[Johannes Kirkeholm]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Prove it? That's easy to say!
Prove me the bible is correct
Prove me the bible has to be read literally

God is omniscient --> He knows what the Bible says

God is omnipotent --> He can change what the Bible says if it doesn't reflect his opinion.

So if the Bible isn't the exact Word of God then one of the following options must be the case:

1 God isn't omniscient and doesn't know what the Bible says

2 God isn't omnipotent and can't change what the Bible says

3 God is neither omniscient nor omnipotent

4 God is misleading us on purpose for some reason.

5 God doesn't exist

6 God doesn't care about human affairs

You will notice that options 1-6 are idiotic and that the Bible therefore must be the exact Word of God <--- The Bible is correct.

2 Peter 1:20-21
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost

^^ The Bible must be taken literaly

[James Dewitt]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

That's the most disgusting comment I have ever read. A God that approves this kind of behaviour is no God.
Every life is equal.

Matthias

Every life is equal, OH please back that up with scripture!

[MatthiasB]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

So because the Bible was written by man you are saying that God's Word has been corrupted by fallible men? Don't you think that since God is omnipotent He can inspire people in such a way that they write down His exact meaning? Do you think God is too incompetent to get His meaning through without screwing up?

Nooo!
I was referring to this quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Bob Jenkins
If by restoring the man's sight He really means showing him the way of Jesus, why do you think God made this story intentionally obscure and confusing? Why didn't He just say what He meant? He is God, so He could have just been clear and said what He meant.

I think God says what He means and means what He says. God dooes not speak in code. Only men have to be obscure when they can't think of a clear way to say something

I want to underline that the bible is a book full of metaphores. B.B. Jenkins said that only men have to be obscure when they can't think of a clear way to say something. But, because the bible is written by men, they had to be obscure. I don't say it doesn't spread God's word correctly.

Matthias

[MatthiasB]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Every life is equal, OH please back that up with scripture!

26: for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. 27: For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29: And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise". (Letter to Galatians, ch. 3)

Matthias

[James Dewitt]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

26: for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. 27: For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29: And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise". (Letter to Galatians, ch. 3)

Matthias

I am still waiting, you see we are not all equal in Gods eyes.
Acts 16:31

And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Only True Christians shall be saved!

Leviticus 21:17-23
Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous,Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. He shall eat the bread of his God, both of the most holy, and of the holy. Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries: for I the LORD do sanctify them.

God does not want defective people in Heavan! Including retards!

Ephesians 5:22-24

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.


Females are not equal to a man!

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Eum??
God didn't wrote the bible!!
Men did! And indeed there is no clear way to say something so powerful.

Matthias

The man in the link you gave me told the Bible story, and then explained what he thought the metaphor meant. So how can you say the meaning of the metaphor is ineffable?

If God had meant what that man thinks He meant, He would have said so.

[MatthiasB]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

I am still waiting, you see we are not all equal in Gods eyes.
Acts 16:31

And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Only True Christians shall be saved!

Leviticus 21:17-23
Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous,Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. He shall eat the bread of his God, both of the most holy, and of the holy. Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries: for I the LORD do sanctify them.

God does not want defective people in Heavan! Including retards!

Ephesians 5:22-24

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.


Females are not equal to a man!

So my quote is wrong?

[MatthiasB]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

The man in the link you gave me told the Bible story, and then explained what he thought the metaphor meant. So how can you say the meaning of the metaphor is ineffable?

If God had meant what that man thinks He meant, He would have said so.

But God didn't wrote the bible..

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Nooo!
I was referring to this quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Bob Jenkins
If by restoring the man's sight He really means showing him the way of Jesus, why do you think God made this story intentionally obscure and confusing? Why didn't He just say what He meant? He is God, so He could have just been clear and said what He meant.

I think God says what He means and means what He says. God dooes not speak in code. Only men have to be obscure when they can't think of a clear way to say something

I want to underline that the bible is a book full of metaphores. B.B. Jenkins said that only men have to be obscure when they can't think of a clear way to say something. But, because the bible is written by men, they had to be obscure. I don't say it doesn't spread God's word correctly.

Matthias

If it were full of obscure metaphors that people didn't get, then it wouldn't be spreading God's Word correctly.

It says what it means and it means what it says.

You say God didn't write the Bible because He used men to do it. Do you say Tolstoy didn't write War and Peace because he used a pen to do it?

[MatthiasB]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

If it were full of obscure metaphors that people didn't get, then it wouldn't be spreading God's Word correctly.

It says what it means and it means what it says.

You say God didn't write the Bible because He used men to do it. Do you say Tolstoy didn't write War and Peace because he used a pen to do it?

I'm saying that intelligent men wrote the bible and that they used an intelligent way to write it. And now you're reading a book that's full of metaphores like it's a book without metaphores and therefor you're reading it wrong.

Matthias

[Johannes Kirkeholm]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

I'm saying that intelligent men wrote the bible and that they used an intelligent way to write it. And now you're reading a book that's full of metaphores like it's a book without metaphores and therefor you're reading it wrong.

Matthias

Do you have selective concious perception or something like that? This is the third time I post this Scripture but here you go again:

2 Peter 1:20-21
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost

You think that all human lives are equal? You seem to disagree with the 'intelligent men' who wrote the Bible. These men thought that some people should be killed.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Leviticus 20:27
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

2 Chronicles 15:13
That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman

But perhaps since the intelligent men wrote the Bible in an 'intelligent way' there is some hidden meaning to these straight forward commandments? Please explain to me the hidden meaning.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

So my quote is wrong?

Galatians 3 26-29

For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Christians are the Children of God, by their fath in Jesus

For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
If you are not Baptised in the blood of Jesus you are not saved, therefore not one of Gods children

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Joos are not Believers in Christ, unless they repent and are Baptised then thay can become God's children

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

I'm saying that intelligent men wrote the bible and that they used an intelligent way to write it. And now you're reading a book that's full of metaphores like it's a book without metaphores and therefor you're reading it wrong.

Matthias

Are you some sort of liberal elitist who thinks the Bible is only for smart people with Ivy League degrees? The Bible is intended for everybody, not just brainiacs and the nerd herd. Even Negros can understand the Bible, when it is read aloud to them.

[Merrin]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Holocaust, what a joke. Hitler might have killed a few Joos, he also killed Homersexurals and retards. You do see the retards and Homers running around crying about it do you?

Joos are not Christian. God has a clear penatilty for them.



Granted Hitler did not stone them, too many rocks where needed.

dear sir
even though this site is a satire ( looking at your disclaimer) .
This thing you say here can be pretty annoying for your site. as it is illegal to deny the existance of the holocaust or shoah. And laughing with the pure misery of many people.
please speak with more respect of people who died in concentration camps
as it were your grandparents fighting and losing their life for the fight against the mad minded A.Hitler.

I will keep an eye on this site , and when I encounter a lot of other so called ' satire jokes' . Real people , who actually try to help the world ( joking and laughing is allright , but maybe you should spend your time otherwise ) , might be taking care of this site , taking it off-line.

I'm not threatening you , but there are some boundaries to humour.
I'm not laughing with your granddad who died , nor with your child who got hit by a bus ... try not to laugh with real suffering.

greetings

Merrin

[TheBoyWhoLived]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

I have noticed several debates on this particular subject here. To all you godless atheists out there, let's settle this once and for all...

In the modern world it has become a widely spread lie that the earth is round. Of course, this is impossible. If the earth is round, then why don't people just fall off at the bottom?
It's called gravity!
The answer is simple: The Earth is not round!

Now, if we take a look at some scripture, it clearly tells us the earth is not round but flat:
(TL;DR)

A spherical earth cannot have corners, it is scientifically impossible. The only logical explanation is that the earth is flat. Checkmate atheists!
Why would the earth have corners? If you look at the horizon when at see, you can clearly see it's curved, not straight. Voilà; proof that the earth is round. If the earth is not spherical, how would you explain dusk and dawn?how would you explain the different stages of the moon?
(TL;DR)
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The following image is taken from a creation science book. According to real scientists, this is how the universe really looks like:
Do these scientist have names, what is your source ??

This image really amuses me
Here we see how the planets, the sun and the moon revolve around the flat earth:


So not only the earth, but the entire universe is flat? Why aren't we flat then?
Now, if you still don't believe these scientific facts, here are some real photographs taken at the ends of the earth:


This is an advertisement for a travel agency, and is 100% genuine, it is the work of a brilliant artist.

Real photographs? Think again, I would think that anybody with an ability to see can determine this as being a painting. Paintings depict things of the imagination. If I were to paint a three-headed dog, that does not mean it exists.

This is called Pho-to-shop. Remember this well, you will come across it often when browsing the internet


Anyone seen too much "Pirates of the Caribbean" ?

As you can see, this is a solid proof the Earth is flat. Why else would it have edges like these? ...because the earth is flat! That's why.
Solid proof? I don't think so. You have no resources at all (what are the names of the REAL scientists ? Who made the "pictures" ? I think you would want to reconsider this statement
YIC,
Alex

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