[sir wolf scar]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I didn't write God's Word. I simply, as His servant, show it to all as determined by Him.

I also am of the understanding as per God's word, that the earth is a CIRCLE, which does not necessarily make it also spherical or near spherical. Again I post reference to Isaiah 40:22.

One more thing. I nor my Brothers and Sisters in Christ hide behind any religion OR God for that matter. To hide is to retreat and as you can see, we do not do that. Isn't it better to believe the Word of the Creator Himself, than that of those claiming to "discover" things as to His Creations?

WHY the heck NOT go directly TO THE SOURCE when the option is there!?

YIC

Phebe Carlyle.

umm the bible has been debunked by historians many years ago, so its historical correct ness is non existance. hell where is your scientific prooth that the earth is flat. and no a bible verse isnt scintifc evidence. a theroy, hypothisis is needed to prove something scientificlly correct the earth is round has been proven correct gravadity is real. other wise no cars would stay tot he ground, the earth is iver 6 million years old there is human remains to prove that evolution is real. is a German shepeard the same as a huskey. noo so that PROVES evoulution.

[James Hutchins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

umm the bible has been debunked by historians many years ago, so its historical correct ness is non existance. hell where is your scientific prooth that the earth is flat. and no a bible verse isnt scintifc evidence. a theroy, hypothisis is needed to prove something scientificlly correct the earth is round has been proven correct gravadity is real. other wise no cars would stay tot he ground, the earth is iver 6 million years old there is human remains to prove that evolution is real. is a German shepeard the same as a huskey. noo so that PROVES evoulution.

No, you are completely wrong. You need to read this entire thread to find that all those questions have been asked multiple times and rebuked expertly.

Sorry.

[sir wolf scar]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

No, you are completely wrong. You need to read this entire thread to find that all those questions have been asked multiple times and rebuked expertly.

Sorry.

bye wat you people haven't given any facts to prove the earth is flat. all you've done is quote a 6000 year old book that has already prooven to be false, the earth wasnt created in 7 days it was created over MILLIONS of years. evolution does exists other wise their wouldn't be any cures to any disease. so creationism has been rebuked back in the 1800's

[James Hutchins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

HUH? What language is that?

You are blaming evilution for diseases?

God gave us the cures we need to have. He also gave diseases to punish the sinners in the world. Trying to cure diseases is going against Gods Will(c). He comes up with new diseases to combat secular 'science and its' meddling.

[sir wolf scar]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

HUH? What language is that?

You are blaming evilution for diseases?

God gave us the cures we need to have. He also gave diseases to punish the sinners in the world. Trying to cure diseases is going against Gods Will©. He comes up with new diseases to combat secular 'science and its' meddling.

umm wat god? that secular science has saved far more people than GOD has. its helped people live longer brought happier lives. something that a false book could never do. umm who are you to determine what gods will is are you god? i think not.

[James Hutchins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

umm wat god? that secular science has saved far more people than GOD has. its helped people live longer brought happier lives. something that a false book could never do. umm who are you to determine what gods will is are you god? i think not.

Could you please explain to me and every other educated person in the world as to what a 'wat' is? Is that some sort of gold leaf? What is an 'umm'? Is that some sort of Slavic accent mark?

Until we can decipher what you are attempting to write, I am leery about assuming the meaning of what you have written.
I will say this however. I am a follower of Jesus. I have read the bible probably 10,000 times and have a pretty good idea about what is in it and what it is about and its' purpose. Tell me friend, how many times have you read it?

[Marshall]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

1 Test to see the Earth isn't a sphere.

Step one: Go outside.
Step two: Look at the ground.
Step Three: Praise Jesus.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

umm the bible has been debunked by historians many years ago

Cite scripture to support the above absurd claim!

so its historical correct ness is non existance.

Really? Tell that to the people living in Palestine, Jerusalem, etc!

I do appreciate you may choose to believe your above poppycock. It really bothers me non, sir-burn-in-hell. The facts however contradict you.

Whether you like it or not, The Bible is a very detailed document, and there are many things it says about the ancient world that have not been substantiated by secular historians. However, more of the people mentioned within its page, the places, and events in the Bible are substantiated by historians as more historical texts are read and translated, and as archaeologists and historians discover more about the ancient world. It has taken years and years to ferret out the details of ancient history, and often, century after century went by without any secular substantiation for historical information given in the Bible. Unfortunately, there have been occasions during those times when critics of the Bible have TRIED to discredit it. Instead of looking at the track record of the Bible and believing that historical evidence would one day be brought to light to substantiate it, they claimed the Bible was “wrong” and “inaccurate". Ironically these claims come from a wilfull ignorance to actually RESEARCH things.

It seems you choose to believe such secular hype rather than the Biblical REALITY, because you choose to see yourself as a god and therefore God HIMSELF does not fit into your little personal world view.

Here's an example to show you just how wrong you are (and how wrong the secular historians whose writings you believe, ironically ON FAITH and nothing more) are.

Recent finds vindicating God’s Word is in Daniel 5, which lists “Belshazzar” as the King of Babylon. The “problem” arose when ancient records were discovered listing the kings of Babylon, and Belshazzar was not on the list. Critics used this fact to “prove” the book of Daniel was fiction and not history. Later, however, the Bible was vindicated as archaeologists uncovered texts showing that the actual king, Nabonidus, had left Babylon and appointed Belshazzar to reign in his stead while he traveled. Thus, Belshazzar, the second in command, was the acting king. This fact is actually alluded to in Daniel 5:7 because Belshazzar offered the position of “...third highest ruler in the kingdom” to whoever could read the mysterious writing that appeared on the wall of his palace. He could not make anyone the “second highest ruler” because he was holding that position himself.


I appreciate you have not studied history yourself in any great detail. Again, more ignorance on your part. We True Christians are fortunate though that at least there are SOME secular historians willing to do the hard yards and check for themselves. Sir William Ramsay is one such example of this.

He was an English historian, scholar, and author from the late 1800s. Ramsay was taught at school that the Bible was not reliable, and believed his professors. He wrote, “But about 1880 to 1890 the book of Acts was regarded as the weakest part of the New Testament. No one who had any regard for his reputation as a scholar cared to say a word in its defense.” Ramsay studied the Roman Empire while living in Turkey, and since the book of Acts records many events that happened there, he began to study it. Because his professors had filled his mind with doubt about the Bible, he stated, “I began then to study the Acts in search of geographical and antiquarian evidence, hardly expecting to find any….”

As Ramsay studied the book of Acts for himself, he gradually became convinced it was accurate because the FACTS are there to support its Truth. This process continued until eventually he wrote: “I adopted this argument [that the history in the New Testament was not factual] from others: but I made it my own by believing it and judging accordingly. We are all equally condemned for bad critical method and wrong judgment.” He then wrote of Acts, “The present writer takes the view that Luke’s history is unsurpassed in respect of its trustworthiness.”

Don't you find it interesting that Ramsay, much like you and so many others, only “heard” the Bible was historically inaccurate, and he believed it until he did his own research, something that, as a trained historian, fluent in both Greek and Latin, he was able to do. The historical research of Ramsay and many others has been examined and rechecked many times, and it can be said with confidence that the Bible is historically accurate.

If however you can show me information to the contrary (so cite sources) then do so. The ball is now in your court.

I know this will fall on deaf ears, but why don't you actually research it yourself to KNOW FOR SURE? Oh I know..you don't have time blah blah blah. You do however seems to have time to come in here and comment on things you personally know NOTHING ABOUT.

Time after time, when the Bible mentions a person, place, nation, language, or custom, it has been proven to be correct. More than one once secular atheist historian has come to Christ by studying the accuracy of the history revealed in the Bible. At least, unlike you they are open minded enough to seek and find the truth. You however are obviously far too insecure within yourself to ever presume your "opinion" (based on OTHERS opinions only may I add, rather than verifying for yourself) could be wrong. THAT sir, is nothing short of pathetic and shows that you are just one of the brainwashed minions satan wants you to be. If you are not astute enough to realize you are being duped, then, we cannot help you. You have to WANT Jesus in your life to even begin to struggle free of satan's grasp.

hell where is your scientific prooth that the earth is flat. and no a bible verse isnt scintifc evidence.

You are the one claiming that science has all the answers. I already stated that science really holds not significance for me. As per the above examples I gave you, it has been shown that the Bible is historically accurate.

a theroy, hypothisis is needed to prove something scientificlly correct the earth is round has been proven correct gravadity is real. other wise no cars would stay tot he ground, the earth is iver 6 million years old there is human remains to prove that evolution is real.

Again, rubbish you believe at face value but NOTHING you have actally explored YOURSELF. I realize this as it is more than apparent that you are not intelligent enough to be an archaeologist, geologist, paleontologist, rocket scientist et al. You are relying merely on heresay, (not that you would even admit that to yourself) but still have the AUDACITY to waffle on about our faith and ridicule it! You are a joke!

Tell me,which elements of scientific method have been used to "prove" any of the above? Please cite sources. Again YOU are relying on science to "prove" you right, so bring it. I for one am more than willing to peruse any and all material you supply.

is a German shepeard the same as a huskey. noo so that PROVES evoulution.

You are an idiot and that is proven by slam dunk by the above drivel!
It's more than obvious that you have NO understanding of the theory of evolution. A Siberian husky is a breed of dog. A German shepherd is just another breed of dog, just as a nigra is a race of human, a chink is another race of human. That has ZERO to do with evolution and in fact it would take a husky and german shepherd to be the same breed to even begin to support your evolution claims.


You see sir satan's spawn, I have experienced secular life. (as have many of my Brothers and Sisters in Christ on here) I was not brought up in a Christian household. I attended secular schools. My initial exploration of The Bible was not a desire to support it, but rather to debunk it. I was shown to be wrong and sucked it up and admitted to myself that yes, I CAN be wrong when misguided and believing things at face value. As such, over the past 30 years I have researched and studied it. I cannot say ALL as I will NEVER as a mere human know all there is to know as only God can know all. At least though, like the likes of Mr Ramsay, I have researched things myself and not just relied on face value "conclusion" made by someone else.

Even though I don't like you too much, I will pray for you to see the light. As it stand now, you are completely in the dark, even on things you claim to understand. You are a prime example of satanic dumbing down.

I may pass your postings on here on to those needing information that the current teachings in secular schools, is producing retards. Your parents should be ashamed that they forced such sub-par "education" on you.

YIC

Phebe Carlyle.

[sir wolf scar]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Cite scripture to support the above absurd claim!



Really? Tell that to the people living in Palestine, Jerusalem, etc!

I do appreciate you may choose to believe your above poppycock. It really bothers me non, sir-burn-in-hell. The facts however contradict you.

Whether you like it or not, The Bible is a very detailed document, and there are many things it says about the ancient world that have not been substantiated by secular historians. However, more of the people mentioned within its page, the places, and events in the Bible are substantiated by historians as more historical texts are read and translated, and as archaeologists and historians discover more about the ancient world. It has taken years and years to ferret out the details of ancient history, and often, century after century went by without any secular substantiation for historical information given in the Bible. Unfortunately, there have been occasions during those times when critics of the Bible have TRIED to discredit it. Instead of looking at the track record of the Bible and believing that historical evidence would one day be brought to light to substantiate it, they claimed the Bible was “wrong” and “inaccurate". Ironically these claims come from a wilfull ignorance to actually RESEARCH things.

It seems you choose to believe such hype, perhaps because you choose to see yourself as a god and therefore God HIMSELF does not fit into your little personal world view.

Here's an example to show you just how wrong you are (and how wrong the secular historians whose writings you believe, ironically ON FAITH and nothing more) are.

Recent finds vindicating God’s Word is in Daniel 5, which lists “Belshazzar” as the King of Babylon. The “problem” arose when ancient records were discovered listing the kings of Babylon, and Belshazzar was not on the list. Critics used this fact to “prove” the book of Daniel was fiction and not history. Later, however, the Bible was vindicated as archaeologists uncovered texts showing that the actual king, Nabonidus, had left Babylon and appointed Belshazzar to reign in his stead while he traveled. Thus, Belshazzar, the second in command, was the acting king. This fact is actually alluded to in Daniel 5:7 because Belshazzar offered the position of “...third highest ruler in the kingdom” to whoever could read the mysterious writing that appeared on the wall of his palace. He could not make anyone the “second highest ruler” because he was holding that position himself.


I appreciate you have not studied history yourself in any great detail. Again, more ignorance on your part. We True Christians are fortunate though that at least there are SOME secular historians willing to do the hard yards and check for themselves. Sir William Ramsay is one such example of this.

He was an English historian, scholar, and author from the late 1800s. Ramsay was taught at school that the Bible was not reliable, and believed his professors. He wrote, “But about 1880 to 1890 the book of Acts was regarded as the weakest part of the New Testament. No one who had any regard for his reputation as a scholar cared to say a word in its defense.” Ramsay studied the Roman Empire while living in Turkey, and since the book of Acts records many events that happened there, he began to study it. Because his professors had filled his mind with doubt about the Bible, he stated, “I began then to study the Acts in search of geographical and antiquarian evidence, hardly expecting to find any….”

As Ramsay studied the book of Acts for himself, he gradually became convinced it was accurate because the FACTS are there to support its Truth. This process continued until eventually he wrote: “I adopted this argument [that the history in the New Testament was not factual] from others: but I made it my own by believing it and judging accordingly. We are all equally condemned for bad critical method and wrong judgment.” He then wrote of Acts, “The present writer takes the view that Luke’s history is unsurpassed in respect of its trustworthiness.”

Don't you find it interesting that Ramsay, much like you and so many others, only “heard” the Bible was historically inaccurate, and he believed it until he did his own research, something that, as a trained historian, fluent in both Greek and Latin, he was able to do. The historical research of Ramsay and many others has been examined and rechecked many times, and it can be said with confidence that the Bible is historically accurate.

If however you can show me information to the contrary (so cite sources) then do so. The ball is now in your court.

I know this will fall on deaf ears, but why don't you actually research it yourself to KNOW FOR SURE? Oh I know..you don't have time blah blah blah. You do however seems to have time to come in here and comment on things you personally know NOTHING ABOUT.

Time after time, when the Bible mentions a person, place, nation, language, or custom, it has been proven to be correct. More than one once secular atheist historian has come to Christ by studying the accuracy of the history revealed in the Bible. At least, unlike you they are open minded enough to seek and find the truth. You however are obviously far too insecure within yourself to ever presume your "opinion" (based on OTHERS opinions only may I add, rather than verifying for yourself) could be wrong. THAT sir, is nothing short of pathetic and shows that you are just one of the brainwashed minions satan wants you to be. If you are not astute enough to realize you are being duped, then, we cannot help you. You have to WANT Jesus in your life to even begin to struggle free of satan's grasp.



You are the one claiming that science has all the answers. I already stated that science really holds not significance for me. As per the above examples I gave you, it has been shown that the Bible is historically accurate.



Again, rubbish you believe at face value but NOTHING you have actally explored YOURSELF. I realize this as it is more than apparent that you are not intelligent enough to be an archaeologist, geologist, paleontologist, rocket scientist et al. You are relying merely on heresay, (not that you would even admit that to yourself) but still have the AUDACITY to waffle on about our faith and ridicule it! You are a joke!

Tell me,which elements of scientific method have been used to "prove" any of the above? Please cite sources. Again YOU are relying on science to "prove" you right, so bring it. I for one am more than willing to peruse any and all material you supply.



You are an idiot and that is proven by slam dunk by the above drivel!
It's more than obvious that you have NO understanding of the theory of evolution. A Siberian husky is a breed of dog. A German shepherd is just another breed of dog, just as a nigra is a race of human, a chink is another race of human. That has ZERO to do with evolution and in fact it would take a husky and german shepherd to be the same breed to even begin to support your evolution claims.


You see sir satan's spawn, I have experienced secular life. (as have many of my Brothers and Sisters in Christ on here) I was not brought up in a Christian household. I attended secular schools. My initial exploration of The Bible was not a desire to support it, but rather to debunk it. I was shown to be wrong and sucked it up and admitted to myself that yes, I CAN be wrong when misguided and believing things at face value. As such, over the past 30 years I have researched and studied it. I cannot say ALL as I will NEVER as a mere human know all there is to know as only God can know all. At least though, like the likes of Mr Ramsay, I have researched things myself and not just relied on face value "conclusion" made by someone else.

Even though I don't like you too much, I will pray for you to see the light. As it stand now, you are completely in the dark, even on things you claim to understand. You are a prime example of satanic dumbing down.

I may pass your postings on here on to those needing information that the current teachings in secular schools, is producing retards. Your parents should be ashamed that they forced such sub-par "education" on you.

YIC

Phebe Carlyle.

um scripture's were written by a group of people over hundreds of years, henceforth your first claim that it was written bye god is wrong. henceforth secular schooling is a hell of a lot beter than being teached by crazy fanatics who beat their children (which is against the law). if they don't agree with their religion. you people arnt messangers of god your just crazy people who are the bane of christ'syou are the sinful not us. the irony is that the saved are condemned and the unsaved are saved.


you people need to realize that there is nothing wrong with being gay, people arnt given a chioce it just happens the chemicals in thier brain react diffrently than ours. its called being diffrent you should look it upin something not called the bible.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

You didn't answer ANY of my points, despite whining earlier that I did not answer yours. You cannot even back up your OWN arduous claims!

Ergo, you are an hypocrite!

It is also apparent that you did not read my post at all, showing clearly what a near illiterate narrow-minded, blinded by falsehoods moron you are.

YIC

Phebe Carlyle.

[sir wolf scar]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

You didn't answer ANY of my points, despite whining earlier that I did not answer yours. You cannot even back up your OWN arduous claims!

Ergo, you are an hypocrite!

It is also apparent that you did not read my post at all, showing clearly what a near illiterate narrow-minded, blinded by falsehoods moron you are.

YIC

Phebe Carlyle.

UMM IM NOT THEN ONE CLAIMING THE EARTH IS FLAT WHEN thier is clear scientific evidence. actill scientific evidance. not some fictional book that a milion people read. we went to the moon nasa saw the earth. the soviets saw the earth the chinese did the japanese its a proven fact the earth is not flat.


tl;dr

IT KINDA FUNNY you people can just sit idle buy and say you are going to hell when you dont know anything about the world you sit idle by. treat children like crap and girls. as far as im concerned girls are equal to men, dont now how you people just treat them like they arnt human.

who is the real hypocrite here you are not me your kind johnNOBUDDYGIVESAJUESUSCHRIST. is the biggest piece of garbage ive every heard about.

[James Hutchins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

UMM IM NOT THEN ONE CLAIMING THE EARTH IS FLAT WHEN thier is clear scientific evidence. actill scientific evidance. not some real book that a milion people read. we went to the moon nasa saw the earth. the soviets saw the earth the chinese did the japanese its a proven fact the earth is not flat.


tl;dr

IT KINDA FUNNY you people can just sit idle buy and say you are going to hell when you dont know anything about the world you sit idle by. treat children like crap and girls. as far as im concerned girls are equal to men, dont now how you people just treat them like they arnt human.

who is the real hypocrite here you are not me your kind johnNOBUDDYGIVESAJUESUSCHRIST. is the biggest piece of garbage ive every heard about.

When you were a child and sent to school, did you ever actually go inside?

[Master Gordon]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

UMM IM NOT THEN ONE CLAIMING THE EARTH IS FLAT WHEN thier is clear scientific evidence. actill scientific evidance. not some real book that a milion people read. we went to the moon nasa saw the earth. the soviets saw the earth the chinese did the japanese its a proven fact the earth is not flat.

We are not claiming anything the Lord Your God says that the earth is flat, good Christian men and women only highlight to hell bound sinners what God's word is:

KJV1611 Revalation 7:1 And after these things, I saw foure Angels standing on the foure corners of the Earth, holding the foure windes of the earth, that the winde should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

[Athiest4answers]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Experiment 1)

I submit that you try this again inside an enclosed space, such as a trailer of the same truck travelling at any speed so as to eliminate the force of the air that is blowing past you if you jump on an un-enclosed flatbed. I think you will find that you will go subjectively up and down.

Experiment 2)

I tried that... and the paper stuck to my balloon.

Experiment 3)

I got in a plane that my friend flies (he's a pilot) and when I looked around, the world looked kinda curved, and the horizon kinda disappeared into the distance.

Also... I'm assuming you believe that all of our photographs taken from space are a hoax then? As well as believing that a very significant portion of modern meteorology, how GPS's work, how cell phones work, and in general how modern technology works that the explanations I have available are a conspiracy... Because the explanations for how that tech works all involve a round earth.

[Master Gordon]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Experiment 1)

I submit that you try this again inside an enclosed space, such as a trailer of the same truck travelling at any speed so as to eliminate the force of the air that is blowing past you if you jump on an un-enclosed flatbed. I think you will find that you will go subjectively up and down.

Experiment 2)

I tried that... and the paper stuck to my balloon.

Experiment 3)

I got in a plane that my friend flies (he's a pilot) and when I looked around, the world looked kinda curved, and the horizon kinda disappeared into the distance.

Also... I'm assuming you believe that all of our photographs taken from space are a hoax then? As well as believing that a very significant portion of modern meteorology, how GPS's work, how cell phones work, and in general how modern technology works that the explanations I have available are a conspiracy... Because the explanations for how that tech works all involve a round earth.

Another of satans pawns have come to mock us... satan can't stand it when good Christian men and women spread the truth about God and his glory.

Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.