[John the Monkey Worshiper]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

Now you're getting it*

That "old book" is the word of God. And the only evidence of Jesus I need is right in its pages! There is no other, and if there was it would likely be lies saying He was ordinary.


*albeit that God is not a man but the one true invisible and intangible supreme being and creator

Good. Well, the evidence of a black hole existence is in the photos and E-MC2 equation. Read that and you'll find out...

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

Hmm, yes. And you want me to believe in a man, who I've never met, nor seen, and is in control of all the 7 billion humans lives on earth. The only evidence for this man, god, is from an old book. There is no evidence of Jesus either. They might of been a person called Jesus, but no evidence that he was the son of, this so-called god.

Now you're getting it*

That "old book" is the word of God. And the only evidence of Jesus I need is right in its pages! There is no other, and if there was it would likely be lies saying He was ordinary.


*albeit that God is not a man but the one true invisible and intangible supreme being and creator

[John the Monkey Worshiper]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

So you want us to take your word for it that there is an invisible thing that it is implied that it exists because there are things you can see that are there because of the thing you can't show us. I've never heard anything so foolish.

Hmm, yes. And you want me to believe in a man, who I've never met, nor seen, and is in control of all the 7 billion humans lives on earth. The only evidence for this man, god, is from an old book. There is no evidence of Jesus either. They might of been a person called Jesus, but no evidence that he was the son of, this so-called god. I've never heard anything so foolish.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

Well, you can't photo an actually black hole, but you can see their effect on other visible things, such as light.

So you want us to take your word for it that there is an invisible thing that it is implied that it exists because there are things you can see that are there because of the thing you can't show us. I've never heard anything so foolish.

[John the Monkey Worshiper]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

Not everything that exists is illusion.

I have to wonder if you even graduated high school, much less obtained any college education.

The Bible is an illusion?

Good grief.

Well, you said illusions are everywhere, so why can't what's written in the bible be an illusion. To answer your other question, yes, I have graduated from high school.

Post them. I want to see that.

Well, you can't photo an actually black hole, but you can see their effect on other visible things, such as light.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

I know what's really true. I know that NASA is true, the ISS, mars, moon landings etc. are all true with the evidence supporting it much better than religion. I don't care if i'm confused about where i believe, because I know specified everything above has, and is happening as we speak.

Then you cannot believe in God. Which means you will rot in Hell.

One or the other. You can't believe in God who made you in His image and evolution's lies about this so-called universe you worship. One of them must be wrong.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

...We have real picture of...black holes...

Post them. I want to see that.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

So, the bible is an illusion, don't read it because it's not true. Thanks!

Not everything that exists is illusion.

I have to wonder if you even graduated high school, much less obtained any college education.

The Bible is an illusion?

Good grief.

[John the Monkey Worshiper]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

Ice Tunnel at Universal Studios.

Penn & Teller - The Magic Bullet Catch

David Copperfield - Walking through The Great Wall of China

Really.

Illusions are everywhere. Don't believe something just because you see it with your eyes, or perceive it with your senses, dear.

So, the bible is an illusion, don't read it because it's not true. Thanks!

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

Seriously? So, see the International Space Station with your own eyes is an illusion? Be able to go to the International Space Station is an illusion? Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic will be an illusion for the humans that go? Mars One will be an illusion when it's being shown on television? Looking through a telescope at a planet is an illusion? Looking at the spiral of the milky way is an illusion?

Really?

Ice Tunnel at Universal Studios.

Penn & Teller - The Magic Bullet Catch

David Copperfield - Walking through The Great Wall of China

Really.

Illusions are everywhere. Don't believe something just because you see it with your eyes, or perceive it with your senses, dear.

[John the Monkey Worshiper]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

Illusions are not evidence, dear. They are tricks of the eye and mind.

Seriously? So, see the International Space Station with your own eyes is an illusion? Be able to go to the International Space Station is an illusion? Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic will be an illusion for the humans that go? Mars One will be an illusion when it's being shown on television? Looking through a telescope at a planet is an illusion? Looking at the spiral of the milky way is an illusion?

Really?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

Even though, there's actually evidence to support it...

Illusions are not evidence, dear. They are tricks of the eye and mind.

[John the Monkey Worshiper]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

You've got it backwards. The moon landings, Voyager, space adventures will never happen because God is real. Any illusions to the contrary simply cannot be true.

Even though, there's actually evidence to support it...

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

So, basically, what you're saying, if the moon landings happened, voyager happened and future space adventure happens, then God isn't real? Well, then, I think religion is going to have a big shock in a couple of years.

You've got it backwards. The moon landings, Voyager, space adventures will never happen because God is real. Any illusions to the contrary simply cannot be true.

[John the Monkey Worshiper]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

Friend, based on the information in the Bible, traveling to the moon simply is not possible. You would have to pierce the upper firmament. Can you explain how that would be possible?
You know the parable about the chicken and the egg? God gave us the answer. God gave us the answer to everything. There is no mention of traveling to the moon in the KJV Bible.
I know you have a PhD (I have a couple of Masters, big deal) but is it so hard for you to accept that God is still a million time s smarter, wiser and just everything than you.
The chicken came first.

Learn some humility. Tell children wild stories about moo travel.


Show them fantasy pictures if you must. But be honest with the impressionable little minds. Be sure to tell them it is all lies and half baked illusions.

Well, of course, if you believe in the moon landings, then you would know that left the Lunar Laser Ranging which, still to this day, is being used to measure the distance between earth and the moon by using laser ranging. Every 'hoax' has been debunked by science. Do the bible say anything about actually going into space? If not, we all know that happened. We all know there is an International space station orbiting about our heads. We have real picture of planets, black holes, suns. We can measure the size with mathematics.

"is it so hard for you to accept that God is still a million time is smarter" - Yes, because, as you have just said, God explained everything, however, he hasn't explained anything about the Universe, which we have actually evidence for.