Cigarettes help prove evolution!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

From the following link, simple cigarettes help prove the theory of evolution! :

http://rnaworld.bio.ku.edu/evolve/flyers/evolution_proof_layout2.pdf

So from this link (which I unfortunately must post and cannot quote due to the format) the simple cigarette directly shows how the theory of evolution applies.

No evolution? Then no lung cancer either!
So put that in your cigarettes and smoke em.

[Talitha]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

How can you believe this Mumbo-Jumbo?
I smoke 100 a day just as Jesus ©did. I haven't died of Lung Cancer, neither did Jesus©

Everyone knows Jesus© was a smoker.
Job 41:20
Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

How can you believe this Mumbo-Jumbo?
I smoke 100 a day just as Jesus ©did. I haven't died of Lung Cancer, neither did Jesus©

Everyone knows Jesus© was a smoker.
Job 41:20
Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron

My, my, they had cigarettes? Lol.
The point is that if your lungs were examined and you keep up with your smoking, the likelihood of your getting cancer or some other smoking-related illness would be very high.

But that's not the point the point! The point is, that is the answer whenever some creationist blabs on about 'oh show us this or show us that to prove evolution!'
Those same idiots wouldn't have believed in lung cancer back then, either.

[Jesus is Lord]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

From the following link, simple cigarettes help prove the theory of evolution! :

http://rnaworld.bio.ku.edu/evolve/flyers/evolution_proof_layout2.pdf

So from this link (which I unfortunately must post and cannot quote due to the format) the simple cigarette directly shows how the theory of evolution applies.

No evolution? Then no lung cancer either!
So put that in your cigarettes and smoke em.

You can to quote it, PDFs can be copied from.

Think There's No Proof For Evolution? Have a Cigarette!

Many people who support the recent state board of education s decision to de-emphasize evolution justify their stance by claiming a lack of hard, empirical evidence in support of evolution.

Apparently, the only evidence these people will accept in support of evolution would be to make cells or new species from scratch in a test tube. But to say that the only valid scientific conclusions are those that are founded on direct experiments is a fallacious, if popularly-held, idea.

Take smoking, for example. There is no direct, laboratory test that can prove that smoking causes cancer. After all, how could investigators design a direct experiment to evaluate smoking s effect on lung cancer?

They would have to give one group real cigarettes, another group fake cigarettes, and see which ones develop cancer. Ethical problems of giving known carcinogens to humans aside, the study would be a logistical nightmare. (What is a fake cigarette anyway?)

Nevertheless, epidemiologists have amassed an extremely large body of knowledge demonstrating the health risks of smoking. They have carried out cohort studies and observed that a large proportion of smokers develop lung cancer. They have carried out case-control studies where large proportions of people with lung cancer were found to have smoked. One population-based study tracked the incidence of smoking and lung cancer over time and found that the data of the latter mirrored that of the former but displaced 30 years behind.

With studies like these, even without a direct experiment, doctors can say unequivocally that smoking causes lung cancer.

The application to evolution theory is obvious. Critics of evolution are quick to point out that scientists cannot use direct experiments to prove evolution. Knowing that evolution supposedly happened over eons and calling for controlled duplication of speciation in the laboratory, these people have congratulated themselves, confident that scientists could never carry out such a direct experiment.

And, of course, we can t. But, if we put the same restrictions on what makes valid evidence, we also can t say that smoking causes lung cancer.

Anybody feel like lighting up?

Fact is, science uses many different types of studies besides direct experiments to establish evidence. No one has seen a quark, yet we can infer their existence by observing collisions between subatomic particles. Even without witnesses, people are often convicted of crimes based on inferential, after-the-fact evidence. Neither has anyone duplicated radical speciation in the lab. But whoever calls evolution invalid just because no such direct experiment has yet been performed in a laboratory should probably go smoke a cigarette.

Essay by Burt Humburg. [bhumburg@netscape.net]
Consider joining KCFS. [http://www.kcfs.org] Think There"s No Proof For Evolution? Have a Cigarette!

What a load of claptrap. They may be right about about some things, such as proving evolution and lung cancer require the same type of experiments but they are dead wrong with some things. The same experiments that can be used to "prove" evolution can be used to prove Creationism. The truth is nobody can completely prove where we came from. The Bible tells us that there is no evolution and as the Bible was written by God, who created everything, it is right. One can assume He would know better than anybody if we evolved from monkeys or if we were created from dust.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

What a load of claptrap. They may be right about about some things, such as proving evolution and lung cancer require the same type of experiments but they are dead wrong with some things. The same experiments that can be used to "prove" evolution can be used to prove Creationism. The truth is nobody can completely prove where we came from. The Bible tells us that there is no evolution and as the Bible was written by God, who created everything, it is right. One can assume He would know better than anybody if we evolved from monkeys or if we were created from dust.

Well I tried to copy and you don't want to know what happened when I pasted....something about this computer. Anyway...
How can you prove creationism? Scientific evidence so far supports evolution.
Do you have any evidence besides what's written in the bible to support creationism? Any at all?
Not to mention the dating problem. The earth is billions of years old, not 6000. All scientific evidence and world histories support this, except the rubbish written in the bible.

Yes, some of the evidence evolution needs is missing. But at least there IS evidence of evolution. There is no evidence to support creationism.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

So your monkey-worshipping scientists want me to believe that Adam would not have gotten lung cancer from smoking, but I would? All because of this evilution theory? HA! You kooks really crack me up sometimes!!

Don't you know that cigarettes do not and never have caused lung cancer? GOD does. Who do you think created cancer? God did! Not some secular fool who thinks we magically grew out of a bowl of soup. When really bad things happen (like you get eaten by wild beasts, get killed in war, get sick and die, etc.), then you'll know that it was God that did it to you.

Ezekiel 14:13 Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it:
14:14 Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.
14:15 If I cause noisome beasts to pass through the land, and they spoil it, so that it be desolate, that no man may pass through because of the beasts:
14:16 Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters; they only shall be delivered, but the land shall be desolate.
14:17 Or if I bring a sword upon that land, and say, Sword, go through the land; so that I cut off man and beast from it:
14:18 Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters, but they only shall be delivered themselves.
14:19 Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast:
14:20 Though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.
14:21 For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast?

You know, it actually brings me physical joy to quote from my favorite book of the Holy Bible! GLORY!!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

So your monkey-worshipping scientists want me to believe that Adam would not have gotten lung cancer from smoking, but I would? All because of this evilution theory? HA! You kooks really crack me up sometimes!!

It doesn't say that at ALL. It says that it took time to be able to prove cigarettes cause lung cancer. That no direct tests to prove it but it is evident over time.
Same as evolution. There's no 'quick-fix' test to prove it, doesn't mean nothing can!

Don't you know that cigarettes do not and never have caused lung cancer? GOD does. Who do you think created cancer? God did! Not some secular fool who thinks we magically grew out of a bowl of soup. When really bad things happen (like you get eaten by wild beasts, get killed in war, get sick and die, etc.), then you'll know that it was God that did it to you.

Don't believe it? Take a look at your next cigarette packet. Most of them say on the box SMOKING CAUSES LUNG CANCER...and the cigarette companies have to print it!
If those people who died of lung cancer who smoked never smoked then they wouldn't have died that way, with a hole in their throat to add to it!

You know, it actually brings me physical joy to quote from my favorite book of the Holy Bible! GLORY!!

The book of Zeke, of course. old

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

Van Hellbound,

How exactly does a complete lack of evidence for the theory that cigarettes cause cancer help support evilution?

No transitionary fossils.
No record of species metamorphosis.
Nadda.
Zip.
Zero.
Cats will always be cats. Monkeys are still monkeys. No animals are changing into entirely new species. None ever have. Even your fork tongued psuedo-scientist gods claim that there was an "explosion" of life at one point in time.

Evilution is just another hair brained theory cooked up my secular satanist to discredit Jesus.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

Say what you like, but missing pieces or no, at least there ARE pieces in the puzzle that support evolution. Aside from a book that's been culled and edited many times over, written by humans, what evidence do YOU have for creationism?
I'll tell you. You have, to quote your own words:
Nadda.
Zip.
Zero.

Argue as you will, but 'the bible says so' does not count for evidence. If it did, then in a court of law, the judge and jury would accept 'I didn't do it because such and such/I said so' as evidence.
But they don't, do they?

[Petal]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

I smoke 100 a day just as Jesus ©did. I haven't died of Lung Cancer, neither did Jesus©

Miss.Talitha, i commends you for takin a true christian™ stands againsts politickle correctniss cuz there be alotta mean stuff folk say about smokers an it just not true

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

Rachael, that "study" is a load of crap.
People die from cancer because JESUS wants them to die from cancer, not because they inhale smoke or some such rubbish.

If smoking causes cancer, then how come one can get cancer, in lets say, your bowels?
The smoke never reaches that part of your body! And what if one don't even smoke? You can still get cancer!

Why does one get cancer then?
Through the will of Jesus of course, how else!
So sciencie as well as evilution, is rubbish because they don't take God's will into account.
There is no evilution taking place either, I've never seen a rock turn into a living being. Have you?
No, of course you haven't.

Besides; if we evolved then we wouldn't have souls either, because neither animals nor rocks have any.
Our souls disprove evilution!
We really need to outlaw this stupid theory in favor of intelligent design.
The lie of evilution is from satan, but I suppose that's why you support it, isn't it?
After all, you support your dark master every chance you get.
I really wonder why we even allow a dimwitted harlot like you in here sometimes..

[Talitha]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

Personally, I prefer puffing on a Camel.



It's not only a Godly© pastime but according to the Cigarette manufacturers it also helps your disposition.
I tried quitting once. I now get all the free Cigarettes I need.

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

Say what you like, but missing pieces or no, at least there ARE pieces in the puzzle that support evolution.

Name one.

Aside from a book that's been culled and edited many times over, written by humans, what evidence do YOU have for creationism?

I've never used any such book? Were you describing the Book of Mormon?

Anyway, back to the subject. The Bible KJV 1611 and our very existence proves creationism.

I'll tell you. You have, to quote your own words:
Nadda.
Zip.
Zero.

You're already aware of the proof that Jesus created everything. You're embarrassing yourself, Racheal.

Argue as you will, but 'the bible says so' does not count for evidence. If it did, then in a court of law, the judge and jury would accept 'I didn't do it because such and such/I said so' as evidence.
But they don't, do they?

I could care less about what some godless secular court thinks.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

How can you prove creationism? Scientific evidence so far supports evolution.
Do you have any evidence besides what's written in the bible to support creationism? Any at all?

How can you prove evilution? Biblical evidence so far supports creationism. Do you have any evidence besides what's written in scientific studies to support evilution? Any at all? Until we agree to accept a mutually agreeable, indisputable basis of fact, such as the infallibility of every word in the Holy KJV1611, your intransigent relativism will make genuine debate impossible.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Cigarettes help prove evolution!

Rachael, that "study" is a load of crap.
People die from cancer because JESUS wants them to die from cancer, not because they inhale smoke or some such rubbish.

If smoking causes cancer, then how come one can get cancer, in lets say, your bowels?
The smoke never reaches that part of your body! And what if one don't even smoke? You can still get cancer!

Smoking causes different types of cancer. Don't even bother to argue, even the tobacco companies have been forced to admit it, and it is now printed on boxes, along with graphic pictures. Don't even start there, you can't win.

Why does one get cancer then?
Through the will of Jesus of course, how else!
So sciencie as well as evilution, is rubbish because they don't take God's will into account.
There is no evilution taking place either, I've never seen a rock turn into a living being. Have you?
No, of course you haven't.

Life evolved from bacteria, not rocks. That rocks were around at the time doesn't mean we evolved from them. And our very nature is evident of this...study the effect of bacteria and viruses, then study ours. The two are disturbingly similar (as pointed out in The Matrix) but that's beside the point.

Besides; if we evolved then we wouldn't have souls either, because neither animals nor rocks have any.

I believe we have souls and that animals do as well. But the spiritual/metaphysical world and the physical ones are two seperate things entirely. We're talking about the evolution of the PHYSICAL world here. Please pay attention in class!

It's not only a Godly© pastime but according to the Cigarette manufacturers it also helps your disposition.
I tried quitting once. I now get all the free Cigarettes I need

Not only is smoking extremely bad for you, but doesn't that particular brand of cigarettes give people migraines? One of them does, I forget which.

Name one.

Ok, so how about the many skeletons, fossils, and remnants of ancient civilizations that they have dug up and dated, for a start?

I've never used any such book? Were you describing the Book of Mormon?

You know very well I'm talking about the KJV1611 (and any other version of the bible that's floating around).

Anyway, back to the subject. The Bible KJV 1611 and our very existence proves creationism.

There are many religious texts, each one with its own theory of creationism. Just what proof do you have that yours is any more valid than the Aztec one? The Ancient Greek one? The Egyptian one? And what's more, those others came first!

You're already aware of the proof that Jesus created everything. You're embarrassing yourself, Racheal.

There is utterly no proof, and a bunch of people like you clutching their bibles, stamping their feet and saying 'because we say so!', does not count!

I could care less about what some godless secular court thinks.

If one day you ever got accused of a crime you did not commit, I'm sure you would care, very much.