[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

hear me and hear me well. even the smallest amount of faith is enough to secure my place in heaven.

Read the Bible, and read it carefully. If you abide in Christ, and only if you abide in Christ, is your salvation is secured:

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
John 15:6

Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Romans 11:22

A tiny bit of faith isn't abiding in Christ, it's presumptuous and arrogant, and ultimately, deadly.

it is none of your business juw how close I am to God, just as you have no business in just how close I am in friendship to someone. it is a personal relationship.

Your "relationship" is one-sided. It behooves you to recognize this fact. Read your Holy Bible and know what the LORD actually says.

if God is so great, then surely his creation, too, must be wonderful. it is a good thing to desire to learn more about God's creation, which is what we call science. Newton, Copernicus, Kepler, Michelangelo, Brahe, Boyle -- these are just a handful of Christians who strove to learn more about God's creation. How much greater our capacity to praise God if we fully understand just how complex his creation is, but instead you reject the studying of God's creation. How blind of you.

You're mistaken if you think we reject the studying of God's creation. What we reject is the removal of God from this study, which is precisely what modern day "science" seeks to do. Open your eyes, son, don't be an intellectual puppet.

[ArtThouInnocent?]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Okay, lady, allow me to explain to you that you shouldn't be reading the KJV as the one true holy source of scriptures when the original scripts still exist.


furthermore, *you* have a very poor understanding of salvation.

If you can read, it would behoove you to read this:

http://www.biblestudytools.com/romans/passage.aspx?q=Romans+10:9-10

it's faith and grace and nothing else. I believe Jesus successfully paid for my sinful nature, and now I'm secure in salvation. I have an obligation to let others know about the gift of salvation. I do *not* have an obligation to insult unsaved people, because despite my salvation, I still sin just as much as they do.


Friend, you, too, are a pathological sinner. You all are. Stop throwing stones, because you are in no place nor do you have the authority to do so.

http://biblehub.com/john/8-7.htm

[ArtThouInnocent?]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

before any of you thinks of replying that you are without sin, here:

http://biblehub.com/romans/3-23.htm

stop throwing stones. You don't have the authority to judge and punish people. In fact, you have no authority at all.


This is not to mention the sexist 'men only' thread on this website, but I guess Jesus was only kidding around when he commanded you all to love everyone to the point of dying for them, as he first loved us. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. You are not holier, nor more sanctified, nor more wise than any other person in Christ, and you slander God's power by assuming the position of judge. How childish of you all!

[Nobar King]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

before any of you thinks of replying that you are without sin, here:

http://biblehub.com/romans/3-23.htm

stop throwing stones. You don't have the authority to judge and punish people. In fact, you have no authority at all.


This is not to mention the sexist 'men only' thread on this website, but I guess Jesus was only kidding around when he commanded you all to love everyone to the point of dying for them, as he first loved us. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. You are not holier, nor more sanctified, nor more wise than any other person in Christ, and you slander God's power by assuming the position of judge. How childish of you all!

Yet, here you are, judging people. I suppose that you think righteous judgment is only available to 3/5 of the planet's inhabitants, just not Christians?

[ArtThouInnocent?]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

oh, and yes, I'm saved. feels pretty awesome to know that nothing can change that.


seriously guys get a life. what happened, got an empty nest so now you're looking for meaning in life by trying to play God and keeping common knowledge about the shape of Earth from your grand children? God bless any kids that must suffer your lies and caustic, hypocritical remarks about others' sin.


now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to Starbucks, a secular location, to have coffee and talk with some of my secular friends and pray to God I can be a half-decent example of his love, because that's what I'm supposed to be, not a nitwit wasting his time on the internet trying to be more holy than others.


Have fun setting a bad example for the other 98% of Christians in the world!

[ArtThouInnocent?]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

No, no, I'm not judging you -- that would entail me condemning you all to hell for your sins and acting like females are just sandwich and baby-making sex toys.

Christ would be ashamed of your methods. How abominable of you all to degrade others because you feel you are above them. How foolish of you to think you have the authority to change other peoples minds despite the fact that GOD HIMSELF gave them free will. You are in no place to play God. Do you realize that Lucifer was cast out from Heaven and became Satan because he wished to have the power God had?

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

oh, and yes, I'm saved. feels pretty awesome to know that nothing can change that.

Have fun setting a bad example for the other 98% of Christians in the world!

You sound like such a fair weather Christian, one who agrees with science, the devil, and everyone. Everybody likes you and you like them. You get along just fine and never "judge." Congratulations for being in the sinner's club.

FYI, you won't be going to heaven...

"Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets." (Luke 6:26)

"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall ["shall," not "might," emphasis mine] suffer persecution." (2 Tim. 3:12)

Enjoy Hell, puss bag.

Pastor Ed

[ArtThouInnocent?]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Huh, buddy, yes I will be going to heaven because the bible says I am. Got a problem with that?


I am not a middle-grounds Christian, but I certainly do not go around rubbing others' sin in their faces.

First, realize you are in no position of authority, then realize you are being naive and childish in your ways. Next, it would be great if you could please, please start trying to imitate Jesus.

I go to a private Christian school, Delaware County Christian School, and I'm not even going to try to explain to you how wrong in your fundamental beliefs you are because the list would be far too long for me to care to take the time to type it out.


You are supposed to be understanding of others and their sin, you are supposed to be forgiving, and you are supposed to be like Christ, three things which you all fail miserable at. If you're going to unjustly cast stones at others, at least work on your aim, because it really does suck.

[ArtThouInnocent?]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

by the way the earth is round (my great uncle has been to space), water evaporates by turning into a gas because its atomic movement (also known as 'heat') becomes so great that covalent bonds between H2O molecules break and they rise into the upper atmosphere because, on a 1;1 amount ratio, air weighs substantially more than H2O, which, in laymans terms, means air pressure 'pushes' gaseous H2O up and up until pressure coefficients level out.


Also planes don't fly because of pixie dust, they fly because of difference in air pressure under the airfoils caused by different air speeds under and over said airfoils.


Also you might wanna change your website slogan to "God providing salvation through grace since 33 (estimated) AD.

For a bunch of 'Christians' you sure don't give God enough credit where credit is due.

[ArtThouInnocent?]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Oh, God... You guys have "betters"? How pathetic! Christianity ain't a private club! "Unsaved welcome", class A false prophet b.s. and you know it.




If someone has a tiny bit of faith, they're not in any danger. If they've been saved they've been saved, now back off and learn your place! You are but young ones in Christ and do not understand the meaning of grace.

[ArtThouInnocent?]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

that and your 'infractions' are not biblical at all.

http://biblehub.com/ephesians/4-26.htm

because one, you have no right to judge others, and two, God clearly told you to not let a day pass while you're still upset over something.

Again, I must stress, learn your place or be put in it by God. He doesn't like it when people try to abridge his authority.


Oh yeah and stop bullshitting and lying to others. You don't let unsaved persons within a 10 mile radius of your properties.




I fear for your spiritual safety.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Huh, buddy, yes I will be going to heaven because the bible says I am. Got a problem with that?

Yes, because you're a liar. You're a pathetic false Christian who picks and chooses which parts of the Bible he wants to follow. You almost make me want to puke all over my Testoni dress shoes.

I am not a middle-grounds Christian, but I certainly do not go around rubbing others' sin in their faces.

Then you don't follow the Bible...

"Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear." (I Tim. 5:20)

First, realize you are in no position of authority, then realize you are being naive and childish in your ways. Next, it would be great if you could please, please start trying to imitate Jesus.

We do. Jesus said: "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." (Luke 19:27)

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." (Matthew 10:34)

"Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life." (John 8:12)

"21Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. 22And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: 23Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained." (John 20:21-23)

So, as usual, you know nothing at all.

I go to a private Christian school, Delaware County Christian School, and I'm not even going to try to explain to you how wrong in your fundamental beliefs you are because the list would be far too long for me to care to take the time to type it out.

So let me get this straight...you want to save my soul by telling me where me and my brethren have gone wrong, but you just can't make the time to type it out?? How much do you love us again???

If you can prove to us using the Scriptures that we are wrong, then we will change, but you don't have time!? Wow! Your Christianity and "love" is really amazing!

You are supposed to be understanding of others and their sin, you are supposed to be forgiving, and you are supposed to be like Christ, three things which you all fail miserable at. If you're going to unjustly cast stones at others, at least work on your aim, because it really does suck.

We are as forgiving as Christ demands that we be (see Matthew 18:22; Luke 13:3)--if one repents of their wrongs (which you have not).

Regards,

Pastor Ed

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Huh, buddy, yes I will be going to heaven because the bible says I am. Got a problem with that?

Son, even though the good Pastor here is not your "buddy," nevertheless he is still taking the time out of his very busy day to try and explain to you where your logic fails. Your so-called Christian school is doing you a great disservice is it's convinced you that just believing in Jesus' existence and temporary death and resurrection is enough to secure Salvation. After all, even Satan believes as much.

The thing is, no amount of sincerity in a false belief will procure your place in Heaven, dear. It's not how hard you believe, it's what you believe, and what you do in response to that belief that matters. Essentially, either you believe in the right thing and respond appropriately and God chooses to ignore your sins come Judgement Day, or you believe in the wrong things and your response is irrelevant and God punishes you for your sins on Judgement Day. There's really no third option here, by the grace of God.

I am not a middle-grounds Christian, but I certainly do not go around rubbing others' sin in their faces.

What you're doing is trying to convince people that reading the Bible and following the Words of God are superfluous to one's own imaginary methods for justification. You, my friend, are the kind of person the LORD warns against when He warns of wolves in sheep's clothing.

First, realize you are in no position of authority, then realize you are being naive and childish in your ways. Next, it would be great if you could please, please start trying to imitate Jesus.

As an ordained minister of God, Pastor Lowman is showing you the authority of the Holy Bible, dear. You'd be wise to listen with humility.

I go to a private Christian school, Delaware County Christian School, and I'm not even going to try to explain to you how wrong in your fundamental beliefs you are because the list would be far too long for me to care to take the time to type it out.

It's not the fundamentalist beliefs you are taking issue with, dear, it's the fundamentals of the beliefs. That's because you don't accept the actual Gospel, but a watered-down, weakened version created to make people feel good about themselves. If you read your Holy Bible, you'll see this is not the way in which the LORD has ever conducted Himself, or expected His elect to behave.

You are supposed to be understanding of others and their sin, you are supposed to be forgiving, and you are supposed to be like Christ, three things which you all fail miserable at. If you're going to unjustly cast stones at others, at least work on your aim, because it really does suck.

If anyone understands sin, it's Pastor Lowman. You just don't like to hear the Truth©. Do try and calm down and really listen to what we're saying here. This is for your own good, dear. We get no compensation for saying this. It's you we care about.

[ArtThouInnocent?]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

aww, is someone mad because they think they're holier than someone else? Aww.



I pay attention to the entire Bible. We're supposed to be like Christ and adopt his principles, which means that if you're gonna rebuke someone, you sure as hell better rebuke them kindly and in wisdom, not with a pious arrogance only found in those with nothing better to do than turn Christianity into an elitists club.


'It's not his responsibility to be here'. Sorry, what? Oh, hell no, you did NOT just say it's not a pastor's responsibility to preach. Damn are you deluded. Go back to your sexist, overpaid jobs at your private corporation.


I feel bad for you all. Go do something productive with your life.

[ArtThouInnocent?]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

I don't care who's an ordained jellyfish of what planet. If you're going to try to put your authority over God's commands, you can GTFO. Now get off your ugly-ass high horse and understand that you're not the big-talking man you think you are.

Learn your place.