[TheWorldisflat]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

So I should just blindly obey you?

No!! Definitely not. You should make up your own damn mind first. I can give you facts. I can tell you things, but it is always up to you to decide what you truly believe. This is what I believe. If you STILL believe in what you currently believe, I cannot stop that. But I hope someday you understand what I am trying to say to you. Just as you say to others.

Julian.

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Alright try this one then:

To start with... there's a horizon, meaning that the surface that one is observing from is not an infinite plane. On the clearest of days, the only restriction to one's range of sight is the horizon. There can be two explanations for this - one, that the Earth at some point just stops, as if you were looking off the edge of a table. The other is that the Earth is round. Hundreds of years ago, before the invention of the compass or sextant, precise navigation for ships was difficult, even with the stars. Ships that ventured past sight of land were often lost, and thus it was generally believed that the world simply *stopped* at the end of the horizon. With the invention of the compass, and improved map-making, people began to dare more, and with the return of Columbus from his trans-Atlantic voyage, the concept of the Earth as flat was shattered.

Further proof of the Earth being round came after the voyage of Columbus. When Newton discovered and measured the force of gravity, that number could then be tested anywhere the theory was known. Since the force of gravity is roughly the same everywhere on the globe, it could be surmised that the Earth must be spherical. If the Earth were not round, whole hemispheres would have different atmospheric pressure and significantly different sea levels. Also, pictures taken of the Earth in the last 50 years have proved absolutely conclusively that the Earth is round. These are just the arguments that don't require much physics knowledge to explain, there are others that are more technical, but I think that the simplest arguments are.

You can also observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon as it sails farther and farther out to the ocean, then watch them come back. They certainly didn't fall off the edge of the earth! You can also sail or fly around the world.

Also, keep in mind the 24 hour time zones. When it is noon in Hawaii, it is approximately midnight in the Middle East and vice versa. How can it be noon and midnight simultaneously? It is certainly impossible with a flat earth and a sun millions of times more massive.

Also, don't give me that we've never been to space. Explain to me how your cell phone works. Yes, we've been to space. That is literally the dumbest argument there is. The old "It didn't happen, then" argument. Something disproves you, "Well, then they made it all up! Just to be a jerk".

Apart from being Scripturally non-existent there are a few problems you fail to address:

'PHOTOGRAPHS'
The fact that circular lenses can distort images, in much the same way as looking through spectacles from the wrong angle.

In much the same way as water distorts the true line of sight of objects such as octopus or tuna, making them difficult to harpoon with precision.

Photos can also be tampered with. Haven't we all seen the 'miraculous images' in photo form of the Virgin Mary on toast or Our Lord Jesus superimposed onto a dog's rectum? Of course. There you still have a lack of 'proof' of any substance.

GRAVITY:
The theory of gravity is just THAT. Please read the relevant threads we have here. Try not to be too lazy to do so, ironic especially with yourself accusing others of the very 'Sloth' you are guilty of yourself.

COLUMBUS:
Using a Spaniard as part of an argument? You might at least have used Carlos Iniesta or Enrique Iglesias. they'd be far more relevant than some bounty hunter.


Expectantly,

YIC McUinnean of that Ilk.

[TheWorldisflat]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Apart from being Scripturally non-existent there are a few problems you fail to address:

'PHOTOGRAPHS'
The fact that circular lenses can distort images, in much the same way as looking through spectacles from the wrong angle.

In much the same way as water distorts the true line of sight of objects such as octopus or tuna, making them difficult to harpoon with precision.

Photos can also be tampered with. Haven't we all seen the 'miraculous images' in photo form of the Virgin Mary on toast or Our Lord Jesus superimposed onto a dog's rectum? Of course. There you still have a lack of 'proof' of any substance.

GRAVITY:
The theory of gravity is just THAT. Please read the relevant threads we have here. Try not to be too lazy to do so, ironic especially with yourself accusing others of the very 'Sloth' you are guilty of yourself.

COLUMBUS:
Using a Spaniard as part of an argument? You might at least have used Carlos Iniesta or Enrique Iglesias. they'd be far more relevant than some bounty hunter.


Expectantly,

YIC McUinnean of that Ilk.

Of course, you ignore the points that make perfect sense to you and you know it.

Also, with the photographs: Do you really think EVERY single photograph that has been taken of the planet has been doctored so that people can disprove religion? Don't you think that if the world is flat, and someone got a picture of it, that they would want to show that amazingly new fact? It would revolutionize science! It would change everything! This take on photographs makes you seem like you think everyone is out to get you when they are not! They are just simply...right!

Julian.

[Nobar King]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I'm still waiting for an explanation of the "all men are created equal" paradox. And, don't quote the constitution.

[TheWorldisflat]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

COLUMBUS:
Using a Spaniard as part of an argument? You might at least have used Carlos Iniesta or Enrique Iglesias. they'd be far more relevant than some bounty hunter.

Way to be racist against my people. Just because he's Hispanic doesn't mean I can't use him as a point.

I'm officially not going to respond again. This is getting stupid and redundant. No wonder there are wars over this, you people are simply unwilling to change. You are so filled with your ideas that you reject all others. It reminds me of another story:

A man wanted to train with a fighter named Bruce Lee. He was very selective and met the people before he decided to work with them. He didn't have a studio so he trained privately at their homes. The man showed him what he knew and Bruce said:

"You'll have to relearn everything you know, you realize this?"

"No." Said the man.

They had drinks and Bruce began to fill his glass to the top, but then he kept on pouring. It got to the point where the man had to say

"You can't fill it anymore! It's already full!"

"The same is with you. You are so filled with your ideas and notions that you will reject all others. You must empty your glass and look at it with fresh eyes. This isn't to say that you shouldn't look at it with a critical mind, but you should not reject everything that counters some idea you have in your head."

Empty your glass.

Julian.

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Of course, you ignore the points that make perfect sense to you and you know it.

Gibberish accusation when the chips are down.. The kind of use of dribble that reminds ne less of sport and more of old men and babies trying to eat porridge.

Also, with the photographs: Do you really think EVERY single photograph that has been taken of the planet has been doctored so that people can disprove religion?

Quite possibly. There are many other worldwide hoaxes, so it wouldn't surprise me,. It certainly wouldn't surprise JFK or Elvis either.


An example. The original pic of La Manga de Mar Menor, in Europe.


Hey! Look what we can do!


Point proved for you. You're welcome.

Don't you think that if the world is flat, and someone got a picture of it, that they would want to show that amazingly new fact? It would revolutionize science! It would change everything!
Julian.

See previous demonstration.


YIC, McUinnean of the 2 birds with the one stone Ilk.

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Way to be racist against my people. Just because he's Hispanic doesn't mean I can't use him as a point.

I'm officially not going to respond again. This is getting stupid and redundant. No wonder there are wars over this, you people are simply unwilling to change. You are so filled with your ideas that you reject all others. It reminds me of another story:

RACIST!? My wife is Spanish you idiot.

And I'm afraid it's YOU who is getting stupid and redundant. We have presented you with endless examples and you still try to ignore any form of dialogue and act condescendingly towards all and sundry. especially to the sundry and that's the last thing we need right now.

As for your comment 'you...over there'. That's a little brodering on the racist.


I expect an apology Julie.


YIC, McUinnean.

[GOD=life]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Did it ever occur to you that he DIDN'T? I'm not saying he doesn't exist, I can't prove that, but maybe that if there is a God, the Bible isn't correctly displaying his word?

The real question is: why would you want to disprove it? I mean, we have a lottery ticket in our hands. Why would you go out of your way to prove there's no prize?

your book!

It's not my book. I don't have copyright on it. It's God's book. In that sense, it's our book. It's also yours.

Look, I'm not going to tell you "hey look at me by a Christian, too bad you can't be one [maniacal laughter]". You can become a Christian too and this book called the Bible can tell you how.

Why live your life in a way that restricts you and others for no reason?

The prospect of Heaven and Hell gives us a lot of reason.

Do what you believe is right!

But what if I feel it's right to kill abortion doctors? Or kill people who disagree with me on any topic? That's when an external moral code saying "thou shalt not kill" is sounding pretty good, huh?

Did you consider that encouraging people who want homosexuals to be stoned to death to do what they believe is right might be a bad idea?

You don't need a book to tell you how, especially if that book says women are NOT equal to men!

That's not logical: you cannot dismiss one moral code on the basis of another moral code. Essentially, you're saying "I disagree and therefore you are wrong". On that same basis, we can use the same argument. Except that our argument is backed by God, who made the entire universe and everything in it.

[GOD=life]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

You can also observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon...

That effect is due to optics and electromagnetics.

Light from objects too far away either hits the ground or is bent upwards before it reaches us. This also explains the "sinking ship" effect: the bottom portion of the ship appears to sink into the ocean because all of the light either hits the ocean or is bent upwards, but light from the top portion will be able to go further down before being bent upwards and becoming visible to us, since the ocean is lower relative to it. Also, this allows for an extremely high Greater Ice Wall to keep the atmosphere in, while remaining invisible.

[Sheldon the Swede]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Not that I don't believe you but can you give any source?

[Rebuko the Clown]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Look i admit i dont have much schooling cuz i dropped out in high school and all but i remember being in 2nd grade and them teaching us about the round earth. They eaven had globe in there and we were suposed to find out where we live on the globe and whatever. It wasnt until later in life when i became a BIBLE BELEIVING CHRISTIAN that i realized i was taught wrong and accepted the new truth.

SEE THATS WHY PEOPLE BELEIVE IN ROUND EARTHS. Because they are branewashed in the 2nd grade. SO they grow up and they continue beleiving in it.

Cities are flat, islands are flat, states are flat, so why not the world?

[Reprah]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

"Cities are flat, islands are flat, states are flat, so why not the world?" Strawberries are red. Cherries are red. Blood is red. So why don't they all taste the same?

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

"Cities are flat, islands are flat, states are flat, so why not the world?" Strawberries are red. Cherries are red. Blood is red. So why don't they all taste the same?

Because they are all different. Duh!

[boredmunkey]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Re: 1) Jump! - There's something called gravity, it keeps us on the floor, and something called friction, that helps too.

Re: 2) Blow! - Now, if you went to school, you would know gravity keeps us down, and doesn't push us up. Therefore, you have the islands, continents, etc. staying level. Oh yeah, and they're attached to the earth, that might help also.

Re: 3) Get High! - Earth is huge, not infinite, but huge. If you were to "get high" things cutoff because it is not humanly possible to seek out so far. Unless you have super vision.

Now, I believe in God, and I believe I will go to Heaven because I have done numerous amounts of good for myself and the people around me. I'm not in any way judging you, but this seems a little bizarre. We've proven that the world is round so long ago I thought it would have caught on. And to call yourself "God's own Mouthpiece" seems a little over the top, or far-fetched doesn't it?

"One of the oldest proofs of the Earth's shape, however, can be seen from the ground and occurs during every lunar eclipse. The geometry of a lunar eclipse has been known since ancient Greece. When a full Moon occurs in the plane of Earth's orbit, the Moon slowly moves through Earth's shadow. Every time that shadow is seen, its edge is round. Once again, the only solid that always projects a round shadow is a sphere."

If earth was flat, our water would fall off the edge, and we would have no water... Now, I hope this is some kind of troll because our society would obviously be going down the drain if this were real.

TL;DR Earth is round, read up for details.

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Re: 1) Jump! - There's something called gravity, it keeps us on the floor, and something called friction, that helps too.

Re: 2) Blow! - Now, if you went to school, you would know gravity keeps us down, and doesn't push us up. Therefore, you have the islands, continents, etc. staying level. Oh yeah, and they're attached to the earth, that might help also.

Re: 3) Get High! - Earth is huge, not infinite, but huge. If you were to "get high" things cutoff because it is not humanly possible to seek out so far. Unless you have super vision.

Now, I believe in God, and I believe I will go to Heaven because I have done numerous amounts of good for myself and the people around me. I'm not in any way judging you, but this seems a little bizarre. We've proven that the world is round so long ago I thought it would have caught on. And to call yourself "God's own Mouthpiece" seems a little over the top, or far-fetched doesn't it?

"One of the oldest proofs of the Earth's shape, however, can be seen from the ground and occurs during every lunar eclipse. The geometry of a lunar eclipse has been known since ancient Greece. When a full Moon occurs in the plane of Earth's orbit, the Moon slowly moves through Earth's shadow. Every time that shadow is seen, its edge is round. Once again, the only solid that always projects a round shadow is a sphere."

If earth was flat, our water would fall off the edge, and we would have no water... Now, I hope this is some kind of preach because our society would obviously be going down the drain if this were real.

TL;DR Earth is round, read up for details.

The earth is flat. If you are indeed a Christian you would know this through the Bible. If the earth was spherical, the water would fall off. Just try pouring water onto a ball.