[Bible Student]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel
What really makes me laugh is how these sick-o scientists claim that the earth is a billion-carillon years old, when the Holy Bible tells us that the earth cannot possibly be older than about 6,000 years.

How do they expect anyone to take them seriously with nonsense like that?

HAH! How ignorant you are. Carbon dating and the fossil record has proved the earth is far older than 6000 years old.

The oldest rocks which have been found so far (on the Earth) date to about 3.8 to 3.9 billion years ago (

If you are going to start spouting heathen science, at least learn some. Carbon dating is basically useless for anything older than 50,000 years. So it can't possibly measure something which you claim is billions of years old unless of course with the new math nonsense 50,000 years is longer than a billion years.

Besides since the world was only created 6,000 years ago, there couldn't be anything to accurately test a measurement of 50,000 years. That is merely hyperbolic guessing by prevaricating, heathen scientists. You seem to have a lot of blind faith in them, don't you? Are you six?

[GOD=life]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Carbon dating and the fossil record has proved the earth is far older than 6000 years old.

Your confusion is understandable, but you're still mistaken. Carbon dating does indeed prove that the earth is billions of years old. In other words: if you follow the measurement method carbon dating, then you will reach the conclusion that the earth is billions of years old.

Similarly, if I use the measurement method magnifying glass, I will come to the conclusion that everything is much bigger than the Bible claims it is.

The actual problem is that you put blind faith in carbon dating. It has never been proven over long periods of time. No one has written in 1,000,000 BC "OK, it's 1,000,000 BC now. Check." as a reference point. No one!

It's really like having a large curved surface and claim it's flat just because the fraction of an inch that you measured seems flat within a 0.01% margin of error.

Do you see how the way you measure dictates the conclusion even though the connection between method and conclusion is completely reliable and accurate? That is why we use the Bible as reference, since it is completely objective and unbiased.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Carbon dating and the fossil record has proved the earth is far older than 6000 years old.

If you believe in magic perhaps. Carbon dating is as idiotic as determining how much water there is in a cup by banging your head against a wall.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

HAH! How ignorant you are. Carbon dating and the fossil record has proved the earth is far older than 6000 years old.

The oldest rocks which have been found so far (on the Earth) date to about 3.8 to 3.9 billion years ago (by several radiometric dating methods). Some of these rocks are sedimentary, and include minerals which are themselves as old as 4.1 to 4.2 billion years. Rocks of this age are relatively rare, however rocks that are at least 3.5 billion years in age have been found on North America, Greenland, Australia, Africa, and Asia.

While these values do not compute an age for the Earth, they do establish a lower limit (the Earth must be at least as old as any formation on it). This lower limit is at least concordant with the independently derived figure of 4.55 billion years for the Earth's actual age.

The most direct means for calculating the Earth's age is a Pb/Pb isochron age, derived from samples of the Earth and meteorites. This involves measurement of three isotopes of lead (Pb-206, Pb-207, and either Pb-208 or Pb-204). A plot is constructed of Pb-206/Pb-204 versus Pb-207/Pb-204.

If the solar system formed from a common pool of matter, which was uniformly distributed in terms of Pb isotope ratios, then the initial plots for all objects from that pool of matter would fall on a single point.

Over time, the amounts of Pb-206 and Pb-207 will change in some samples, as these isotopes are decay end-products of uranium decay (U-238 decays to Pb-206, and U-235 decays to Pb-207). This causes the data points to separate from each other. The higher the uranium-to-lead ratio of a rock, the more the Pb-206/Pb-204 and Pb-207/Pb-204 values will change with time.

If the source of the solar system was also uniformly distributed with respect to uranium isotope ratios, then the data points will always fall on a single line. And from the slope of the line we can compute the amount of time which has passed since the pool of matter became separated into individual objects.

Too long, didn't read.

We don't care about you science fairy tale nonsense. We believe only in the cold hard facts of the Bible.

[The Proud Atheist Fool]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

What really makes me laugh is how these sick-o scientists claim that the earth is a billion-carillon years old, when the Holy Bible tells us that the earth cannot possibly be older than about 6,000 years.

How do they expect anyone to take them seriously with nonsense like that?

HAH! How ignorant you are. Carbon dating and the fossil record has proved the earth is far older than 6000 years old.

The oldest rocks which have been found so far (on the Earth) date to about 3.8 to 3.9 billion years ago (by several radiometric dating methods). Some of these rocks are sedimentary, and include minerals which are themselves as old as 4.1 to 4.2 billion years. Rocks of this age are relatively rare, however rocks that are at least 3.5 billion years in age have been found on North America, Greenland, Australia, Africa, and Asia.

While these values do not compute an age for the Earth, they do establish a lower limit (the Earth must be at least as old as any formation on it). This lower limit is at least concordant with the independently derived figure of 4.55 billion years for the Earth's actual age.

The most direct means for calculating the Earth's age is a Pb/Pb isochron age, derived from samples of the Earth and meteorites. This involves measurement of three isotopes of lead (Pb-206, Pb-207, and either Pb-208 or Pb-204). A plot is constructed of Pb-206/Pb-204 versus Pb-207/Pb-204.

If the solar system formed from a common pool of matter, which was uniformly distributed in terms of Pb isotope ratios, then the initial plots for all objects from that pool of matter would fall on a single point.

Over time, the amounts of Pb-206 and Pb-207 will change in some samples, as these isotopes are decay end-products of uranium decay (U-238 decays to Pb-206, and U-235 decays to Pb-207). This causes the data points to separate from each other. The higher the uranium-to-lead ratio of a rock, the more the Pb-206/Pb-204 and Pb-207/Pb-204 values will change with time.

If the source of the solar system was also uniformly distributed with respect to uranium isotope ratios, then the data points will always fall on a single line. And from the slope of the line we can compute the amount of time which has passed since the pool of matter became separated into individual objects.

[Cigar Manfor Christ]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Fantastic! When I travel across the mighty USA once a week or so, I cherish stopping at little out of the way truck stops. Ones that that are off the beaten path. I am able to sidle up to a driver or two and spread the love of Jesus. I often start out with a regular 'How do you do' and ask them if they have a co-driver. Eventually, they ask me about my co-driver. By this point I am nearly spurting with excitement. I tell them how Jesus is always willing to lend a hand with the shifting of my gears and that I'd love the chance to give them a hand too. I show them my double sleeper cab and offer to read a few passages of the KJV out of the cold. I also will offer a warm coco or a candy bar.

Now this is truly spreading The Lord's love and compassion, Brother James!! I'd love to have a tour of your cab and hear you read some beautiful KJV passages. I need more of His word!

[James Hutchins]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Fantastic! When I travel across the mighty USA once a week or so, I cherish stopping at little out of the way truck stops. Ones that that are off the beaten path. I am able to sidle up to a driver or two and spread the love of Jesus. I often start out with a regular 'How do you do' and ask them if they have a co-driver. Eventually, they ask me about my co-driver. By this point I am nearly spurting with excitement. I tell them how Jesus is always willing to lend a hand with the shifting of my gears and that I'd love the chance to give them a hand too. I show them my double sleeper cab and offer to read a few passages of the KJV out of the cold. I also will offer a warm coco or a candy bar.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Most of them carry the "LGTN" (Landover Gospel Television Network).

Speaking of which, have you heard this Spring LGTN greenlighted the airing of my new spin-off show: Cruising for Christ: Truck Stop Rendezvous with Rev. Jim Osborne. I will be traveling across the U.S.A. in my custom-made RV bus, stopping at truck stops and preaching the Word of the Lord to weary truckers in need of saving. The goal is to get 100 men Saved® as I make my way from Iowa to California.

I know you were eager to participate in the project, and it looks like it's a Go! Praise Jesus for answering our prayers, Brother Hutchins.

[James Hutchins]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Those pipes provide heat, air conditioning, tv, telephone and internet service to truckers taking a break.

Back in the day, we used to leave the engine idling. But with the piss drinking towel heads pushing up the cost of fuel, a cheaper method had to be devised. Currentl;y, to idle a truck for 8 hours costs about $32.00 pluss wear and tear, to say nothing of the constant vibration and noise. These hook ups are generally under $24.00 for 24 hours of use. Most of them carry the "LGTN" (Landover Gospel Television Network).

[AngelClark]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Then why do you hate all of His creations?

I am glad at least one of you fruits agree that belgistan does not exist. Really, it is just a truck stop between france and the frozen north.


I am sure you people do live like that. Can't even speak American or have your own language. You have to mooch off other people.

Brother Hutchins,
I know I'm just a lowly female, but what the ____ is that picture supposed to be? I know that those are trucks but the pipe looking things are throwing me off, BIG TIME

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

i deeply apologize and hope God will accept my 40 lashes as a sufficient punishment for questioning the magnificent work he does. Praise him!

You brits sure do love your bottoms spanked. I wonder why...

[Brother Helge]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

dear me, i knew my wandering mind would lead me back towards my evil ways. please forgive your christian brother. i deeply apologize and hope God will accept my 40 lashes as a sufficient punishment for questioning the magnificent work he does. Praise him!

Why don't you write a thread of your own in the Introduction Forum, so we all can greet you properly!

[BritforGod]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

indeed i have! Praise him. Although God is our creator and therefore needs no help at all, don't you think we should pray and ask him if he needs a woman's touch to help him out with the chores and everyday errands up there? I'm sure God would love to take a break and be able to put his feet up once in a while; maybe watch his favorite team, the patriots, win the superbowl. i know my pa sure loves his relaxation time after a hard days work.

dear me, i knew my wandering mind would lead me back towards my evil ways. please forgive your christian brother. i deeply apologize and hope God will accept my 40 lashes as a sufficient punishment for questioning the magnificent work he does. Praise him!

[BritforGod]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Most likely, it was God re-arranging the sky. He varies it from time to time so it does not get boring, much like re-wallpapering the kitchen.

It seems you have witnessed God performing yet another miracle

indeed i have! Praise him. Although God is our creator and therefore needs no help at all, don't you think we should pray and ask him if he needs a woman's touch to help him out with the chores and everyday errands up there? I'm sure God would love to take a break and be able to put his feet up once in a while; maybe watch his favorite team, the patriots, win the superbowl. i know my pa sure loves his relaxation time after a hard days work.

[James Hutchins]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

CRanky, i would like to delve deeper into this post. I too think it highly unlikely that a section of the government is shooting metal objects into "space" But, here is the question of a young and wisdom-less christian mind: As i was staring upwards into the sky, hoping, and also fearing, that i might be of some importance that the lord savior would take notice of a angst ridden christian teen, i saw what the good reverend refers to as a star or "diamond". What was odd though, was that it was moving slowly across the sky, and not motionless like the other stars. Is there a flaw in our True Christian morals, beleifs, and logic? Or is this just our most hated enemy, , trying to confuse my young mind and turn me away from a christian life.

Most likely, it was God re-arranging the sky. He varies it from time to time so it does not get boring, much like re-wallpapering the kitchen.

It seems you have witnessed God performing yet another miracle