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  • Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

    This article demonstrates, once again, why LBC is not part of the Southern Baptist Convention.

    Biological basis for homerism, indeed! There sure is, they're born of their father, the DEVIL!

    Updated:2007-03-15 08:03:37
    Furor Over Baptist's 'Gay Baby' Article

    By DAVID CRARY
    AP

    Ed Reinke, AP
    The Rev. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., published an article titled "Is Your Baby Gay? What If You Could Know? What If You Could Do Something About It?"

    NEW YORK (March 15) - The president of the leading Southern Baptist seminary has incurred sharp attacks from both the left and right by suggesting that a biological basis for homosexuality may be proven, and that prenatal treatment to reverse gay orientation would be biblically justified.

    The Rev. R. Albert Mohler Jr., one of the country's pre-eminent evangelical leaders, acknowledged that he irked many fellow conservatives with an article earlier this month saying scientific research "points to some level of biological causation" for homosexuality.

    Proof of a biological basis would challenge the belief of many conservative Christians that homosexuality - which they view as sinful - is a matter of choice that can be overcome through prayer and counseling.

    However, Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., was assailed even more harshly by gay-rights supporters. They were upset by his assertion that homosexuality would remain a sin even if it were biologically based, and by his support for possible medical treatment that could switch an unborn gay baby's sexual orientation to heterosexual.

    "He's willing to play God," said Harry Knox, a spokesman on religious issues for the Human Rights Campaign, a national gay-rights group. "He's more than willing to let homophobia take over and be the determinant of how he responds to this issue, in spite of everything else he believes about not tinkering with the unborn."

    Mohler said he was aware of the invective being directed at him on gay-rights blogs, where some participants have likened him to Josef Mengele, the Nazi doctor notorious for death-camp experimentation.

    "I wonder if people actually read what I wrote," Mohler said in a telephone interview. "But I wrote the article intending to start a conversation, and I think I've been successful at that."

    The article, published March 2 on Mohler's personal Web site, carried a long but intriguing title: "Is Your Baby Gay? What If You Could Know? What If You Could Do Something About It?"

    Mohler began by summarizing some recent research into sexual orientation, and advising his Christian readership that they should brace for the possibility that a biological basis for homosexuality may be proven.

    Mohler wrote that such proof would not alter the Bible's condemnation of homosexuality, but said the discovery would be "of great pastoral significance, allowing for a greater understanding of why certain persons struggle with these particular sexual temptations."

    He also referred to a recent article in the pop-culture magazine Radar, which explored the possibility that sexual orientation could be detected in unborn babies and raised the question of whether parents - even liberals who support gay rights - might be open to trying future prenatal techniques that would reverse homosexuality.

    Mohler said he would strongly oppose any move to encourage abortion or genetic manipulation of fetuses on grounds of sexual orientation, but he would endorse prenatal hormonal treatment - if such a technology were developed - to reverse homosexuality. He said this would no different, in moral terms, to using technology that would restore vision to a blind fetus.
    "I realize this sounds very offensive to homosexuals, but it's the only way a Christian can look at it," Mohler said. "We should have no more problem with that than treating any medical problem."

    Mohler's argument was endorsed by a prominent Roman Catholic thinker, the Rev. Joseph Fessio, provost of Ave Maria University in Naples, Fla., and editor of Ignatius Press, Pope Benedict XVI 's U.S. publisher.

    "Same-sex activity is considered disordered," Fessio said. "If there are ways of detecting diseases or disorders of children in the womb, and a way of treating them that respected the dignity of the child and mother, it would be a wonderful advancement of science."

    Such logic dismayed Jennifer Chrisler of Family Pride, a group that supports gay and lesbian families.

    "What bothers me is the hypocrisy," she said. "In one breath, they say the sanctity of an unborn life is unconditional, and in the next breath, it's OK to perform medical treatments on them because of their own moral convictions, not because there's anything wrong with the child."

    Paul Myers, a biology professor at the University of Minnesota-Morris, wrote a detailed critique of Mohler's column, contending that there could be many genes contributing to sexual orientation and that medical attempts to alter it could be risky.

    "If there are such genes, they will also contribute to other aspects of social and sexual interactions," Myers wrote. "Disentangling the nuances of preference from the whole damn problem of loving people might well be impossible."

    Not all reaction to Mohler's article has been negative.

    Dr. Jack Drescher, a New York City psychiatrist critical of those who consider homosexuality a disorder, commended Mohler's openness to the prospect that it is biologically based.

    "This represents a major shift," Drescher said. "This is a man who actually has an open mind, who is struggling to reconcile his religious beliefs with facts that contradict it."

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    Re: Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

    Originally posted by OnYourKnees View Post
    This article demonstrates, once again, why LBC is not part of the Southern Baptist Convention.

    Biological basis for homerism, indeed! There sure is, they're born of their father, the DEVIL!
    The SB shows it's hersy by looking at science for the cure for homerism and not God. God cursed these babies with homerism so it is logical that only God can remove it. Does Mohler presume that he has the powers of The Lord?

    Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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      Re: Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

      might be open to trying future prenatal techniques that would reverse homosexuality
      Any idea what this might involve? Are they gonna open up the mother and put a baseball mitt and a dirty magazine in there?

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        Re: Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

        Even Southern Baptists, America's most conservative group (other than Landover, of course), are turning into sissies.
        Bush/Halliburton '08-Rapture!

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          Re: Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

          Originally posted by BornAgain View Post
          Even Southern Baptists, America's most conservative group (other than Landover, of course), are turning into sissies.
          But apparently with a biological basis!

          Maybe Ted Haggard was a Southern Baptist when he was younger?

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            Re: Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

            This is absurd. Everyone knows that God didn't make sissies. It is a lifestyle choice made by weak individuals, possibly as a result of being exposed to too many pastel colors, too much Elton John music, poorly supervised summer camps, and the wrong kind of books.

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              Re: Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

              and if the mother is uppity and leaves the father, leaving the boy without someone to share the love of manly things, like hunting, driving big cars, etc... with the boy. many studies show that many homers lack a strong father in their lives. this falls directly at the feet of women.

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              • #8
                Re: Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

                If God is cursing these babies with homerism while they're still in the womb, a smoking slug in the gut should take care of them just fine. No need to waste valuable tithe money on expensive hormone treatments when the lead method is as trusty as ever.
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                  Re: Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

                  Originally posted by Virginia D. Templeton View Post
                  If God is cursing these babies with homerism while they're still in the womb, a smoking slug in the gut should take care of them just fine. No need to waste valuable tithe money on expensive hormone treatments when the lead method is as trusty as ever.
                  Well there you go with your empty female head. I swear, you girls could never be captains of industry like Brother Worthington for example. Better stick with baking cookies.

                  Do you have any idea what bullets cost these days? And millions of homer babies to be dealt with.... Can you do the math? If it were up to you Godly tax dollars would be wasted on such luxuries instead of where they belong: killing towelheads in iraquistan.

                  No, I'm sure there must be a more....profitable solution to this question.
                  Who Will Jesus Damn?

                  Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                  Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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                    Re: Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

                    If we can ever get the government to abolish anti-business minimum wage laws, sloth-rewarding welfare, and punitive, unfair workplace and environdemented regulations, think of all the money we could save on transportation when we move all the jobs we sent to China and other Godless nations right back here to the United States at exactly the same pay the slants have been getting! Of course, the savings would be passed right on to the consumer! It's win-win, but the lieberals have to whine and cry about how it's their right to sit on their fat, lazy backsides and watch Oprah all day instead of doing an honest day's labor.
                    I tell you, I knew it was bad before, but it really came clear to me how much lieberals hate success when I went around finding the right location for my Born Again Doll factory. If I had to pay American workers what they demanded, why, there would have been no point in going ahead with the business because the profit margin would have been so slim that I might as well be burning money!
                    (Speaking of the Born Again Dolls, my husband-to-be, Mr. Whitford, can't wait to take control of the business and run it right, the way only a man of God can! )
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                    1 Timothy 2:13-15 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
                    Bearing my husband's heirs and being SAVED!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

                      Your upcoming nuptials must have you all flummoxed and aflutter, Sister Mary M. Are you sure you meant to post this excellent post here and not somewhere else?
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                        Re: Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

                        Originally posted by Virginia D. Templeton View Post
                        If God is cursing these babies with homerism while they're still in the womb, a smoking slug in the gut should take care of them just fine. No need to waste valuable tithe money on expensive hormone treatments when the lead method is as trusty as ever.
                        Would that not be abortion? I say we put them in labor camps, with chastity belts. That way they can't sodomise and they generate revenue!

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                        • #13
                          Re: Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

                          Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                          Well there you go with your empty female head. I swear, you girls could never be captains of industry like Brother Worthington for example. Better stick with baking cookies.

                          Do you have any idea what bullets cost these days? And millions of homer babies to be dealt with.... Can you do the math? If it were up to you Godly tax dollars would be wasted on such luxuries instead of where they belong: killing towelheads in iraquistan.

                          No, I'm sure there must be a more....profitable solution to this question.
                          I suggest that we open a series of clinics across the nation.

                          At these clinics, LBC can provide free testing to determine whether a child has these Homer tendencies. Of course, the basic test would be free; a more detailed analysis which would determine whether the child could be Saved with hormone therapies or not would require a donation to defray expenses.

                          Should it be found that the unborn child is unSaveable, and actually an unclean, demon-possessed entity contaminating the Godly womb of a True Christian woman, it would be necessary to thoroughly cleanse and bless the womb so the woman could become pregnant with a Pure child instead.

                          Naturally, additional fees would be necessary for the Womb Cleansing and Blessing procedure.

                          The remnants, after cleansing, could be sold to universities or other institutions for further research into the causes of Homerism and ways to prevent it.

                          Is this the sort of thing you meant, Pastor?

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                            Re: Southern Baptist Supports Biological Homo Basis

                            Originally posted by Larry Lee View Post
                            Your upcoming nuptials must have you all flummoxed and aflutter, Sister Mary M. Are you sure you meant to post this excellent post here and not somewhere else?
                            No, Brother Larry, I did mean to post it here, but I am flummoxed and aflutter as I should have quoted the post I was replying to.

                            Originally posted by The Godly and good Pastor Zeke
                            Do you have any idea what bullets cost these days? And millions of homer babies to be dealt with.... Can you do the math? If it were up to you Godly tax dollars would be wasted on such luxuries instead of where they belong: killing towelheads in iraquistan.

                            No, I'm sure there must be a more....profitable solution to this question.
                            Posted via Prayer

                            1 Timothy 2:13-15 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
                            Bearing my husband's heirs and being SAVED!

                            Blogging for CHRIST!
                            Witnessing for GOD on YouTube!
                            All a-Twitter for Salvation!
                            Bringing Jesus to MySpace!
                            On FIRE for the Lord on Facebook!
                            My Ladies of Landover profile!

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