[JustCurious1]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I'm not try to harass like these other guys obviously are. I'd just like some answers to my questions.

[I'm Cyrus]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I see a lot of mealy-mouthed know-it-alls spouting off the kind of secular garbage they teach at public schools, but I'm not seeing anyone cite the only book that matters.

How can you expect us to take anything you say seriously when you don't back up your statements with Scripture? Instead, you are just making fools out of yourselves.

Where's your proof that the bible was written by god? Don't quote some scripture from the bible that says it was written by god, because that doesn't make sense, that's circular reasoning.

I could write a book that says it was written by god, that doesn't mean it was.

[jawsykilla]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Okay for one I never intend to harass. I just want you people to get out of this crazy mindset and understand you are wrong. Face the FACTS and yes they are facts. Do I really need to give you a paragraph on how the very things that started this thread are utter stupidity? Have you people no idea what space is? Please people answer me seriously.
Cheers,
Jordan

[BelieverInGod]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

So putting everything into one post is beyond you?

As for the picture, did you take it? Who took it? NASA? Are you going to believe the government on anything they tell you?

No, the people who flew the planes into the towers were Islamic extremists, there's a difference between a literalist and an extremest. The Bible tells us to obey secular law, therefore we cannot stone sinners until we get a proper Christian government into power. I have read (I don't know Islam enough to know if it's true or not) that Osama has no power to call a fatwa because he is not a religious leader, therefore they are apostates.

The Bible was written by God through the hands of different men.

[JustCurious1]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Show me a circle that has four corners. A circle, by definition, cannot have four corners (or any corners at all!). Can you explain this please?

Sorry to quote my own post, but it kinda got buried by these other guys, and I'd really like to know what you guys have to say about this. I'm just looking for some answers.

[jawsykilla]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Well it appears the inevitable is in the the not too distant future. I don't suppose you have heard of Richard Branson by any chance or is he another Governmental plot to deface Christianity? well he has an initiative to make a spaceport. That is right a Spaceport, infact the first runway from which the craft will launch has just been built. The good thing is, it is for space tourism. That is correct so now even you can prove yourself wrong by taking a trip into space. I don't dislike Christianity i feel it is a good set of moral rules to follow by to lead a good life. But why do you people think it is so literal and that it disproves Physics? No I'm not Christian. Yes putting everything into one post is beyond me because I wouldn't know where to begin...

[Jedediah]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Where's your proof that the bible was written by god? Don't quote some scripture from the bible that says it was written by god, because that doesn't make sense, that's circular reasoning.

I could write a book that says it was written by god, that doesn't mean it was.

I am not going to play your silly little game. God told us that the Bible is His Word, and that is all the proof I need. However, I would not believe it if you told me your book was written by God.

That is because your words are not divinely inspired. The best way to simply describe inspiration and preservation of the Bible is as follows:

Inspiration is when God takes a blank piece of paper (papyrus, vellum, etc.) and uses men to write His words.

Preservation is when God takes those words already written and uses men to preserve them to today.

Both of these actions are DIVINE and are assured by God as recorded in Psalm 12:6, 7:

The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.In Psalm 12:6 God assures us that His originals are perfect. Even though penned by fallible men with the heinous sins of; murder (Moses and David), adultery (David), idolatry (Solomon), and denial of the LORD (Peter), God's words are untainted by the sins of the penmen.

That the originals were inspired perfect in their entirety is an undisputed belief among fundamentalists today.

But most fundamentalists argue that only the "originals” were perfect. They say that today we have nothing but copies and translations of those copies. They seem indignant at the thought that any "mere translation" should be considered a perfect copy of the originals. They claim that copies and translations are products of uninspired men and therefore must all contain mistakes.

Fundamentalists clinging to this tenet are mislead. Their folly in accepting this erroneous teaching is fourfold.

1. It is somewhat confusing and unexplainable that a person could claim that God could not use, sinful men to preserve His words when all fundamentalists believe that he used sinful men to write His inspired words. Certainly a God who had enough power to inspire His words would also have enough power to preserve them. I highly doubt that He has lost such ability over the years.

2. Why would God inspire the originals and then lose them? Why give a perfect Bible to men like Peter, John, James, Andrew and company and not us? They had seen, heard, and touched the Lord (I John 1:1). We haven't! If anyone ever needed a perfect Bible it is us, nearly two thousand years separated from a Saviour we have never seen!

Why did God inspire a perfect original if He didn't plan on preserving it? Couldn't He have afforded some error, in His originals just as some believe He has allowed some errors in today's Bible! Or do critics of God's perfect Bible believe that God was unable to prevent errors in the copies. It would seem like only half of a God who had the power to do one but not the other.

3. It is a "convenient" faith which cannot be tested. In other words, it is rather safe to believe in a perfect set of originals which have been LOST. Since they are lost, no one can ever practically challenge such a belief. Adherents to such a shallow persuasion can rest safely in the fact that they will never be proven wrong since the evidence needed to prove them wrong (the "originals") is lost.

But if they dare put the same faith in a Bible available today, they know that they will definitely be bloodied defending their faith.

Thus, to believe in a perfect set of originals, but not to believe in a perfect English Bible, is to believe nothing at all.

4. Regardless of their arguments against the doctrine of a preserved perfect Bible, such a fact as much guaranteed by Scripture as the bodily return of Jesus Christ (Acts 1:8).

Psalm 12:7 plainly states, "thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."

Thus, we have God promising to preserve the same words that He inspired. Not too much of a feat to overwhelm such an omnipotent Being.

Thus, we have God's Perfect Bible preserved for us today in the King James Version of 1611.

[some dummy]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Alright, so by your logic, the earth is a vertical, flat, circular disk, such as a coin standing up.
If that were true, and gravity false, wouldn't all water on Earth flow towards the bottom, and then spill out into space?

[Jedediah]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Intelligent Pulling. Read some of the other posts on the forum before asking stupid questions.

[jawsykilla]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

No it wouldn't do that because Satan wants to trick us lolololol. Anyways seeing this thread is like going back in time. Do you people need prove of Gravity? Okay, how do we artificially create gravity? We spin something. We create a centripetal force, yes it is Centripetal not centrifugal, To supply a Centripetal force to a mass you must have something holding it at a radius from the center of rotation. This is how we do it on the ISS and it works, you know why? Because it is basic physics. Gravity we don't understand. Anyone claiming to understand Gravity is a liar. We believe it is caused by inter-dimensional particles called Gravitons. How does electricty work people? magic or electrons? hmmm...Gravity doesn't exist because the Earth is spherical, the Earth is spherical because Gravity exists. Understand?

[some dummy]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Intelligent Pulling. Read some of the other posts on the forum before asking stupid questions.

Stupid? You're calling me stupid? I'm a 15 year old high school student, who just provided an argument you can't deny, and you call me stupid?

If the Earth is positioned like a coin in space, what's on the other side?

[jawsykilla]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Also may I point out that there is a little something called a Horizon which would not exist on a flat plane. If you people have ever been above 30,000 feet you will also distinctly notice the curvature of the Earth. Is this the edge of our flat coin shaped Earth? If so where is the rest of the countries and why is this curvature visible everywhere on Earth. Surely it would get to a point where we only see a narrow band beneath us?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

If the Earth is positioned like a coin in space, what's on the other side?

Hell.

[JustCurious1]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Honestly, who can answer my question? If you believe (as one of you stated a few pages back) that the earth is (literally, according to the Bible) a circle with four corners, how does that make sense?

[Jedediah]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

You're getting hung up on details and are missing the overarching message of the Bible: OBEY GOD.

A better question for you to ask is what you can do to keep your soul from plunging into eternal hellfire when you die.