[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: God loves High Fructose Corn Syrup

then whats the hate on REAL sugar then? Its 10X more natural then HFCS will ever be and, its healthier(at least doesn't give you cancer), and was created by god without the need of human manipulation.

Do tell, where is the study showing that HFCS causes cancer? For that matter, can you find anything linking HFCS consumption to diabetes, obesity, heart disease, or any other human ill? I bet you can't!

Also, here (to tack onto B.I.G.'s comment) are sugar cane and sugar beets, in their "natural, untouched by humans" state:




No, it doesn't really pour out like that.

Natural sugar is either of these produce items, cut up and boiled to extract the sugar, then cooled.

It looks like this:

[IAmJustAMan]

Re: God loves High Fructose Corn Syrup

Do tell, where is the study showing that HFCS causes cancer? For that matter, can you find anything linking HFCS consumption to diabetes, obesity, heart disease, or any other human ill? I bet you can't!

I dont see why it was necessary to show him pictures of sugar but okay,

anyways heres something you should read:

Why is HFCS Bad for us?

Since HFCS’s widespread introduction in the 1980’s North American obesity rates have skyrocketed. Obesity has been linked to may heath issues including heart [COLOR=#CC3333 ! important][COLOR=#CC3333 ! important]disease[/COLOR][/COLOR] and many forms of cancer. When HFCS is ingested, it travels straight to the liver which turns the sugary liquid into fat, and unlike other carbohydrates HFCS does not cause the pancreas to produce insulin; which acts as a hunger quenching signal to the brain. So we get stuck in a vicious cycle, eating food that gets immediately stored as fat and never feeling full.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: God loves High Fructose Corn Syrup

I dont see why it was necessary to show him pictures of sugar but okay,

Because he thinks the white stuff in his sugar bowl is "natural and untouched by man." It's not.

anyways heres something you should read:

Let me take that paragraph apart for you:

Since HFCS’s widespread introduction in the 1980’s North American obesity rates have skyrocketed.

Agreed. Correlation != causation.

Obesity has been linked to may heath issues including heart disease and many forms of cancer.

Agreed as well. But since correlation != causation, and there is no demonstration that the increase in obesity is caused by the introduction of HFCS, this isn't really relevant.

When HFCS is ingested, it travels straight to the liver which turns the sugary liquid into fat,

Carbohydrates cause the body to produce insulin. High insulin production causes the body to store fat. Carbohydrates are NOT EVER TURNED from carbohydrates into fat. That's as likely as turning lead into gold.

Carbohydrates are always -- ALWAYS -- metabolized into glucose. The rate at which they metabolize determines their "glycemic index", or the rate at which they cause blood sugar to rise (that is, the rate at which the glucose enters the bloodstream).

and unlike other carbohydrates HFCS does not cause the pancreas to produce insulin; which acts as a hunger quenching signal to the brain.

This is actually pretty close to true. The release of insulin causes a release of leptin, which is what signals fullness. Insulin itself does not.

So we get stuck in a vicious cycle, eating food that gets immediately stored as fat and never feeling full.

Not feeling full, yes. HFCS stored as fat, no.

Now, here's something else introduced in the 1980s: "Fat Free".

People started thinking about their cholesterol levels. Products left and right came out that had no fat. In order to make up for the loss of flavor and consistency by removing the fat, they added . . . yup . . . sugar. The cheapest and most shelf-stable form of sugar available? HFCS.

In most cases, the "improved, healthier" foods had just as many calories as regular versions; some had MORE. And people, thinking it was OK to eat because it was "fat free", chowed down.

Don't blame your oversized backside on HFCS. Blame shoveling junk food into your face without paying attention to what it is.

[IAmJustAMan]

Re: God loves High Fructose Corn Syrup

Also, here (to tack onto B.I.G.'s comment) are sugar cane and sugar beets, in their "natural, untouched by humans" state:




No, it doesn't really pour out like that.

Natural sugar is either of these produce items, cut up and boiled to extract the sugar, then cooled.

It looks like this:

Could you please tell me what it is about that that is NOT natural?
you just proved yourself wrong.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: God loves High Fructose Corn Syrup

Could you please tell me what it is about that that is NOT natural?
you just proved yourself wrong.

You said that HFCS isn't natural because it's processed. So he showed you pictures to show that all sugar is processed.

If you want to have a natural unprocessed sweetener, you'll have to use honey. That's it.

Oh, and there is no correlation between HFCS and disease, there is between too much simple carbohydrates and diabetes, or too many calories and obesity, but those issues have nothing to do with HFCS.

http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/h/4125-hype-masters-call-out-corn-syrup-falsehoods

diabetes and obesity can be cured by getting off your butt and going for a walk.

[IAmJustAMan]

Re: God loves High Fructose Corn Syrup

You said that HFCS isn't natural because it's processed. So he showed you pictures to show that all sugar is processed.

He never said that sugar wasn't processed. He said you have to change the actual chemical composition of corn to make it HFCS, you have to change it CHEMICALLY, thus making it into a different substance. The sugar inside those plants is the exact same sugar in your bowl except its been PHYSICALLY changed. The sugar in those plants is the exact same thing as what you put on your corn flakes.

7th grade Chemistry

[BelieverInGod]

Re: God loves High Fructose Corn Syrup

He never said that sugar wasn't processed. He said you have to change the actual chemical composition of corn to make it HFCS, you have to change it CHEMICALLY, thus making it into a different substance. The sugar inside those plants is the exact same sugar in your bowl except its been PHYSICALLY changed. The sugar in those plants is the exact same thing as what you put on your corn flakes.

7th grade Chemistry

It's just corn syrup put through an enzyme. Do you know what enzymes are? Do you know you have lots of enzymes in your body?

Excuse me while I go change the chemistry of my steak by throwing it on the BBQ. I might even add an ENZYME (ohgaboohghaboogha) of tenderizer to it.

Just because we disagree with you, doesn't mean we don't know what we're talking about. It's been around since the 50's so I don't know why the freakout now. Other than people want to blame something other than their laziness for getting fat.

[Winter Seraph]

Re: God loves High Fructose Corn Syrup

Carbohydrates cause the body to produce insulin. High insulin production causes the body to store fat. Carbohydrates are NOT EVER TURNED from carbohydrates into fat. That's as likely as turning lead into gold.

Carbohydrates are always -- ALWAYS -- metabolized into glucose. The rate at which they metabolize determines their "glycemic index", or the rate at which they cause blood sugar to rise (that is, the rate at which the glucose enters the bloodstream).

You are actually incorrect.

http://www.brianmac.co.uk/nutrit.htm

"Your digestive system converts the carbohydrates in food into glucose, a form of sugar carried in the blood and transported to cells for energy. The glucose, in turn, is broken down into carbon dioxide and water. Any glucose not used by the cells is converted into glycogen - another form of carbohydrate that is stored in the muscles and liver. However, the body's glycogen capacity is limited to about 350 grams; once this maximum has been reached, any excess glucose is quickly converted into fat."

http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/1100.html

"In the body, carbohydrate is metabolized mainly into glucose, a major source of immediate energy, which is delivered to body cells. Any extra carbohydrate is converted to glycogen (a source of glucose and reserve energy stored in the liver and muscle tissues of humans and animals), or fatty acids, which are later stored as body fat. Therefore, although fat calories are most easily converted to fat in the body, calories from carbohydrate, as well as from protein, will also be transformed into body fat if these calories are not expended."

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: God loves High Fructose Corn Syrup

You are actually incorrect.

How can you assume to be correct if your source is not the KJV1611 Holy Bible?

[Purge the Unfaithful]

Re: God loves High Fructose Corn Syrup

High fructose corn syrup is like manna and it is not wise to question where manna comes from. God provides it pure and simple and you are to eat it and give Him thanks.

You're all sounding like a bunch of liberal hyper-educated heathens right now!

I pray in Jesus' name!!

[BelieverInGod]

Re: God loves High Fructose Corn Syrup

meh, these scientists like to put fancy names to every day things.

I mean I would hate to see the horrors these people could make baking a cake sound like, with all the glutens and bicarbonate of soda causing CO2 to react.

It's still just baking a cake.

Have one describe the common cold to you and you'd think they were dying of the rarest disease on earth.