[TinyJay]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

Carbon dating is based on the known rate of decay of carbon 14,given that it has a half life of apx 5730 years carbon can be measured in an infinite rate (1/2 *1/2*1/2)
Carbon is present in any organic life form past or present.Including The diamond .Diamond's are created when extreme pressure and heat are applied to carbon like coal as an example.We know that man has the ability to create a diamond from coal.And it surly can be dated

Organic material can be pulled from sedimentary rock IE limestone and can be subject to carbon dating.Bones,fossils and petrified wood all contain carbon and can be dated .

Do you not have any belief in the field of science ,or do you simply rely on the writings contained in the Bible ?
If you wish to maintain that the earth is 6000 years old and change how do you explain the existance of OIL ? Is it not known that it comes from decayed plant and animal remains ? Or that Ice in the polar ice cap has been dated much older than 6000 years old. How about the fact that the last Ice age was some 10,000 years ago.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

All of your nonsense about carbon dating has been dismissed by REAL scientists:

http://creationwiki.org/Carbon_dating

[JennyD]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

If you wish to maintain that the earth is 6000 years old and change how do you explain the existance of OIL ? Is it not known that it comes from decayed plant and animal remains ? Or that Ice in the polar ice cap has been dated much older than 6000 years old. How about the fact that the last Ice age was some 10,000 years ago.

I suggest you look up "abiogenic oil".

Here's an article for you on the subject. In part:

An intriguing theory now permeating oil company research staffs suggests that crude oil may actually be a natural inorganic product, not a stepchild of unfathomable time and organic degradation. The theory suggests there may be huge, yet-to-be-discovered reserves of oil at depths that dwarf current world estimates.

The theory is simple: Crude oil forms as a natural inorganic process which occurs between the mantle and the crust, somewhere between 5 and 20 miles deep. The proposed mechanism is as follows:

• <LI V7zCd="0" elFVP="0">Methane (CH4) is a common molecule found in quantity throughout our [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]solar [COLOR=blue !important]system[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] – huge concentrations exist at great depth in the Earth.
  <LI V7zCd="0" elFVP="0">At the mantle-crust interface, roughly 20,000 feet beneath the surface, rapidly rising streams of compressed methane-based gasses hit pockets of high temperature causing the condensation of heavier hydrocarbons. The product of this condensation is commonly known as crude oil.
  <LI V7zCd="0" elFVP="0">Some compressed methane-based gasses migrate into pockets and reservoirs we extract as "natural gas."
  <LI V7zCd="0" elFVP="0">In the geologically "cooler," more tectonically stable regions around the globe, the crude oil pools into reservoirs.
  <LI V7zCd="0" elFVP="0">In the "hotter," more volcanic and tectonically active areas, the oil and natural gas continue to condense and eventually to oxidize, producing carbon dioxide and steam, which exits from active volcanoes.
  <LI V7zCd="0" elFVP="0">Periodically, depending on variations of geology and Earth movement, oil seeps to the surface in quantity, creating the vast oil-[COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]sand[/COLOR][/COLOR] deposits of Canada and Venezuela, or the continual seeps found beneath the Gulf of Mexico and Uzbekistan.
• Periodically, depending on variations of geology, the vast, deep pools of oil break free and replenish existing known reserves of oil.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

Here are some more resources for you, BigJay. I hope you keep an open mind when reading them, because as you said, "A closed mind is the greatest loss to mankind".

http://www.conservapedia.com/Carbon_dating
http://www.conservapedia.com/Abiotic_oil
http://www.conservapedia.com/Date_of_creation

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Musika]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

Hopefully we discover those reserves JennyD because I fear that the government will soon try to take my guns AND my Hummer.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

Carbon dating is based on the known rate of decay of carbon 14,given that it has a half life of apx 5730 years carbon can be measured in an infinite rate (1/2 *1/2*1/2)
Carbon is present in any organic life form past or present.Including The diamond .Diamond's are created when extreme pressure and heat are applied to carbon like coal as an example.We know that man has the ability to create a diamond from coal.And it surly can be dated

Only if it was created within the last 50,000 years.

Tell me, if man can make a diamond from coal in a laboratory in a couple of days, why do you believe that they take "millions of years" to be formed in the earth?

Organic material can be pulled from sedimentary rock IE limestone and can be subject to carbon dating.Bones,fossils and petrified wood all contain carbon and can be dated .

Only if they are less than about 50,000 years old. Which you say they are not, you say they are "millions of years" old.

Do you not have any belief in the field of science ,or do you simply rely on the writings contained in the Bible ?

You are ignorant of both the Bible and the "science" you claim to espouse.

If you wish to maintain that the earth is 6000 years old and change how do you explain the existance of OIL ? Is it not known that it comes from decayed plant and animal remains ?

This has already been answered by Pastor Billy-Reuben AND JennyD.

Or that Ice in the polar ice cap has been dated much older than 6000 years old. How about the fact that the last Ice age was some 10,000 years ago.

How exactly do you prove that? Because some book told you so?

Oh, I bet you have eyewitness accounts, right?

[TinyJay]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

Here are some more resources for you, BigJay. I hope you keep an open mind when reading them, because as you said, "A closed mind is the greatest loss to mankind".

http://www.conservapedia.com/Carbon_dating
http://www.conservapedia.com/Abiotic_oil
http://www.conservapedia.com/Date_of_creation

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Thanks I will read your links.You see man has the ability to reason,to reason is to think and make sound judgments thus the statement a closed mind is the greatest loss to man kind

[TinyJay]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

Most petroleum geologists prefer theories of oil formation, which holds that oil originated in shallow seas as vast quantities of marine plankton or plant materials died and sank into the mud. Under the resulting anaerobic conditions, the resulting organic compounds remained in reduced state. Under these conditions, anaerobic bacteria converted the lipids (fats, oils and waxes) into a waxy substance called kerogen.
As the source rock was buried deeper, overburden pressure raised temperatures into the oil window, between 80 and 180 °C. Most of the organic compounds degraded into the straight-chain hydrocarbons that comprise most of petroleum. This process is called generation kitchen.[citation needed] Once crude oil formed, it became very fluid and migrated upward through the rock strata. This process is called oil expulsion. Eventually it was either trapped in an oil reservoir or oil escaped to the surface and was biodegraded by soil bacteria.
Oil buried deeper entered the "gas window" of more than 160 °C and was converted into natural gas by thermal cracking. Thus, theory predicts that no oil will be found below a certain depth, only unassociated gas. At greater depths, even natural gas would be pyrolyzed.
Abiogenic petroleum origin

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

[apple9]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

Bigjay your signature.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dating

this is used when when somthoing is thought to be very very old

[JennyD]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

Most petroleum geologists prefer theories of oil formation, which holds that oil originated in shallow seas as vast quantities of marine plankton or plant materials died and sank into the mud. Under the resulting anaerobic conditions, the resulting organic compounds remained in reduced state. Under these conditions, anaerobic bacteria converted the lipids (fats, oils and waxes) into a waxy substance called kerogen.
As the source rock was buried deeper, overburden pressure raised temperatures into the oil window, between 80 and 180 °C. Most of the organic compounds degraded into the straight-chain hydrocarbons that comprise most of petroleum. This process is called generation kitchen.[citation needed] Once crude oil formed, it became very fluid and migrated upward through the rock strata. This process is called oil expulsion. Eventually it was either trapped in an oil reservoir or oil escaped to the surface and was biodegraded by soil bacteria.
Oil buried deeper entered the "gas window" of more than 160 °C and was converted into natural gas by thermal cracking. Thus, theory predicts that no oil will be found below a certain depth, only unassociated gas. At greater depths, even natural gas would be pyrolyzed.
Abiogenic petroleum origin

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Thanks for sharing this, BigJay.

As you can see, even WickedPedia says that the biogenic theory is "preferred" by "most" petroleum geologists.

Do you know what a theory is, BigJay?

[TinyJay]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

well I guess a theory could be described as a well informed hypothesis

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

Most petroleum geologists prefer theories of oil formation, which holds that oil originated in shallow seas as vast quantities of marine plankton or plant materials died and sank into the mud. Under the resulting anaerobic conditions, the resulting organic compounds remained in reduced state. Under these conditions, anaerobic bacteria converted the lipids (fats, oils and waxes) into a waxy substance called kerogen.
As the source rock was buried deeper, overburden pressure raised temperatures into the oil window, between 80 and 180 °C. Most of the organic compounds degraded into the straight-chain hydrocarbons that comprise most of petroleum. This process is called generation kitchen.[citation needed] Once crude oil formed, it became very fluid and migrated upward through the rock strata. This process is called oil expulsion. Eventually it was either trapped in an oil reservoir or oil escaped to the surface and was biodegraded by soil bacteria.
Oil buried deeper entered the "gas window" of more than 160 °C and was converted into natural gas by thermal cracking. Thus, theory predicts that no oil will be found below a certain depth, only unassociated gas. At greater depths, even natural gas would be pyrolyzed.
Abiogenic petroleum origin

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

You shouldn't believe everything anything you read on Wikipedia. It has a strong LIBERAL BIAS!!!
http://www.conservapedia.com/Example...s_in_Wikipedia

[TinyJay]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

also found same info on Britannica,Why should I believe what is printed on conservapedia ?

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

Because conservapedia is run by decent human beings as opposed to evil liberals like those clowns from Encyclopedia Britannica:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Liberal

A liberal (also leftist) is someone who rejects logical and biblical standards, often for self-centered reasons. There are no coherent liberal standards; often a liberal is merely someone who craves attention, and who uses many words to say nothing. Liberalism began as a movement for individual liberties, but today is increasingly statist, and in Europe even socialistic.

[TinyJay]

Re: Relativity Explains 6-Day Creation

are all liberals evil ? Even the President of this nation? He to is a christian