[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another fact of science

Birds do not have teeth; that's why they swallow sand or gravel. The sand or gravel goes into the bird's gizzard and grinds the food after it's swallowed - it takes the place of teeth. Bats don't have gizzards.

Bat bird don't need gravel since their teeth are active and not dormant in other birds. Even your prophet Richard Dawkins agrees birds have the genes for teeth.

[Old Iron Crotch]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another fact of science

Bat bird don't need gravel since their teeth are active and not dormant in other birds. Even your prophet Richard Dawkins agrees birds have the genes for teeth.

Richard Dawkins is not my prophet. He has some ideas I agree with and some that I don't.

Please document where it was demonstrated that birds have genes for teeth, as I've never seen or heard that before.
And if birds had some sort of non-functional gene for teeth, then that would bolster the argument that they evolved from dinosaurs.

Bats don't need gravel becuse they don't have a gizzard. They don't have a gizzard because they aren't birds.

[snottyduck]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another fact of science

This whole discussion seems a little ridicules, it's about a dinosaur, not about whether bats are birds (they are not, the don't lay eggs either, birds do).

I don't know if this new dino is for real, it could be a fraud just as it could be real. The weight indeed seems a little exaggerated but that's because it's all a guess, nobody can accurately calculate it.

It's obviously clear that the dinosaurs preceded the modern human race, finding dino skeletons are nothing new, they are finding them for centuries, where do you think the myths of dragons came from?? Even modern people go trough evolution, we are now a lot taller then in the old days, just go into any old house and you notice how low the doors are. The question is if this all matters, does it matter if we came from the dinosaurs?? Many rejected Darwin because they couldn't believe that humans could be an evolved ape, they couldn't because there Ego was too big. And that what's it's all about, they cannot accept things like that because they find themselves higher then other mammals.

[Old Iron Crotch]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another fact of science

This whole discussion seems a little ridicules, it's about a dinosaur, not about whether bats are birds (they are not, the don't lay eggs either, birds do).

I don't know if this new dino is for real, it could be a fraud just as it could be real. The weight indeed seems a little exaggerated but that's because it's all a guess, nobody can accurately calculate it.

It's obviously clear that the dinosaurs preceded the modern human race, finding dino skeletons are nothing new, they are finding them for centuries, where do you think the myths of dragons came from?? Even modern people go trough evolution, we are now a lot taller then in the old days, just go into any old house and you notice how low the doors are. The question is if this all matters, does it matter if we came from the dinosaurs?? Many rejected Darwin because they couldn't believe that humans could be an evolved ape, they couldn't because there Ego was too big. And that what's it's all about, they cannot accept things like that because they find themselves higher then other mammals.

You're right, Uncle Goose, it is ridiculous, and it's one that BJ and I have had before. You just can't get through to some people. I keep hoping that maybe one day, at least one of them will embrace reason.
Of course, this is the same group that believes Noah's sons collected animals from all over the world by riding on the backs of giant pterodactyls.

[snottyduck]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another lie of science

Heh, Pterodactyls were pretty cool animals, I wished they were still around, I would keep one as a pet.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another lie of science

There are plenty of birds with teeth, Mag. You might have heard of them if you possessed a smidgen more ornithological knowledge that what you've gleaned from Sesame Street. Consider the merganser:

The male has a dark green head that appears almost black. The female has a crest on her head and a white throat. Both have a thin, red, hooked bill with sharp teeth along the edges. These teeth help them catch their swimming prey. The teeth also help them keep a grip on slippery fish.

And of course bats are birds—and an abomination—as God tells us so.

Leviticus 11

13And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,

14And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;

15Every raven after his kind;

16And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,

17And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,

18And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,

19And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

20All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another lie of science

Heh, Pterodactyls were pretty cool animals, I wished they were still around, I would keep one as a pet.

My great-great grandfather claimed to have seen one during the Civil war. I still have this photograph from his effects.

There could be a few living in remote areas.

[snottyduck]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another lie of science

And of course bats are birds—and an abomination—as God tells us so.

Leviticus 11

13And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,

14And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;

15Every raven after his kind;

16And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,

17And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,

18And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,

19And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

20All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.

Why are these animals an abomination?? what's wrong with any of them. Maybe it's because they are not very tasty to eat??

[Old Iron Crotch]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another lie of science

There are plenty of birds with teeth, Mag. You might have heard of them if you possessed a smidgen more ornithological knowledge that what you've gleaned from Sesame Street. Consider the merganser:





And of course bats are birds—and an abomination—as God tells us so.

Leviticus 11

13And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,

14And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;

15Every raven after his kind;

16And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,

17And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,

18And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,

19And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

20All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.

Those aren't teeth in the true sense of the word - they're just ridges along the edge of the bill.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another lie of science

Wow! I never thought I'd see the Scotsman Fallacy applied to teeth. That's some kind of watershed in idiocy. But I'll play along—and offer you Ichthyornis.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another fact of science

Taxonomy is a synonym of classification. The word comes from the Greek: "taxis" and "nomos".

Son, we are a Godly, Republican church. If there are two things we hate more than anything in the world, it's taxes and homos. We are looking forward to the rapture, however, whether it is "gigantic" or not.

PS, you might want to take some remedial English classes, your spelling is atrocious and has lead to much confusion in this thread.

[Old Iron Crotch]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another lie of science

Wow! I never thought I'd see the Scotsman Fallacy applied to teeth. That's some kind of watershed in idiocy. But I'll play along—and offer you Ichthyornis.

All that shows is that birds evolved from reptiles, which we already knew. Modern birds, however, do not have true teeth, nor do they give birth to live young, nor do they nurse said young, therefore the bat is still not a bird.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another lie of science

All Brother BJ said was that the gene for bird teeth was still present. Have the crows been raiding your pumpkin patch again?

Most mammals give live birth, some don't. Most fish lay eggs, some (sharks) don't. Same goes for reptiles, cockatrices, and what have you. Why do your standards of what makes a bird trump those of Almighty God, who created birds?

[David(idiot)]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another lie of science

its funny cause your trying to debunk an intellect like darwin when you cant even prove god is real except for a work of literature.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Gigantoraptor; another lie of science

its funny cause your trying to debunk an intellect like darwin when you cant even prove god is real except for a work of literature.

Davidiot, why would we need more than the Bible to prove anything, when God Himself told us it was true?

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. James 1:5