Reconciliation of Science and Religon

[HamSandwich]

Hi everybody, this is my first post her at Landover Baptist Church forums. I'm a university student studying mathematics at the University of Waterloo, in Ontario, Canada. I'm posting here because I have genuine interest in a variety of topics discussed on this forums, particularly with regards to Creation Science, Evolutionary "Science", Christianity, Theology, and Politics.

Now that my introduction is done, I can get down to the "meat" of my questions. Firstly, I'm wondering what users here think of the attempted Reconciliation of Evolution and Catholicism that the Catholic Church has postulated in the recent years. I'm well versed in both Creationism Science and Evolutionary Theory and I don't understand how they can be linked. Therefore, I was wondering if there could be an effort to improve that reconciliation effort, with specific regards to what can be considered Biblical Fact and what can be considered Evolutionary Fact.

Before people jump all over me for suggesting that there are Evolutionary Facts, let my try and set the record straight: Creationism Science and Evolutionary Theory both deal with Facts. Anything that we can observe around us can be considered factual. It is the interpretation of those facts that can be an issue.

To sum up my question, I'm asking what evidence can clearly be used to support Creationism, what evidence can clearly be used to support Evolutionary Theory, and what evidence can be used to support both.

I'll try and be as active in this topic as I can, but I have to leave soon to attend my Friday night service at 7:00pm, and I'm not exactly sure what my plans are afterward.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Reconciliation of Science and Religon

I'm wondering what users here think of the attempted Reconciliation of Evolution and Catholicism that the Catholic Church has postulated in the recent years.

We know Catholics priests are evil child rapists with the Pope as their Satanic leader. We also know evolution to be total nonsense: Genesis 1. Unlike Catholics, who ignore huge parts of the Holy Bible, we True Christians™ follow the entire KJV1611 Holy Bible.

To sum up my question, I'm asking what evidence can clearly be used to support Creationism

God's Holy Bible.

what evidence can clearly be used to support Evolutionary Theory

None whatsoever.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Reconciliation of Science and Religon

Since Catholics are not Christians, I don't think you're going to find much interest here in your papist claptrap.

[No Secrets Victoria]

Re: Reconciliation of Science and Religon

FAITH is all you need. STOP questioning things and over-thinking so much. THE LORD created you. Period. The Evolution theory, is just that, a theory, and let's face it, bogus. I don't know why you would want to believe that you evolved from monkeys!!
Satan likes open minds! Close it quickly, and bathe in the love of JESUS before it's too late.
Satan uses students with open minds, be very careful dearie

[Jedediah]

Re: Reconciliation of Science and Religon

Son, the place for a proper introduction is in the Introduction Forum.

True Science(tm) comes from the King James Bible. As for playing the little dialectical song and dance with the so-called "scientists," I believe Tertullian stated it best:

"What indeed has Athens to do with Jerusalem? What concord is there between the Academy and the Church? what between heretics and Christians? Our instruction comes from "the porch of Solomon," who had himself taught that "the Lord should be sought in simplicity of heart." Away with all attempts to produce a mottled Christianity of Stoic, Platonic, and dialectic composition! We want no curious disputation after possessing Christ Jesus, no inquisition after enjoying the gospel! With our faith, we desire no further belief. "

Refer also to Colossians 2:8 in my signature.

[HamSandwich]

Re: Reconciliation of Science and Religon

Well, I'm sorry to see different varieties of disinterest in my post, perhaps I phrased my question poorly.

We know Catholics priests are evil child rapists with the Pope as their Satanic leader. We also know evolution to be total nonsense: Genesis 1. Unlike Catholics, who ignore huge parts of the Holy Bible, we True Christians™ follow the entire KJV1611 Holy Bible.

God's Holy Bible.

None whatsoever.

First of all, I would like to say that I agree, and I would extend your point to say that it's not only Catholic priests who are child molesters, but many people who follow that false religion. Not only do they ignore parts of the bible, they also add false sections to it. However, with specific regards to evolution, I was wondering if there were any specific parts to evolutionary theory that could be reconciled with a literal reading of the Bible, especially Genesis.

Genesis 1:1-31 and 2:1-3 clearly outline the 6 (plus sabbath) days that were used to create both the physical and spiritual parts of the word we see today. I know that it's clear that the vast majority of evolutionary theory is contrary to this, and therefore evil. However, I am only asking if there are certain parts of evolutionary theory that do not directly contradict the Word of God.

Since Catholics are not Christians, I don't think you're going to find much interest here in your papist claptrap.

Don't worry, I do understand the difference between a true Christian and a Catholic. However, I merely mentioned Catholicism because they have further degraded God's Word by suggesting that evolutionary theory is true. They have obviously overstepped their bounds in this regard, but I was only mentioning them as an example of what has been done in the past concerning the reconciliation of science and religion. I personally disagree with the extent to which the Catholic church has accepted evolution, and I was trying to gauge the degree to which users of this forum accepted certain aspects of the theory of evolution.

FAITH is all you need. STOP questioning things and over-thinking so much. THE LORD created you. Period. The Evolution theory, is just that, a theory, and let's face it, bogus. I don't know why you would want to believe that you evolved from monkeys!!
Satan likes open minds! Close it quickly, and bathe in the love of JESUS before it's too late.
Satan uses students with open minds, be very careful dearie

First of all, thank you for your concerns. I'm very aware of what Satan can and will do with minds that are open to his propaganda. I'm also very aware that the proponents of modern-day evolutionary theory are a part of his plan to deceive the elect and to try and cast doubt into the minds of believers. However, think of the bridge that could be built by believers to help unbelievers if us Christians could extend what the bible teaches us about Creation and apply it to modern-day evolutionary theory. Think of how great it would be (and how big a blow it would be to Satan) if we could show them how succinctly Genesis describes the origin of life.

Also, let me be very specific about what I want and don't want to believe: I want to believe in Jesus, and I do believe in Jesus. I do not want to believe that humans evolved from anything, be it monkeys, fish, plants, or horses. However, I know that other people believe in evolutionary theory. Therefore, as a way of reaching out to others who have not been enlightened by the Love and Redeeming Grace of Christ, I find it useful to learn about the lies of evolutionary theory and the reasons why a biblical explanation is better. I can't converse with people knowledgeably without background knowledge of both sides.