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  • Dr. Otto Bond Sr.
    Away on vacation, or very possibly deceased
    BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
    • Feb 2008
    • 177

    #1

    Science, falsely so called

    There are many false Christians out there that will tell you that science, even science that doesn't line up with the Bible, is correct. Not only is this blasphemy but it offends Jesus for saying that the book He wrote just isn't good enough, and Jesus is the last person I want mad at me. People need to learn that you can't try to line the Bible up with science. If you do that you end up with what Paul called "science falsely so called".

    1 Timothy 6:20
    20 "O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:"

    Any logical argument is based on logical axioms. If those axioms are wrong, one could create a totally logical and coherent argument that is also entirely false. For example, if I were to assume, as an axiom, that the sky is in fact green, I could create a perfectly logical and coherent argument about why the sky is green. This does not change the fact that the sky is blue. So when an atheist asks you why a good God lets bad things happen, they are assuming duality (the belief in good and evil, contrary to the belief in God and the absence of God, i.e. there is not heat and cold. There is heat and the absence of heat; if you would like to discuss this further please let me know.) is an axiom. But that is another discussion. My point here is that people need to learn to line science up with their Bible, not line their Bible up with science. Science is man's collection of knowledge. The Bible is (in part) God's collection of knowledge. If man if fallable and God is infallable, who is more likely to be right? Exactly. So if God says that He made the sun stand still to give one of his pals an advantage in battle (Genesis 1:14-19) and a scientist tells you that's impossible, you look him square in the eyes and tell him that Jesus told you so. If He created the sun, He can sure as heck tell it what to do! So next time an atheist wants to debate with you, watch for arguments based on false axioms, or as Paul said, science falsely so called. They'll try to pull that one over on you every time!
  • Ahimaaz Smith
    True Christian™
    True Christian™
    • Nov 2007
    • 2549

    #2
    Re: Science, falsely so called

    Originally posted by Dr. Otto Bond Sr. View Post
    For example, if I were to assume, as an axiom, that the sky is in fact green, I could create a perfectly logical and coherent argument about why the sky is green. This does not change the fact that the sky is blue.
    That's true. You have to wonder, how could anyone think the sky is green, when it's obvious that the sky is blue because it is filled with water?

    And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. Genesis 1:6-8

    And, yet, the anti-Christian arguments of mainstream "scientists" are no more logical. Thanks for an excellent post, Dr. Bond.

    Pour out thy fury upon the heathen that know thee not, and upon the families that call not on thy name.... Jeremiah 10:25

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    • LyingDingDong
      Unsaved Trash Known liar, Chronic masterbator
       
      • Jan 2008
      • 263

      #3
      Re: Science, falsely so called

      Originally posted by Ahimaaz Smith View Post
      That's true. You have to wonder, how could anyone think the sky is green, when it's obvious that the sky is blue because it is filled with water.
      Yes, because a book written by an imaginary friend (Jesus) says the sky is blue because it is filled with water, makes it obvious.
      I would like you to meet my imaginary friend, God.

      "...as Christians we deal with the truth, just because something is written down in a book doesn't mean it happened." - Bobby-Joe

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      • Nobar King
        Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
        Christ's Guardian
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2007
        • 23748

        #4
        Re: Science, falsely so called

        Originally posted by Dr. Otto Bond Sr. View Post

        1 Timothy 6:20
        20 "O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:"
        Dr. Bond, This passage seems to be instructing Timothy to avoid opposing science. Am I misreading it?
        May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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        • Ezekiel Bathfire
          Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
          Christ's Rottweiler
           
          • Jan 2008
          • 22924

          #5
          Re: Science, falsely so called

          Originally posted by Nobar King View Post
          Dr. Bond, This passage seems to be instructing Timothy to avoid opposing science. Am I misreading it?
          Brother Nobar, I think that the Haitian Creole Bible, pointed out in an earlier post by Brother Ahimaaz, with its idiosyncratic syntax, may be an aid to the understanding here. It fits well into the context of the KJV1611, although you do not need me to remind you that it is NOT the KJV1611.

          20Timote monchè, veye byen sou sa yo te renmèt ou a. Pa pèdi tan ou nan diskou san sans ki pa dakò ak verite a, ni nan diskisyon pou bagay anpil moun pran pou konesans.

          So there you are – I hope that’s clear – we must keep opposition to “science falsely so called”
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          “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

          Author of such illuminating essays as,
          Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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          • Dr. Otto Bond Sr.
            Away on vacation, or very possibly deceased
            BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
            • Feb 2008
            • 177

            #6
            Re: Science, falsely so called

            Originally posted by Ahimaaz Smith View Post
            Thanks for an excellent post, Dr. Bond.
            You're quite welcome. Anything to be of service.

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