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  • roger85
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    Re: Six scientific Extra-Biblical arguments that PROVE God exists

    Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
    Atheists demand scientific proof God exists, as if The Bible isn't enough. Well here are six of them.

    #1 First Cause.
    There is no first cause without God. As Thomas Aquinas said "Nothing is caused by itself. Every effect has a prior cause. This leads to a regress. This has to be terminated by a first cause, which we call God." God, by definition is the creator of the universe. Obviously the universe has a creator so therefor God exists.

    #2 Mountains of Evidence for Intelligent Design
    One just has to look at diseases like Malaria, Salmonella and Ebola that cunningly turn the bodies defenses against itself to know that there is an intelligence guiding the development of life. Something so insidiously complex has to be the creation, and as we have already PROVEN a creator is by definition God.

    #3 Personal Observation.
    Like many of Christians I have felt the presence of God in my life and heard His voice talking to me. Further more I have survived numerous attempts on my life in my job and escaped contacting AIDs even though I have to have contact with witches. I KNOW God exists.

    #4 Heisenberg uncertainty principle
    Since we can not prove anything exist in Quatom mechanics we can't disprove anything. If we can't disprove God then logically God has to exist.

    #5 The Law of Information
    The Law of Information states that all coded information is the product of an intelligent being. DNA is such a code. The only intelligent being who could have produced it God.

    #6 God is the greatest thing Imaginable,
    Humans have never been able to imagine anything greater than God. Clearly we must have reason to imagine God. Further more something must be limiting our imaginations and the only thing that can do that is God.
    There you have it, six arguments that prove God exists.

    I away your rebuttals Atheists.
    #1 What created God? If there was a first cause, what was god's first cause? The universe is infinite, there is no outside to it, so how can it be created?

    #2 The creator of these such disease are called parasites.

    #3 The voices in your head is your conscience speaking to you.

    #4 If by logic god exists, where is he?

    #5 All coded information is the product of an intelligent being. The only intelligent being who could have produced it God. - What is God's DNA then since he is an intelligent being.

    #6 True, humans can't imagine anything greater than God, because god is an imagination. God is limiting our imagination because God is created by our brain, our imagination. Imaginations don't exist.

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  • Lycia The Repentant
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    Re: Six scientific Extra-Biblical arguments that PROVE God exists

    You can also remind them that even Aristotle, the Greek who is credited with the foundations of most of modern "science", proved that God existed!

    His arguement:

    1. There exists movement in the world.
    2. Things that move were set into motion by something else.
    3. If everything that moves were caused to move by something else, there would be an infinite chain of causes. This can't happen.
    4. Thus, there must have been something that caused the first movement.
    5. From 3, this first cause cannot itself have been moved.
    6. From 4, there must be an unmoved mover. (i.e. God)

    If even a heathen Greek figured it out around 350 BC, why is it taking atheists so long?

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  • Pastor Isaac Peters
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    Re: Six scientific Extra-Biblical arguments that PROVE God exists

    Originally posted by Viggo B. Kristoffersen View Post
    GLORY! You preach it, Brother.

    When it's so obvious that God exists, and we even have plenty of scientific proof of it, I can't help wondering if we, the True Christians™, are the only people born with a brain. It's really very simple, and still we meet so many who can't accept the facts.
    Brother, I fear it's worse than that. The evidence for the existence of God is so overwhelming that no one can possibly deny it:

    Romans 1:18-21: For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    That is, unbelievers know that God exists; they just have such a strong emotional need for God not to exist that they ignore reality in favor of their fantasy.

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  • Viggo B. Kristoffersen
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    Re: Six scientific Extra-Biblical arguments that PROVE God exists

    GLORY! You preach it, Brother.

    When it's so obvious that God exists, and we even have plenty of scientific proof of it, I can't help wondering if we, the True Christians™, are the only people born with a brain. It's really very simple, and still we meet so many who can't accept the facts.

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  • Six scientific Extra-Biblical arguments that PROVE God exists

    Atheists demand scientific proof God exists, as if The Bible isn't enough. Well here are six of them.

    #1 First Cause.
    There is no first cause without God. As Thomas Aquinas said "Nothing is caused by itself. Every effect has a prior cause. This leads to a regression of events were one thing caused another. Logically this regression has to be terminated by a first cause, which we call "God." God, by definition is the creator of the universe. So in short; the universe has a creator so therefor God exists.

    #2 Mountains of Evidence for Intelligent Design
    One just has to look at diseases like Malaria, Salmonella and Ebola that kill millions by cunningly turn the bodies defenses against itself to know that there is an intelligence guiding the development of life. Something so insidiously complex as these diseases has to be a creation, not a random event and as we have already PROVEN that the creator is by definition God.

    #3 Personal Observation.
    Like many of Christians I have felt the presence of God in my life and heard His voice talking to me. Further more I have survived numerous attempts on my life in my job and escaped contracting AIDs even though I have to have contact with witches. I KNOW God exists.

    #4 Heisenberg uncertainty principle
    Since we can not prove anything exist in Quantum Mechanics we can't disprove anything. If we can't disprove God existence then logically God has to exist.

    #5 The Law of Information
    The Law of Information states that all coded information is the product of an intelligent being. DNA is such an example of coded information so logically DNA is the proof of an intelligent creator and not random chance. DNA is found in all living things. The only intelligent being capable of placing DNA in all living things is God.

    #6 God is the greatest thing Imaginable,
    Humans have never been able to imagine anything greater than God. Clearly we must have reason to imagine God. Further more something must be limiting our imaginations or we would come up with something greater than God. The only thing that can limit human imagination is God.
    There you have it, six arguments that prove God exists.

    I await your rebuttals Atheists.
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