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  • #61
    Re: If evolution is real...

    Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
    An elephant staying within its 'kind'. Are you suggesting that all shorter tusked elephant isn't an elephant? When they find one with feathers let me know.

    Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his*kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his*kind: and it was so.

    YIC

    Jack

    You're confusing Evolution with Speciation. Evolution doesn't always mean a new animal, it's simply a change. And also, if this continues, yes. Eventually the tuskless elephant will become a completely different species, that cn no longer breed with the standard African Elephant.

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    • #62
      Re: If evolution is real...

      Originally posted by alex.siegel View Post
      You're confusing Evolution with Speciation. Evolution doesn't always mean a new animal, it's simply a change. And also, if this continues, yes. Eventually the tuskless elephant will become a completely different species, that cn no longer breed with the standard African Elephant.


      So if my wife cuts her fingernails then she will not be able to bare me more sons?

      Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

      YIC

      Jack
      Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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      I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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      • #63
        Re: If evolution is real...

        Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
        So if my wife cuts her fingernails then she will not be able to bare me more sons?

        Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

        YIC

        Jack
        It's a biological change. Not a physically acquired one. And more specifically, it's a genetic change.

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        • #64
          Re: If evolution is real...

          Originally posted by alex.siegel View Post
          It's a biological change. Not a physically acquired one. And more specifically, it's a genetic change.
          I believe the scientific definition of a species is when it cannot breed with another species. Do you have any examples of a creature that cannot breed with the previous generation? If not then creatures will always remain within their 'kind'.

          I truly am weeping here. Why do you hate Jesus so much? After the blood that He shed for you?

          YIC

          Jack
          Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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          I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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          • #65
            Re: If evolution is real...

            Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
            I believe the scientific definition of a species is when it cannot breed with another species. Do you have any examples of a creature that cannot breed with the previous generation? If not then creatures will always remain within their 'kind'.

            I truly am weeping here. Why do you hate Jesus so much. After the blood that He shed for you?

            YIC

            Jack
            Well I don't know if you how Evolution works, but essentially what happens if a group of say, squirrels, somehow gets trapped somewhere, eventually the trapped ones will not be able to have kids wih the original ones.

            Also, I don't hate Jesus. I'm sure he was a great man. But he wasn't the son of a supreme being and never did any miracles.

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            • #66
              Re: If evolution is real...

              Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
              And people have been breeding goldfish for thousands of years. So why are there still goldfish? Why haven't they turned into something else?
              Because they don't have to. Evolution only occurs if an organism is in danger of dying out, and needs to adapt to their current environment.

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              • #67
                Re: If evolution is real...

                Originally posted by alex.siegel View Post
                Well I don't know if you how Evolution works, but essentially what happens if a group of say, squirrels, somehow gets trapped somewhere, eventually the trapped ones will not be able to have kids wih the original ones.

                Also, I don't hate Jesus. I'm sure he was a great man. But he wasn't the son of a supreme being and never did any miracles.
                I'm struggling to see your hateful words through the tears. Every morning is the same for me now, my laptop and moist tissues. Don't you understand? Sin was brought into the world through the actions of one man. You share that burden, that is why you are full of depravity. God sent himself down as man to temporarily die to take those sins away from you. All you have to do is open your heart, accept the sweet blood of Jesus and praise Him relentlessly for eternity. Is that much to ask?

                Forget this evolution mumbo jumbo. Get down on your knees now and let Him enter you.

                YIC

                Jack
                Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

                sigpic

                I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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                • #68
                  Re: If evolution is real...

                  Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
                  I'm struggling to see your hateful words through the tears. Every morning is the same for me now, my laptop and moist tissues. Don't you understand? Sin was brought into the world through the actions of one man. You share that burden, that is why you are full of depravity. God sent himself down as man to temporarily die to take those sins away from you. All you have to do is open your heart, accept the sweet blood of Jesus and praise Him relentlessly for eternity. Is that much to ask?

                  Forget this evolution mumbo jumbo. Get down on your knees now and let Him enter you.

                  YIC

                  Jack
                  The problem is, I don think any of that happened. The Bible is not proof, because for all you know, a group of people could have pretended to be visited by God.

                  Answer this for me. What makes other religions such as Islam and Buddhism wrong, but yours right? Muslims also have "evidence" that they're right. Why are hey wrong?

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                  • #69
                    Re: If evolution is real...

                    Originally posted by alex.siegel View Post
                    The problem is, I don think any of that happened. The Bible is not proof, because for all you know, a group of people could have pretended to be visited by God.

                    Answer this for me. What makes other religions such as Islam and Buddhism wrong, but yours right? Muslims also have "evidence" that they're right. Why are hey wrong?
                    I cannot speak to you further. I have used my last tissue. I must sleep now.


                    REPENT!

                    YIC

                    Jack
                    Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

                    sigpic

                    I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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                    • #70
                      Re: If evolution is real...

                      Originally posted by alex.siegel View Post
                      The problem is, I don think any of that happened. The Bible is not proof, because for all you know, a group of people could have pretended to be visited by God.

                      Answer this for me. What makes other religions such as Islam and Buddhism wrong, but yours right? Muslims also have "evidence" that they're right. Why are hey wrong?
                      And could some body pretend to create a Universe? You don't think people would not notice?

                      God bless.
                      1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

                      Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

                      Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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                      • #71
                        Re: If evolution is real...

                        Originally posted by Dr Laurence Niles View Post
                        And could some body pretend to create a Universe? You don't think people would not notice?

                        God bless.
                        Your argument that the Universe and intelligence requires a creator is a circular one. If the Universe and Intelligence require a creator, why does God not? We can assume that he was always there, but the thought that matter was always there? HERESY!!

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                        • #72
                          Re: If evolution is real...

                          Originally posted by alex.siegel View Post
                          Your argument that the Universe and intelligence requires a creator is a circular one. If the Universe and Intelligence require a creator, why does God not? We can assume that he was always there, but the thought that matter was always there? HERESY!!
                          Before I sleep I will leave you with one simple question.

                          Can the philosophical nothing not exist?

                          What are your thoughts?

                          YIC

                          Jack
                          Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

                          sigpic

                          I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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                          • #73
                            Re: If evolution is real...

                            Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
                            Before I sleep I will leave you with one simple question.

                            Can the philosophical nothing not exist?

                            What are your thoughts?

                            YIC

                            Jack
                            Hmm. The wording of that question makes it confusing...
                            Well, let's see. I do suppose that "nothingness" can exist. For example, what do you feel while sleeping, if you do not dream? That is almost certainly the state of nothingness. If you mean by physical, I do also suppose that if there are other Universes, there could be one with absolutely nothing, but we aren't in one of those. There is stuff here. I almost certainly believe that nothingness can exist, but it simply is not present in the world we live in. It never has been, and never will.

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                            • #74
                              Re: If evolution is real...

                              Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
                              I'm struggling to see your hateful words through the tears. Every morning is the same for me now, my laptop and moist tissues. Don't you understand? Sin was brought into the world through the actions of one man. You share that burden, that is why you are full of depravity. God sent himself down as man to temporarily die to take those sins away from you. All you have to do is open your heart, accept the sweet blood of Jesus and praise Him relentlessly for eternity. Is that much to ask?

                              Forget this evolution mumbo jumbo. Get down on your knees now and let Him enter you.

                              YIC

                              Jack

                              Also, yes. I do find it a bit much to ask that I worship, without doubt, an entity which may or may not be entirely real, for the rest of eternity. I find that to be an incredible amount to ask, actually.

                              Also, my mornings are the same. My laptop and most tissues. But I'm not crying (if you know what I mean)

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                              • #75
                                Re: If evolution is real...

                                Originally posted by dodgydogman View Post
                                Then why are there no sharks in my goldfish bowel. I have been breeding goldfish for a few days now and absolutely nothing has evolved! Surely if that atheist theory mumbo jumbo was correct, instead of just being really confusing, something will have evolved by now!

                                Roight?
                                Cause if that did happen it would be a miracle of god. Although you could observe a tiny bit of evolution. Given the theory of punctuated equilibrium, natural selection basically only takes place when there is a lot of selective pressure. So if you were to artificially select only certain types of goldfish, for example only gold fish with fins over a certain length and breed them. You would eventually, given you do this for a long time have, and i do mean very very long, theoretically, you should have a new type of fish

                                Hope that cleared it up

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