[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

"Science books" aren't evidence; they're citing evidence. It's a secondary source. It's a compilation of data, statistics, tests and experiments done by certified people with degrees in the real world. The Bible is a copy of a copy of copies of translations written by people two thousand years ago who burned witches, stoned kids, and believed that leeches would cure diseases.

Do you realise how foolish you sound? God makes it very clear:

Deuteronomy 4:2 "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."

So if anything about the KJV(1611) was not accurate secondary evidence He would have fixed it.

Or don't you think an omnipotent being could acheive such a feat?

Are you honestly telling us that an omnipotent being could not do this? I think you need to read the dictionary, young lady.

God bless.

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

"Science books" aren't evidence; they're citing evidence. It's a secondary source. It's a compilation of data, statistics, tests and experiments done by certified people with degrees in the real world. The Bible is a copy of a copy of copies of translations written by people two thousand years ago who burned witches, stoned kids, and believed that leeches would cure diseases.

My nieghbour was certified last week and that didn't qualify him to do experiments. It did, however, qualify him to be committed to a high security mental facility for the criminally insane. Your reasoning is flawed.

As for the Bible (KJV 1611), It is a compilation of data, statistics, tests and experiments done by God. Once again God wins.

[Russell Holbeck]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

How does anybody know that the Bible is trustworthy scripture that gives evidence of how the world actually works?
Somebody please answer this thoroughly, well, logically, and with statistical and/or scientific evidence without using any text within the Bible or the following arguments:
1. I know the Bible is true because God said so
2. I know the Bible is true because I know it in my heart
3. I know the Bible is true because of any other personal experience

Hello Maruko101.

It is OK to trust in God because God told us it is OK to trust in Him if you look at Philippians 2:24 it says:

But I trust in the Lord that I also myself shall come shortly.

Some people will say that this sounds naughty but it is not it is from a letter written by Paul who used to be named Saul who came to Jesus after seeing Jesus in a burning bush several years after Jesus died.

Thank you.

Rusty

[maruko101]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

"Science books" aren't evidence; they're citing evidence. It's a secondary source. It's a compilation of data, statistics, tests and experiments done by certified people with degrees in the real world. The Bible is a copy of a copy of copies of translations written by people two thousand years ago who burned witches, stoned kids, and believed that leeches would cure diseases.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

How does anybody know that the Bible is trustworthy scripture that gives evidence of how the world actually works?
Somebody please answer this thoroughly, well, logically, and with statistical and/or scientific evidence without using any text within the Bible or the following arguments:

Why don't you explain the the trustworthiness of your science books without citing them as evidence?

This is a Christian forum and we will quote the Bible.

1. I know the Bible is true because God said so
2. I know the Bible is true because I know it in my heart
3. I know the Bible is true because of any other personal experience

Yes.

[maruko101]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

How does anybody know that the Bible is trustworthy scripture that gives evidence of how the world actually works?
Somebody please answer this thoroughly, well, logically, and with statistical and/or scientific evidence without using any text within the Bible or the following arguments:
1. I know the Bible is true because God said so
2. I know the Bible is true because I know it in my heart
3. I know the Bible is true because of any other personal experience

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

Okay, but does it say how water behave (i.e. if it take part in a cycle or not)? Because that is what we are really interested in right now.

You didn't read the whole thread did you.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showpost.php?p=810522&postcount=203

[DishonestDisagreer]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

You are putting words into the sweet mouth of Jesus. The fact of the matter is that the Biblical account of creation is true. The waters were divided. Then the firmament was opened up. Then the excess waters slipped off the edges of the Earth, passing by Hell and the pillars of creation on their way to infinity. The Bible is very clear on this, not in a single verse, but based on summary knowledge of His Word.

You have to read the whole Bible to grasp the big picture, friend. A single quote could never open the eyes of the damned in the way you are so earnestly hoping.

Okay, but does it say how water behave (i.e. if it take part in a cycle or not)? Because that is what we are really interested in right now.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

Thank you, I was upset before.

What is the truth? That water does not recycle? Is that what you consider to be true? It is not true. Is there a bible verse that says so that you can rely on? Is there any scientific study that says so? Show me. If not, stop calming it: because then you have no proof that neither you nor I will accept.

You are putting words into the sweet mouth of Jesus. The fact of the matter is that the Biblical account of creation is true. The waters were divided. Then the firmament was opened up. Then the excess waters slipped off the edges of the Earth, passing by Hell and the pillars of creation on their way to infinity. The Bible is very clear on this, not in a single verse, but based on summary knowledge of His Word.

You have to read the whole Bible to grasp the big picture, friend. A single quote could never open the eyes of the damned in the way you are so earnestly hoping.

[DishonestDisagreer]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

What do you mean, "for no good reason"? What better reason to teach a child than the Truth©?

Thank you for the apology. I forgive you.

Thank you, I was upset before.

What is the truth? That water does not recycle? Is that what you consider to be true? It is not true. Is there a bible verse that says so that you can rely on? Is there any scientific study that says so? Show me. If not, stop calming it: because then you have no proof that neither you nor I will accept.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

I am sorry for my rudeness. You are right, it was uncalled for. However, I do not in any way insult or question any religious beliefs with my statement. I do however point out how incredibly wrong this "calculation" is and it really angered me that someone would teach a child that the water cycle works like that for no good reason. God works perfectly fine without someone messing with these facts.

Hello, btw.

What do you mean, "for no good reason"? What better reason to teach a child than the Truth(c)?

Thank you for the apology. I forgive you.

[DishonestDisagreer]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

Well that's a fine How Do You Do from a person enjoying the privilege of using our friendly forum without so much as a "Hello." Although the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum can be read HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Goodness, do all mothers of atheists raise their demon-spawn to be so rude?

I am sorry for my rudeness. You are right, it was uncalled for. However, I do not in any way insult or question any religious beliefs with my statement. I do however point out how incredibly wrong this "calculation" is and it really angered me that someone would teach a child that the water cycle works like that for no good reason. God works perfectly fine without someone messing with these facts.

Hello, btw.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

This is just being stupid!

Well that's a fine How Do You Do from a person enjoying the privilege of using our friendly forum without so much as a "Hello." Although the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum can be read HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Goodness, do all mothers of atheists raise their demon-spawn to be so rude?

[DishonestDisagreer]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

Friends -

We all know how much the atheists love their "science". Well, a parent in my congregation sent me this little graphic, one of a series (she's trying to track down the original source). She's hoping to put together a Creation Science home school workbook!



I particularly like that the author has done the math in the footnotes.

For the first: Water that is once consumed does not simply disappear… Water is recycled through what is rather boringly called the Water cycle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cycle

Secondly, are you people seriously that inept that you think that water just goes into our bodies and stays there? If you drank 2 litres of water each day and it stayed there you would gain 2 kg of weight each day for your whole life (not counting all the food you eat, would that stay inside too???). What do you think happens to pee? Dirty water comes out! And it isn’t just gathered in some kind of underground reservoir for eternity; it is cleaned and sent out in the lake or ocean again. Then another building pick up some water, clean that too and pipe it to your house where you drink it again. Ever heard of a sewage treatment or Water treatment?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewage_treatment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_treatment

Believing in this nonsense has nothing to do with being Christian! This is just being stupid!

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

I was a woman, and everybody 'knew' that I had to be one because of my dumb posts.

Please, this is not a libfem chat room.

If you have a point please make it; but really, this is a site for Jesus. Would you walk into a church and start spouting calculus in a attempt to disprove Jesus?

Of course not.

Please check you prejudices in at the door.

YIC