[James Hutchins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Please, don't insult me. I'm just asking questions. Jesus asked you to love everyone, even your enemies, right? Please apply that to me and everyone else you just called an idiot right now. The reason that you feel as though you walked around a flat surface in the above scenario is because of the very large size of the earth. You don't notice the curvature because it is such a large curve. Draw a very very very large circle and then look at just one little part of it. Does it looked curved or straight? It looks only slightly curved and mostly straight. This same concept applies to you and the way you observe the earth. The straight, flat plane of the earth that you are observing is called a "tangent line." Since the earth's curvature is so large, the piece of land on which you are standing looks straight. This concept has been used in calculus since the 16th century. If you were to go up high enough, as in to space, then you would notice the curvature of the earth.

Now John, you are the one who jumped in the end of a nearly 5,100 pot long thread, asking the same questions 1,000 people before you asked. We tire of answering the same question over and over. Imagine a little child at your feet. He has a Bible and all he says is "why?" He has the answers right in front of him yet he is too lazy to use the gift of a brain that God gave him. I think an apology is due Sister BIG.

[mjohniii]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Hi John. Quite the run on paragraph, it makes it very hard to respond. But I read what you wrote and let me respond with a simple question for you.

If the Earth is rotating like you claim and is spherical like all you God hates want us to believe, why when flying to LAX from JFK is it a five hour flight and yet, when you fly from LAX to JFK, it is still a five hour flight. This supposed rotation of the Earth should make one direction faster than the other. I know when I get on a tread mill (the Earth spinning) and walk in the direction of the tread, I stay put. But if I walk against the direction of the tread, I would go flying.

Oh ok sorry I'll break it up some.

The reason what you described with the plane example happens is because when you are taking off on the plane, the plane, the air, everything is moving at a constant speed with the rotation of the earth.

That is why you don't notice the rotational speed of the earth, you are moving with it.

With your treadmill example, when you walk opposite the tread and go flying, you go flying with respect to the relatively un-moving ground.

Imagine, if you will, that all the ground on the entire earth turned into one giant treadmill and then started moving. Would you notice the motion?

While the "treadmill" is acceleration, yes, you would, but once it starts moving at a constant speed, everything would be moving at the same pace, the same rate. You wouldn't notice anything being different at all.

[James Hutchins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Oh ok sorry I'll break it up some.

The reason what you described with the plane example happens is because when you are taking off on the plane, the plane, the air, everything is moving at a constant speed with the rotation of the earth.

That is why you don't notice the rotational speed of the earth, you are moving with it.

With your treadmill example, when you walk opposite the tread and go flying, you go flying with respect to the relatively un-moving ground.

Imagine, if you will, that all the ground on the entire earth turned into one giant treadmill and then started moving. Would you notice the motion?

While the "treadmill" is acceleration, yes, you would, but once it starts moving at a constant speed, everything would be moving at the same pace, the same rate. You wouldn't notice anything being different at all.

I dare you to jump on a moving treadmill. Walk at the same speed as the treadmill then jump. Be sure to keep your legs moving to be fair though you will crash. My kids do it all the time. Some of them are not very bright.
If.... what you say were true and all the air moves as fast as the Earth (I hear scientists claim it is like 10,000MPH!!!) and if in fact, space travel were possible, I assume space does not also rotate that fast, and in fact, based on what claims I have read, it is motionless, when the space craft went back into the air they would be accelerated to 10,000mph in an instant, totally blendering the occupants.
I have also heard space is a vacuum. If so, when does not all the air get sucked away?

[mjohniii]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I dare you to jump on a moving treadmill. Walk at the same speed as the treadmill then jump. Be sure to keep your legs moving to be fair though you will crash. My kids do it all the time. Some of them are not very bright.
If.... what you say were true and all the air moves as fast as the Earth (I hear scientists claim it is like 10,000MPH!!!) and if in fact, space travel were possible, I assume space does not also rotate that fast, and in fact, based on what claims I have read, it is motionless, when the space craft went back into the air they would be accelerated to 10,000mph in an instant, totally blendering the occupants.
I have also heard space is a vacuum. If so, when does not all the air get sucked away?

Have you ever been on one of the very long treadmills at airport terminals? Imagine that you are standing on one, but can only see the tread, nothing else around you. Does the tread look like it's moving? Now jump. Don't you land in the same spot on the tread?

The reason you would be in for a painful conclusion if you jumped on a normal running treadmill is because it is rather short. It's carrying you backwards, right? If you jump, you will still be carried "backward", with respect to the un-moving ground, and be flung off of it.

But, if the tread were long enough, someone not on the tread would observe that you traveled backwards while in the air. You, however, would observe that you stayed on the same place on the tread.

As for you're questions on the spaceship and why all the air does not get sucked away, I'll be honest, I do not have an exact answer. I haven't studied the physics behind that as of yet. They are, however, very interesting questions that I will most definitely be looking up in the future. I would guess that as the rocket gets higher in the atmosphere, the air gets thinner and thinner, as does the "spinning" affect, but that is just a guess, I'm not sure.

[TheLordSavedMe]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

It's like if you were on an airplane. If you sit in an airplane, going hundreds of miles per hour, what happens when you throw a penny into the air? It lands right back down in your hand. That's because you, the penny, and everything else on the plane are going hundreds of miles per hour too.

First, you shouldn't be throwing pennies or anything else around in a plane! 9/11 changed EVERYTHING!!!

You're lucky if they don't shoot you for being a terrorist!

Also, the only reason the penny would land back in your hand is there is no wind inside the plane! Try throwing a penny up in the air on the roof or on the wing of the plane, it'll just blow away! Duh!








Tammi

[mjohniii]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

First, you shouldn't be throwing pennies or anything else around in a plane! 9/11 changed EVERYTHING!!!

You're lucky if they don't shoot you for being a terrorist!

Also, the only reason the penny would land back in your hand is there is no wind inside the plane! Try throwing a penny up in the air on the roof or on the wing of the plane, it'll just blow away! Duh!








Tammi

Hi tammi. I don't throw pennies on planes, I'm just making an example.

It blows away because the air around you on the wing is not moving relative to the earth, and the plane is moving at hundreds of miles per hour relative to the earth. The "wind" you experience is the "unmoving" air being hit by your "moving" body.

If, hypothetically, you were on the wing of the plane in an environment that did not have any air or air resistance, and you tossed up a penny, it would land right back in your hand.

[TheLordSavedMe]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Hi tammi. I don't throw pennies on planes, I'm just making an example.

That's good, because it'd be dangerous!

Those terrorists like totally wrecked flying. I used to LOVE going on planes, now it's like a combination of a flying bus and jail!

It blows away because the air around you on the wing is not moving relative to the earth, and the plane is moving at hundreds of miles per hour relative to the earth. The "wind" you experience is the "unmoving" air being hit by your "moving" body.

Wait, didn't you say before that winds blow across the ground? How can wind not be moving?!?! If wind isn't moving, it's just air, right?

If, hypothetically, you were on the wing of the plane in an environment that did not have any air or air resistance, and you tossed up a penny, it would land right back in your hand.

Hypo-what? Is that like an imaginary situation? How could a plane fly where there was no air? First, you'd suffocate if you were on the wing and there was no air, and second I thought it was like when you put your hand out the window of a car, it goes up and down when you tip it. Isn't that how planes fly? They need air to fly I think, that's why planes can't go up to the Moon right, cuz there's no air?

[mjohniii]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

That's good, because it'd be dangerous!

Those terrorists like totally wrecked flying. I used to LOVE going on planes, now it's like a combination of a flying bus and jail!



Wait, didn't you say before that winds blow across the ground? How can wind not be moving?!?! If wind isn't moving, it's just air, right?



Hypo-what? Is that like an imaginary situation? How could a plane fly where there was no air? First, you'd suffocate if you were on the wing and there was no air, and second I thought it was like when you put your hand out the window of a car, it goes up and down when you tip it. Isn't that how planes fly? They need air to fly I think, that's why planes can't go up to the Moon right, cuz there's no air?

Yes, that's right, they can't fly without air, that's why I was being "hypothetical" It's like an imaginary, simplified situation.

So, to make things simpler, let's pretend that all of the air molecules are not moving. The plane is. The "wind" that you experience is you're moving body hitting the unmoving air particles. Do you see what I'm saying?

The main reason I decided to make this profile was to make a point on here that you do not have to disbelieve all science to be a true christian.

Sure, if you don't want to believe in the big bang or evolution, that is totally fine as those theories may turn out to not even be true, but stating that the earth is not round, I just don't understand that. There's nothing that attempts to disprove the existence of God in that statement.

I think the world would be a much better place if everyone was a little less extreme with their beliefs. I support you 100% on your belief in God and Jesus being your savior, but you must try to remember some of his most important teachings of love and compassion towards everyone, not just other christians.

The hatred I see expressed here towards "atheists" and "muslims" is very, very against what Jesus taught. Remember, he was always with the prostitutes and tax collectors, loving them, tolerating them, helping them. Not ridiculing them and persecuting them.

I hope you can see where I'm coming from. I myself am not a christian, but my father used to be a pastor and I know the Bible very well, especially the gospel. I've read it several times. Please try to pay attention to the love that Jesus preached, and don't spread hatred.

[Margot]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

The only flat thing here is the brains of the people who still live 1 millennium in the past and think the earth is flat.

[Professor Bessemer]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

The main reason I decided to make this profile was to make a point on here that you do not have to disbelieve all science to be a true christian.

Sure, if you don't want to believe in the big bang or evolution, that is totally fine as those theories may turn out to not even be true, but stating that the earth is not round, I just don't understand that. There's nothing that attempts to disprove the existence of God in that statement.

I think the world would be a much better place if everyone was a little less extreme with their beliefs. I support you 100% on your belief in God and Jesus being your savior, but you must try to remember some of his most important teachings of love and compassion towards everyone, not just other christians.

The hatred I see expressed here towards "atheists" and "muslims" is very, very against what Jesus taught. Remember, he was always with the prostitutes and tax collectors, loving them, tolerating them, helping them. Not ridiculing them and persecuting them.

I hope you can see where I'm coming from. I myself am not a christian, but my father used to be a pastor and I know the Bible very well, especially the gospel. I've read it several times. Please try to pay attention to the love that Jesus preached, and don't spread hatred.

Friend, while I understand your motivation, you do not need to worry about our understanding of the Bible. I actually find your tone to be quite condescending. I have degrees from various faith based universities, and even though I have no degrees in theology per se, I am certainly capable of understanding and living by every word of the King James Bible.

By your own admission, you are not an Independent Baptist. As such, we consider you a non believer and we are tasked by God to lead you to True Christianity™ and your salvation.

As for the hate you claim we express, that is obviously your own projection of deep seated feelings of inadequacy and self loathing. We do not hate anyone, we want them to come to Jesus. Most people are on a path to hell, is it hateful to tell them that they are on a path to damnation? I would submit to you that we do what we do out of a deep and abiding love for those currently ignorant of God's plan.

[Cursed]

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The only flat thing here is the brains of the people who still live 1 millennium in the past and think the earth is flat.

Wrong, you THINK the earth is round. We KNOW it's flat, because GOD said so.

Are you calling GOD a liar?

[GOD=life]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

but stating that the earth is not round, I just don't understand that. There's nothing that attempts to disprove the existence of God in that statement.

Friend, that's like saying you don't understand why we bother arguing the sky is blue. The sky is blue, get used to it. Similarly, while the circumference is the earth is indeed round, the earth is not spherical but flat and bumpy, like a coin.

The hatred I see expressed here towards "atheists" and "muslims" is very, very against what Jesus taught.

We don't hate, we try to save. And Jesus taught unequivocally that anyone who did not follow HIM would suffer Hell for eternity. Since you choose to follow atheist religion instead of Jesus Christ, it is Jesus who teaches that you will go to Hell.

To claim that Jesus Christ taught the opposite is making a mockery out of Christianity for your own nefarious purposes.

Remember, he was always with the prostitutes and tax collectors, loving them, tolerating them, helping them.

And they immediately accepted Him as their Savior.

So what why can a prostitute understand Jesus Christ is our Savior and you can't?

According to your own logic, a prostitute is intellectually superior to you.

I hope you can see where I'm coming from.

What you are trying to do is prey on an impressionable female trying to convert her to atheist religion away from Christianity so you can introduce her to your weiner.

As an aside, "I read the Bible several times" is not a qualification.

[mjohniii]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Friend, while I understand your motivation, you do not need to worry about our understanding of the Bible. I actually find your tone to be quite condescending. I have degrees from various faith based universities, and even though I have no degrees in theology per se, I am certainly capable of understanding and living by every word of the King James Bible.

By your own admission, you are not an Independent Baptist. As such, we consider you a non believer and we are tasked by God to lead you to True Christianity™ and your salvation.

As for the hate you claim we express, that is obviously your own projection of deep seated feelings of inadequacy and self loathing. We do not hate anyone, we want them to come to Jesus. Most people are on a path to hell, is it hateful to tell them that they are on a path to damnation? I would submit to you that we do what we do out of a deep and abiding love for those currently ignorant of God's plan.

I apologize, I am not trying to be condescending. I have seen on these forums posts such as "I do not like chinks" and the reference to african americans as "nigras." I took that to be hate-speech.

I would like to apologize again, the only people I have exchanged actually comments with have actually been polite and loving, which I am very grateful for.

However, I have seen other posts, that were not explicitly directed towards me, that contained a significant amount of hate-speech.

I was also earlier referred to as an "idiot" which did not seem very loving to me.

[TheLordSavedMe]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Yes, that's right, they can't fly without air, that's why I was being "hypothetical" It's like an imaginary, simplified situation.

So, to make things simpler, let's pretend that all of the air molecules are not moving. The plane is. The "wind" that you experience is you're moving body hitting the unmoving air particles. Do you see what I'm saying?

Not really, sorry.

If the air isn't moving, how come the "molecules" or whatever don't just fall on the ground? Like when you close a room up and turn off the heat, all kinds of dust falls on the tables and the shelves and stuff. Like at my Gramma's house, you should see all the dust!!!

And why would you come up with a make believe situation that wouldn't work? It's like a fairy story or something. And I thought scientists were about facts and stuff, not made-up stories. Now I'm even MORE confused!





Tammi

[GOD=life]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I was also earlier referred to as an "idiot" which did not seem very loving to me.

Friend, you are complaining about the tone of voice in which we are trying to reach out to you while yelling "STOP! DANGER! NOOO!!!" to try to stop you from your one-way trip to Hell.

If you REFUSE to go to Heaven and CHOOSE to go to Hell instead, then according to any rational definition, you are indeed an idiot. Or at the very least a very troubled and psychologically damaged individual.

Would you prefer if it we told you "You're going to Hell, but we're sure you and Satan and Barack Obama will get along superbly, toodles! Huggie hug!"

As an aside, if you continue preying on Tammi to get her to look at your weiner, you may be guilty of statutory digital rape. Just something to think about. Bubba may introduce you to what Satan will do with you later on.