
Yes I do, 'cause you people say that god created the earth 6000 years ago.. and you were counting to 601,650 years, I think thats a little bit more than 6000, so another contradiction..

PS: Right, how can we believe that "prove" if you took it from something (wikipedia) you said is untrue..

YIC
V

And euhm, you guys say that a Pterosaur is not a dinosaur, well, why do they call it PteroSAUR (dinoSAUR).. This is what I know (fossiles.. ):
The Pterosaurs (Pteranodon, as we, SCIENTIST say.. ) arised in a time, called "Late Cretaceous Period". Here is their pedigree:
Domain (of hoe jullie "rijk" ook zeggen..): Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Reptilia (DINOSAURS)
So, they ARE dinosaurs. You can also see some similarities in the skeleton.
If you want to go further..
Order: Pterosauria
etc..

So, that explaines a lot, doesn't it.. (In your face.. )

[Brother V]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

Apart from the fact that no dinosaur fossil has ever been found that is younger than the Cretaceous Period, which ended 65 million years ago, there are problems with the internal logic of claims about dinosaur survival. Those who argue that dinosaurs could have survived in Africa often claim that Africa has been "geologically stable" since the Cretaceous, when this is in fact not true. At the end of the Cretaceous, Africa was significantly farther south than its current location and even small degrees of difference in location make for vastly different environments. The idea that dinosaurs (such as Mokèlé-mbèmbé) could have survived in the thick rainforests of the Congo, for instance, is not strictly supportable, since the Congo rainforests did not exist in anything like their present form, during the Cretaceous period. Similarly, many of Africa's major geological formations - the Great Rift Valley, for example - are much younger than the dinosaurs, having formed within the last 35 million years. Africa was, in other words, a vastly different place during the time of the dinosaurs, so any claim that depends purely upon the notion that Africa has been stable over the relevant time simply cannot be supported.

How do you know this to be true?

You believe what someone (ScIeNtists) told you.

How is time measured? How do you know fossils are 65 million years old?

Radiocarbon dating?

According to wikipedia

Radiocarbon dating is a radiometric dating method that uses the naturally occurring isotope carbon-14 to determine the age of carbonaceous materials up to about 60,000 years

Well, where do you get the 65 million year date?

Lets do a simple expiriment in math.

According to Secular web site

there is this much carbon In Earth's Crust (mg/kg) 2.00×102. =200

Further...

Carbon-14, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 5,730 years, is used to date such materials as wood and archeological specimens

You are claiming dinosaurs lived 65 million years ago. If this were the case. Then all the carbon in the world has split in half 11343.804537521815008726003490401 times.

Lets just say... 10000 times.

Ok, more math.

2*2=4
4*2=8
8*2=16;32;64;128;256;512;1024;2048;4096......

That's only 11 half lives there and it's up to nearly 5000x10(2)(mg/kg)

How big was the earth back then?


biggest star

The star, known as LBV 1806-20, tips the scales of stellar masses at about 150 times the heft of the Sun.

So how big is our sun?

2 x 10(30) kg. = 2,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

After if we take the mass of carbon up to 105 previous half lives, we get this number.

633,825,300,114,114,700,748,351,602,688

That's only 601,650 years.

Tell me that you still believe in science.

YIC
V

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

hmmm your right that does look like a dinosaur and nothing like a whooping crane.....

Correct, although pterosaurs are not dinosaurs. Whooping Cranes are extremely rare and have never been spotted in my state, although an attempt to relocate them was recently swatted down by Jesus. I know what I saw.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

Apart from the fact that no dinosaur fossil has ever been found that is younger than the Cretaceous Period....

And yet you're sure that lots of smaller dinosaurs eventually evolved into birds. Which is it?

...there are other galaxies and planets...and they give off light that travels at 299 792 458 miles a second....so when we see a star that is 2 million light years away...it took that light 2 million years to get to our eyes....

How do you know? Did you go out into space and time it with a stopwatch, or do you simply have faith in whatever your science teacher in junior high school tells you?

notice how i have all kinds of empirical evidence, but all you do is say....the bible says its right....well what says the bible is right?

Your say-so isn't empirical evidence. The closest that you get is quoting Wickedpedophile.org. Since it's "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit," how do you know that some satanist didn't just add nonsense to trick people like you into joining him in hell? Are you saying that we can't trust God's Perfect Word, but we can trust any inane babblings that you can find on the interwebs?

[Rev. Dr. Davidson]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

Kiddies? Just when did you have a conversation with God, and he said, "Well son, the actual halflife of carbon 14 molecules is......."?

This is where you kids fall into a trap. You believe everything you're told by teachers in public schools. You always tell us to think for ourselves, but how about applying that to yourselves as well?

A teacher once told me I'd be in prison by the time I was 17. I didn't believe her, and didn't ever go to prison. Another teacher told me it wasn't possible for a layman to build a nuclear weapon, or understand anything about nuclear fission in 6th grade. I wrote a 300 page paper on how it could be done. Yet more teachers told me I'd use calculus every day of my life. Guess what? I don't.

Again, just because some teacher told you that there is no adam gene, doesn't make it true. It especially doesn't give you the right to go out and attack True Christians on their own forum, or to tell others that they are stupid because they choose to come here and learn.

[15.3IQ (On Moderation)]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

Scientists have to make people believe they are right. Lets face it, their careers depend on it!

They continually question The Bible which is fine, but I just wish they would seek The Truth© for a change.

....they could have careers like the creation scientist here...your not making any sense just speculations.

they are searching for truth...you are accepting one book, written thousands of years ago, that is constantly wrong.

i take in evidence and compare it to other evidence and then base my "truth" on that...why is the KJV bible correct and not the OT? or the quran? or the bagavad gita?

you do know that there is no mention of hell in the bible right all the words that you guys say mean hell mean ground...there is no mention of the word HELL...you made that up. your book is lying to you again.

why do you think scientists are lying to us but not the clergymen? just like you say the scientists have to lie because their jobs depend on it ( even though if they "told the truth" and it was gods word, they wouldnt have to worry about lying to keep their job because they would be creation scientists...that word is an oxymoron) the clergymen also have to lie to keep their positions....and just ask the power hungry men in here about how big their positions make their penis'....or maybe they just keep up the lie because its an easy way to have fresh little boys to fondle every sunday....hey and by the way the sabbath isnt on the sunday so stop living falsely...oh and what about the commandemnt not to have any graven images....yea so take down all those statues and the crosses....man i could go on and on about how your wrong

[G-Baby]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

WE do, you guys don't..

[Talitha]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

well why would the scientists paint on walls and lie to us about dating what do they gain? they would be just as great if the truth was god did it and they showed us the proof of that...there is no reason for them to lie...i cant believe how blind the faithful are....does god light guide you, or blind you?

Scientists have to make people believe they are right. Lets face it, their careers depend on it!

They continually question The Bible which is fine, but I just wish they would seek The Truth© for a change.

[15.3IQ (On Moderation)]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

I'm sure you have your reasons for asking so many questions.
I know when I first found the love of Jesus Christ™ our Saviour® I was asking all sorts of dumb questions.
The Bible(KJV1611) says the Bible(KJV1611) is right. The Bible is real and written by God so therefore must be The Truth of God.

Science is always trying to trick us. Evil Scientists put those paintings on Cave walls. As for these so-called "Fossils" well, who puts a date on them? Scientists of course just to try and make themselves sound clever.

well why would the scientists paint on walls and lie to us about dating what do they gain? they would be just as great if the truth was god did it and they showed us the proof of that...there is no reason for them to lie...i cant believe how blind the faithful are....does god light guide you, or blind you?

[Talitha]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

yes thats what you say...but evidence shows otherwise....you sound like a stubborn little kid....what about the cave drawings we find, or the light that we see from millions of light years away....you know when you see a star you are seeing light from millions of light years away? i know its hard to get your mind around it...but we have been in space....yea...there are other galaxies and planets...and they give off light that travels at 299 792 458 miles a second....so when we see a star that is 2 million light years away...it took that light 2 million years to get to our eyes....notice how i have all kinds of empirical evidence, but all you do is say....the bible says its right....well what says the bible is right?

I'm sure you have your reasons for asking so many questions.
I know when I first found the love of Jesus Christ™ our Saviour® I was asking all sorts of dumb questions.
The Bible(KJV1611) says the Bible(KJV1611) is right. The Bible is real and written by God so therefore must be The Truth of God.

Science is always trying to trick us. Evil Scientists put those paintings on Cave walls. As for these so-called "Fossils" well, who puts a date on them? Scientists of course just to try and make themselves sound clever.

[15.3IQ (On Moderation)]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

There are no fossils OR ANYTHING ELSE older than 6,000-10,000 years ago when God created the earth.

yes thats what you say...but evidence shows otherwise....you sound like a stubborn little kid....what about the cave drawings we find, or the light that we see from millions of light years away....you know when you see a star you are seeing light from millions of light years away? i know its hard to get your mind around it...but we have been in space....yea...there are other galaxies and planets...and they give off light that travels at 299 792 458 miles a second....so when we see a star that is 2 million light years away...it took that light 2 million years to get to our eyes....notice how i have all kinds of empirical evidence, but all you do is say....the bible says its right....well what says the bible is right?

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

Apart from the fact that no dinosaur fossil has ever been found that is younger than the Cretaceous Period, which ended 65 million years ago

There are no fossils OR ANYTHING ELSE older than 6,000-10,000 years ago when God created the earth.

[15.3IQ (On Moderation)]

Re: I saw a pterosaur today!

Apart from the fact that no dinosaur fossil has ever been found that is younger than the Cretaceous Period, which ended 65 million years ago, there are problems with the internal logic of claims about dinosaur survival. Those who argue that dinosaurs could have survived in Africa often claim that Africa has been "geologically stable" since the Cretaceous, when this is in fact not true. At the end of the Cretaceous, Africa was significantly farther south than its current location and even small degrees of difference in location make for vastly different environments. The idea that dinosaurs (such as Mokèlé-mbèmbé) could have survived in the thick rainforests of the Congo, for instance, is not strictly supportable, since the Congo rainforests did not exist in anything like their present form, during the Cretaceous period. Similarly, many of Africa's major geological formations - the Great Rift Valley, for example - are much younger than the dinosaurs, having formed within the last 35 million years. Africa was, in other words, a vastly different place during the time of the dinosaurs, so any claim that depends purely upon the notion that Africa has been stable over the relevant time simply cannot be supported.

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