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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    Originally posted by brother hotdog View Post
    No sense arguing with heathen, not if they're just looking to start an argument..
    That does seem to be what they do. The established position is that God created everything - agreed upon over 5½ thousand years in all cultures and societies. Although of course we know that heresy blossomed among the vast majority, corrupting ideas about the nature of the divinity, but the central theme arising out of philosophical discussion and scientific investigation remained.

    The Israelites had information and Laws supplied directly by God.

    All of a sudden people start suggesting that what has been demonstrated over the mellennia is false and that there is no deity. Just because this or that group abandoned God and manufactured ridiculous stories about "him" or "her" or "them" in a new-found darkness of ignorance doesn't change the fact of their understanding that some deity existed.

    The burden of proof is on the atheists. But they cannot comprehend that we are not expressing "opinions" which somehow they might change. We are stating what God says.

    The question of whether fallen man may understand everything (or anything) about God is irrelevant in that context - but making things up as they go along depending on the outcomes of arguments is about as good as it gets for atheists I suppose. It is the hallmark of "debate" where there is no actual "substance".

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  • brother hotdog
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    No sense arguing with heathen, not if they're just looking to start an argument or fight with you. The best answer is a fist in the face, or for crowds of unbelivers my 1911 colt.45.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    Originally posted by LtDanNJ View Post
    "I'm glad they're going to hell for eternity." Would our Lord say something like that?
    Have you ever actually read the Bible, friend?

    "He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision." Psalm 2:4

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  • Jack O'fagan
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    Originally posted by frankdelta View Post
    Athiests won't listen to Christians. I wouldn't even bother.

    The best advice I can give you is to do the argument from design...

    Bible verses by subject
    The problem we face is that atheists are just blind to the world around them. There is clearly a designer. You just have to look at the complexity of the human eye. Every part of our bodies is designed perfectly by Him. Just look at the human leg, it is exactly the right length to allow the foot to reach the floor.

    These things don't happen just by chance,

    YiC

    Jack

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  • frankdelta
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    Athiests won't listen to Christians. I wouldn't even bother.

    The best advice I can give you is to do the argument from design...

    Bible verses by subject

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  • Redeemed Papist
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    Originally posted by LtDanNJ View Post
    Blah... and some of you need to try and be a little more Jesus-like, and LOVE every person, regardless of their faith, or lack thereof. I read one post that said something like, "I'm glad they're going to hell for eternity." Would our Lord say something like that? Too many hypocrites on this site.
    I put in red the bits where you seem particularly ill informed.

    John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

    I've deliberately stuck to the actual quotes of the words of Jesus in the gospels. There are many many more warnings to unbelievers that God hates them and they are going to burn.

    Where do you find out about God?

    2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    Could it be by doing something like the above? Listening to warped fake preachers won't save you, sonny.

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  • Jack O'fagan
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    Originally posted by LtDanNJ View Post
    some of you need to try and be a little more Jesus-like, and LOVE every person, regardless of their faith, or lack thereof.
    Jesus did not only teach love, He also instructed us to hate,
    You cannot be a true disciple of Jesus unless you hate. These are the worlds from His Holy lips,

    Luke 14:25 And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them, 26If any man come to me, and HATE not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.



    You need to do some more reading,


    YIC


    Jack

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  • LtDanNJ
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    Originally posted by Talitha View Post
    If you have problems with The Bible then go complain to God! Don't blame us.

    Your death threat has been passed on to the D.O.F.

    Now go and persecute someone else.

    I'm still looking for the death threat. I've been reading through a lot of posts on this thread, and some of you need to try and be a little more Jesus-like, and LOVE every person, regardless of their faith, or lack thereof. I read one post that said something like, "I'm glad they're going to hell for eternity." Would our Lord say something like that? Too many hypocrites on this site.

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  • Talitha
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    Originally posted by WakeUp View Post
    Unbelievable. You astound me. I hope you all wake up at some point, good luck with your lives.
    You see!!
    You can be nice to us if you really try.
    God led you to this website for a reason. I suggest you start reading and digesting so that some ime soon you will know The Truth.
    God Bless.

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  • WakeUp
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    Originally posted by Talitha View Post
    If you have problems with The Bible then go complain to God! Don't blame us.

    Your death threat has been passed on to the D.O.F.

    Now go and persecute someone else.
    Unbelievable. You astound me. I hope you all wake up at some point, good luck with your lives.

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  • Talitha
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    Originally posted by WakeUp View Post
    True Disciple - That Hateful, inane bilge in your signature is a testament to the disgusting, sadistic person you really are. Women are not equal? Bring back slavery? You make me actually sick... I honestly hope you meet your death as soon as possible. Never speak again.

    You are beyond help.

    (Or your are a troll of stellar proportions, and in that case keep up the good work.)

    If you have problems with The Bible then go complain to God! Don't blame us.

    Your death threat has been passed on to the D.O.F.

    Now go and persecute someone else.

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  • WakeUp
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    True Disciple - That Hateful, inane bilge in your signature is a testament to the disgusting, sadistic person you really are. Women are not equal? Bring back slavery? You make me actually sick... I honestly hope you meet your death as soon as possible. Never speak again.

    You are beyond help.

    (Or your are a troll of stellar proportions, and in that case keep up the good work.)

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    Originally posted by VonGizzle View Post
    Hi guys,

    What are your thoughts on empirical agnostics?
    Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

    And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

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  • VonGizzle
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    Hi guys,

    What are your thoughts on empirical agnostics?

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  • Cranky Old Man
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    Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

    Originally posted by True Disciple View Post
    Well, it surely is much more fun to just beat them!
    Amen to that brother.

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