[Tool of satan]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

None of your damn business.

Or do you want me to give you my mothers maiden name and my SSN as well?

Why the aggression? Your comment about your BSc should be backed up by what college you attended. Such as: "I have a BSc from (insert school here)"

[BelieverInGod]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Why the aggression? Your comment about your BSc should be backed up by what college you attended. Such as: "I have a BSc from (insert school here)"

Here's the difference, I could lie (like you atheists do all of the time), but lying is a sin. Instead I tell you that it's none of your business, but somehow by telling the truth, that means that I'm lying?

Lets leave it at the fact it was a larger secular recognized university, but not an Ivy league. It's enough for me to challenge any government attempt at trying to force my children into public brain washing schools since I'm better educated than most teachers.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

My main point was simply that the deeper you go into a scientific subject the more you find out that it's all conjecture and hypothesis, not actual proof. One physicist believes X, another believes Y, neither has been "proven" right, yet I see their theories tossed around on the internet like it's proven facts.

[Tool of satan]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Here's the difference, I could lie (like you atheists do all of the time), but lying is a sin. Instead I tell you that it's none of your business, but somehow by telling the truth, that means that I'm lying?

Lets leave it at the fact it was a larger secular recognized university, but not an Ivy league. It's enough for me to challenge any government attempt at trying to force my children into public brain washing schools since I'm better educated than most teachers.

Why did you assume I was atheist and when did I accuse you of lying?

Thank you for answering the question, that's all I wanted to know.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Why did you assume I was atheist and when did I accuse you of lying?

Thank you for answering the question, that's all I wanted to know.

You need to watch your tone when addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians(tm).

Have you made a thread of your own in the Introduction Forum? I would suggest that you do that.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Tool of satan]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

My main point was simply that the deeper you go into a scientific subject the more you find out that it's all conjecture and hypothesis, not actual proof. One physicist believes X, another believes Y, neither has been "proven" right, yet I see their theories tossed around on the internet like it's proven facts.

If you think about it, you'll realize that you can never 'prove' anything conclusively. However, proving, in the conventional sense, can be done.

Theories are only believed because they are consistent with all scientific knowledge. Theories can not be proved. They can only be disproved using experiments. Therefore, theories talked about as proven facts are a result of the uneducated and uninformed.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

If you think about it, you'll realize that you can never 'prove' anything conclusively. However, proving, in the conventional sense, can be done.

Theories are only believed because they are consistent with all scientific knowledge. Theories can not be proved. They can only be disproved using experiments. Therefore, theories talked about as proven facts are a result of the uneducated and uninformed.

Take a look around these boards and you'll see dozens of people come here daily to "prove" these theories. As a person who was raised fuzzy bunny Christian and have a secular education it drives me nuts. They don't know what they're talking about, but somehow coming onto a board of "dumb christians" is going to make them feel better about themselves.

I have since realized that the only truth is God's Truth as set out in the KJV 1611 Bible. When I am teaching my children their science, I tell them what the secular belief du-jour is, but they also know what the Bible says.

[Tool of satan]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Take a look around these boards and you'll see dozens of people come here daily to "prove" these theories. As a person who was raised fuzzy bunny Christian and have a secular education it drives me nuts. They don't know what they're talking about, but somehow coming onto a board of "dumb christians" is going to make them feel better about themselves.

I have since realized that the only truth is God's Truth as set out in the KJV 1611 Bible. When I am teaching my children their science, I tell them what the secular belief du-jour is, but they also know what the Bible says.

Very interesting but it raises a question.

How do the flaws("you find out that it's all conjecture and hypothesis, not actual proof") that you see in secular science not apply to the KJV 1611 Bible?

Is it because True Christians are firm in their beliefs whereas scientists tend to fluctuate and change over time?

[BelieverInGod]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Very interesting but it raises a question.

How do the flaws("you find out that it's all conjecture and hypothesis, not actual proof") that you see in secular science not apply to the KJV 1611 Bible?

Is it because True Christians are firm in their beliefs whereas scientists tend to fluctuate and change over time?

I've always known God was there, I've known that God created the world, although I was raised to think that he used evolution to do the job. What happened in my childhood church was that I was told to ignore parts that weren't "acceptable". Well if the word of God is the word of God, then I think anyone who can create an entire world, can keep his book straight.

When I found that there were people who were True Believers, and True Christians, that KNEW the Bible was the inerrant word of God and lived by it, I jumped at it. If you read the Bible as it is written, without cherry picking, it shows how the world was created, why it was created and what we need to do to get to Heaven. It doesn't change.

On the other hand, I see so much bad science out there that goes unchallenged because it fits in with what scientists want to believe. One prime example is the Sokal hoax. Sokal wrote a paper that was nothing but garbage, he KNEW it was nothing but garbage, yet it got past the peer review system and published because it confirmed the modern leftist belief system.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Very interesting but it raises a question.

How do the flaws("you find out that it's all conjecture and hypothesis, not actual proof") that you see in secular science not apply to the KJV 1611 Bible?

Is it because True Christians are firm in their beliefs whereas scientists tend to fluctuate and change over time?

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

[Tool of satan]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I've always known God was there, I've known that God created the world, although I was raised to think that he used evolution to do the job. What happened in my childhood church was that I was told to ignore parts that weren't "acceptable". Well if the word of God is the word of God, then I think anyone who can create an entire world, can keep his book straight.

When I found that there were people who were True Believers, and True Christians, that KNEW the Bible was the inerrant word of God and lived by it, I jumped at it. If you read the Bible as it is written, without cherry picking, it shows how the world was created, why it was created and what we need to do to get to Heaven. It doesn't change.

On the other hand, I see so much bad science out there that goes unchallenged because it fits in with what scientists want to believe. One prime example is the Sokal hoax. Sokal wrote a paper that was nothing but garbage, he KNEW it was nothing but garbage, yet it got past the peer review system and published because it confirmed the modern leftist belief system.

Alright. The contradictions between the physical world and the Bible have been stated, no need for me to get into that.

These forums, this entire section in particular, has a mountain of bad science. You cannot use these 'science' experiments to attempt to prove the flat earth theory because they have flaws and gaps in logic, mostly due to the lack of information. To prevent this, I would recommend the scientific method when attempting to create scientific experiments.

Your message is that Bible is always right and tells us of a flat earth, therefore the earth is flat. Which is perfectly sound reasoning if you accept the first fact. This reasoning would then render this whole section pointless. Why would you want science to prove your hypothesis when the Bible already does that for you?

Also, just a note, the Sokal paper was never peer reviewed by another physicist.

[dumbdude]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I'm curious, where in the bible does it say that the earth is flat? Please share the verse or verses where it says that.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I'm curious, where in the bible does it say that the earth is flat? Please share the verse or verses where it says that.

Go to the front of the thread and start reading.

[James Hutchins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I'm curious, where in the bible does it say that the earth is flat? Please share the verse or verses where it says that.

Idiot
Isaiah 11:12
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Revelation 7:1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

[{Anna}]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

We know the Earth is flat because the Bible tells us so. But for those of you skeptical, close-minded types that flat out refuse to accept the overwhelming Biblical evidence, I have designed some experiments you can do at home that will show you, before your very eyes, that the world is indeed flat, and not spherical as some crazy scientists proclaim. It's amazing how many people blindly believe in a spherical Earth, without ever having seen it for themselves! I intend to change that.


1) Jump!
Now, scientists claim that Earth is spherical and rotating at a speed of between 700-1000 miles per hour, depending on your latitude. This is a very high rate of speed. You can disprove this nonsense by simply jumping up as high as you can. Really, it's that simple. What happens when you jump? You come straight down to where you were. But, if the Earth were indeed spinning at such a fast speed, wouldn't you land hundreds of feet away?

If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.

It's because you're moving right along with the Earth
Consider if you were on a train moving 60mph and you jumped up:
you'd land back where you jumped from,
rather than landing several yards away
or striking the back of the rail car

2) Blow!

Since if the Earth is supposedly a sphere, it naturally comes to assume what would happen to people below the equator, like in Australia? Since they are underneath the sphere, wouldn't they fall off? This is where scientists come up with mumbo-jumbo like "gravity" and "centrifugal force" to explain away their theories. So, the scientists want you to think that because the earth is so much more massive than people or things, that people will naturally "stick" to the bottom of the earth because of gravity.

This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!

That's right. Even though the balloon is so much bigger in mass, it cannot hold the tiny paper. So if the Earth was a sphere, no one could live below the equator because they would fall off.

No,balloon has to have a greater amount of mass
Earth was a sphere
Explain sunrise and a sunset?
Why for example sun is rising in New York
but sets in Tokyo?
Or why we can't see same stars from Southern Hemisphere
as in Northern Hemisphere?

3) Get High!

Ok, this one you really can't do at home, but you can do it out in the world. Stand on the ground and look around you. What's the farthest you can see? Maybe it's a building, tree, or mountain. Now, find some place very close to it where you can get a much higher vantage point. (This also works if you're on a jet and about to take off.) Notice how in the higher place you can see much farther? You can see more of the world the higher you get. This shows the world is flat because the higher you go, the easier it is to see over obstacles. At the same time, it shows the world cannot be spherical. Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon.

If the Earth was a sphere, it would not matter how high you went, you would still see the same thing. Since this is not the case, the Earth is flat.


These experiments are all confirmed by creation scientists as being 100% accurate. If you're skeptical of the flat Earth, why don't you do these experiments so you can see truth with your own eyes.

Yours in Christ,

Rev. Jim Osborne

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