[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

Everyone
theory = something that has been repeatedly proven to be true.
These are scientific theories. Do not get them confused with hypothesis.

Ahem.

Definition of THEORY

1
: the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another

2
: abstract thought : speculation

3
: the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art <music theory>

4
a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action <her method is based on the theory that all children want to learn>
b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances —often used in the phrase in theory <in theory, we have always advocated freedom for all>

5
: a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena <the wave theory of light>

6
a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation
b : an unproved assumption : conjecture
c : a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject <theory of equations>

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory

No, not even in secular science is theory taken as something that has repeatedly proven to be true. If it had been proven true it would be a fact. Not theory.

Are you a victim of public school or did you just sleep during the classes?

[Pastaguy]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

Ahem.

No, not even in secular science is theory taken as something that has repeatedly proven to be true. If it had been proven true it would be a fact. Not theory.

Are you a victim of public school or did you just sleep during the classes?

May I ask where you got this from?

[Pastaguy]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

Didn't notice the link.

[RDawkins55]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

Sense 1 (our sense): A scheme or system of ideas or statements held as an explanation or account of a group of facts or phenomena; a hypothesis that has been confirmed or established by observation or experiment, and I propounded or accepted as accounting for the known facts; a statement of what are held to be the general laws, principles, or causes of something known to be observed.

Sense 2 (What creationists think it means): A hypothesis as an explanation; hence, a mere hypothesis, speculation, conjecture; an idea or set of ideas about something; an individual view or notion.

[Paragon of virtue]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

Sense 1 (our sense): A scheme or system of ideas or statements held as an explanation or account of a group of facts or phenomena; a hypothesis that has been confirmed or established by observation or experiment, and I propounded or accepted as accounting for the known facts; a statement of what are held to be the general laws, principles, or causes of something known to be observed.

Sense 2 (What creationists think it means): A hypothesis as an explanation; hence, a mere hypothesis, speculation, conjecture; an idea or set of ideas about something; an individual view or notion.

I agree with your definition completely, and by definition the "scientists" wrongly refer to EVILution as a scientific theory (sense 1) when it should be classified as a colloquial hypothesis (sense 2) , because they cannot "confirm nor deny their hypothesis through observation or experiment" There is no eyewitness to past events to cover 'observation' and the 'experiments' cannot be exactly replicated because, again the scientists must speculate on the conditions of the Earth at that time as they try to simulate the conditions of Earth's past. It is simply impossible to do. "Facts" in the sense of science are like shifting sands. They change time and time again, and just because many people hold the "facts" to be true--general laws, principles, or "known observations" means nothing to me. Romans 3:4. I believe that God gave us all free will to make our own choices. If you choose to deny God and go to hell with your homer buddies then have at it, but in your black, depraved hearts you should on a purely intellectual level acknowledge that it takes as much or more faith to believe in your "scientific" theory as it does to believe in God.

[Eddie James]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

I agree with your definition completely, and by definition the "scientists" wrongly refer to EVILution as a scientific theory (sense 1) when it should be classified as a colloquial hypothesis (sense 2) ,


But it's not, evolution is classified, in literature, biology, geology, physics, astronomy, in fact, it accepted in every field of every subject, including, 70% of theologians
As "Description1" not "2"


because they cannot "confirm nor deny their hypothesis through observation or experiment" There is no eyewitness to past events to cover 'observation' and the 'experiments' cannot be exactly replicated because, again the scientists must speculate on the conditions of the Earth at that time as they try to simulate the conditions of Earth's past. It is simply impossible to do. "Facts" in the sense of science are like shifting sands. They change time and time again, and just because many people hold the "facts" to be true--general laws, principles, or "known observations" means nothing to me. Romans 3:4. I believe that God gave us all free will to make our own choices




Which is fine, they don't have to mean anything to you, they WILL remain FACTS regardless of your subjective position to them, even to you

But to give a more logical analogy, one I use often.

Most murderers are convicted and sentenced in the same way. Rarely does anyone actually witness the act of murder take place, instead an investigator will retrieve the evidence and therefore provide a "beyond all reasonable doubt" meaning with the absence of all unproven absurdity it IS fact.



. If you choose to deny God and go to hell with your homer buddies then have at it, but in your black, depraved hearts you should on a purely intellectual level acknowledge that it takes as much or more faith to believe in your "scientific" theory as it does to believe in God.

Completely false, illogical, bigoted and if you don't mind me saying childish statement

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

Completely false, illogical, bigoted and if you don't mind me saying childish statement

Dear Godmocking Monkey-Worshiper;

Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of worshiping satan and sodomizing anyone with a dollar to post this hateful message. The Holy Bible tells us that we are actually Blessed by your persecution! Thanks for proving that we're right.

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can't wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we'll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

[Eddie James]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

I agree with your definition completely, and by definition the "scientists" wrongly refer to EVILution as a scientific theory (sense 1) when it should be classified as a colloquial hypothesis (sense 2) , because they cannot "confirm nor deny their hypothesis through observation or experiment" There is no eyewitness to past events to cover 'observation' and the 'experiments' cannot be exactly replicated because, again the scientists must speculate on the conditions of the Earth at that time as they try to simulate the conditions of Earth's past. It is simply impossible to do. "Facts" in the sense of science are like shifting sands. They change time and time again, and just because many people hold the "facts" to be true--general laws, principles, or "known observations" means nothing to me. Romans 3:4. I believe that God gave us all free will to make our own choices. If you choose to deny God and go to hell with your homer buddies then have at it, but in your black, depraved hearts you should on a purely intellectual level acknowledge that it takes as much or more faith to believe in your "scientific" theory as it does to believe in God.

Dear Godmocking Monkey-Worshiper;

Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of worshiping satan and sodomizing anyone with a dollar to post this hateful message. The Holy Bible tells us that we are actually Blessed by your persecution! Thanks for proving that we're right.



Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can't wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we'll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

Huh Pastor we meet again
First: "Godmocking Monkey-Worshiper"? I don't know why you guys think making comments like this is offensive, it's like the "fag loving" thing. As an atheist "Godmocking" is surly going to be reasonable assumption, and monkey lover? well in the absence of a deity in my reality, I do think People are amazing, and in this world on nonsense and chaos, humans have brought, redemption, organisation, morality and significance etc, to life on Earth, and out of 7 billion humans, it's only the extreme minority that ruin it, with crime, and inhumane acts. And as humans are bi-pedal apes, of the genus homo-sapian, with a ll that said i could definitely be considered a monkey worshipper.
So yet another true statement



Worshipping satan is ridiculous for me as an atheist



Nothing wrong with sodomy, and we use pound sterling over here not dollars



Well I haven't proved you right, that was a sort of "stab in the dark" statement wasn't it? And I'm glad that you'll find salvation in my fictional persecution
What else do want me say?
If you ask me a genuine non-bigoted question using intelligence then you have a chance of making me look silly, but if you keep throwing out bigoted nonsense then you won't
Thanks again Pastor

[Pastaguy]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

Completely false, illogical, bigoted and if you don't mind me saying childish statement

Finally, someone who knows what they're talking about.

[Pastaguy]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

Dear Godmocking Monkey-Worshiper;

Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of worshiping satan and sodomizing anyone with a dollar to post this hateful message. The Holy Bible tells us that we are actually Blessed by your persecution! Thanks for proving that we're right.



Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can't wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we'll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

Just back from chatting with Lucy Fur, who I don't believe in.
As anyone with an iq above 70 will tell you, humans DID NOT evolve from monkeys. No real scientist ever said that we evolve from monkeys. Maybe someone told you this and you believed this, but we DID NOT. We share a common ancestor, but we did not evolve from them. That is why I hate it when some uneducated people say "If we evolved from monkeys then why aren't the monkeys turning into people?".

[MagicCarp]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

Huh Pastor we meet again
First: "Godmocking Monkey-Worshiper"? I don't know why you guys think making comments like this is offensive, it's like the "fag loving" thing. As an atheist "Godmocking" is surly going to be reasonable assumption, and monkey lover? well in the absence of a deity in my reality, I do think People are amazing, and in this world on nonsense and chaos, humans have brought, redemption, organisation, morality and significance etc, to life on Earth, and out of 7 billion humans, it's only the extreme minority that ruin it, with crime, and inhumane acts. And as humans are bi-pedal apes, of the genus homo-sapian, with a ll that said i could definitely be considered a monkey worshipper.
So yet another true statement



Worshipping satan is ridiculous for me as an atheist



Nothing wrong with sodomy, and we use pound sterling over here not dollars



Well I haven't proved you right, that was a sort of "stab in the dark" statement wasn't it? And I'm glad that you'll find salvation in my real persecution
What else do want me say?
If you ask me a genuine non-bigoted question using intelligence then you have a chance of making me look silly, but if you keep throwing out bigoted nonsense then you won't
Thanks again Pastor

Dude, You have something in common with us (pasta,Dawkins and I )
We're both atheist and British!!!

Lucy fur bless ya XD

[RDawkins55]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

Read some of Richard Dawkins books. I suggest his most recent, also, evolution can be proven and has been proven through a test. I said earlier to search the Iron Cay Lizards. As I said, scientists put lizards on an uninhabited island. Years later they find the lizards though now evolved better suited to their environment with better jaw structure and digestive systems.

[Pastaguy]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

Ahem.

No, not even in secular science is theory taken as something that has repeatedly proven to be true. If it had been proven true it would be a fact. Not theory.

Are you a victim of public school or did you just sleep during the classes?

I hope you feel the same about the theory of gravity.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

As I said, scientists put lizards on an uninhabited island. Years later they find the lizards though now evolved better suited to their environment with better jaw structure and digestive systems.

Friend, all this proves is God's awesome mercy!

[Pastaguy]

Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

Friend, all this proves is God's awesome mercy!

So that would mean you believe in evolution if you think that is "God's awesome mercy".