[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Natural Medicine and God= Life

The little 11 year old girl Died because of her parents not treating her Diabetes relying on God to help her.

They must have been false Christians. If they where True Christians the child would still have been alive. I have a lot of kids and grandkids and no one of them ever got any medicine. Yet they are all very healthy. If you pray to the LORD he will have mercy on you.

[Hebrew90]

Re: Natural Medicine and God= Life

OK do you agree with what these parents did?:


[COLOR=#0000FF ! important][COLOR=#0000FF ! important]Blind [COLOR=#0000FF ! important]faith[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] has claimed the life of a 11-year-old girl in the [COLOR=#0000FF ! important][COLOR=#0000FF ! important]state [COLOR=#0000FF ! important]of [/COLOR][COLOR=#0000FF ! important]Wisconsin[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] in the US. Her [COLOR=#0000FF ! important][COLOR=#0000FF ! important]parents[/COLOR][/COLOR] chose to pray instead of taking her to hospital.

Madeline Neumann died Sunday of a treatable form of diabetes, known as diabetic ketoacidosis, a condition that leaves too little insulin in the bod
The poor girl had probably been sick for about a month, with [COLOR=#0000FF ! important][COLOR=#0000FF ! important]symptoms[/COLOR][/COLOR] such as nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite and weakness, [COLOR=#0000FF ! important][COLOR=#0000FF ! important]Everest[/COLOR][/COLOR] Metro police Chief Dan Vergin said.


The girl’s mother, Leilani Neumann, said she and her family believed in the Bible and [COLOR=#0000FF ! important][COLOR=#0000FF ! important]healing[/COLOR][/COLOR] came from God alone.

But then they did not belong to an organized religion or faith nor were they fanatical about religion, she maintained. Certainly they had nothing against doctors.

She insisted her youngest child, a wiry girl known to wear her straight brown hair in a ponytail, was in [COLOR=#0000FF ! important][COLOR=#0000FF ! important]good [COLOR=#0000FF ! important]health[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] until recently.

"We just noticed a tiredness within the past two weeks," she said Wednesday.

"And then just the day before and that day [she died], it suddenly just went to a more serious situation. We stayed fast in prayer then."

The little 11 year old girl Died because of her parents not treating her Diabetes relying on God to help her. (that's cool that they have that Faith) but God also gave us Free Will to do something, they chose not to do anything.. whats your take on this sad story??

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

People who are sick are punished by God for doing something wrong. Medicine is not the answer, prayer is. Try to figure out what you did wrong, fix it and Jesus will make you better.

I never use medication and neither have any of my sons or grandsons. If God wants us to suffer we are supposed to suffer. Not to try to sneak out of it. It's always a signal from God and it's your job to figure out why the signal is there and what you have to do to fix it.

For example, a little while back I stepped into a bear-trap. And I assure you, that hurts a LOT! I even had to skip Bible Study because of the pain. Did I take medication? Of course not. I was an idiot for not watching where I walked. And I got what I deserved. I learned the lesson God was teaching me here.

[Hebrew90]

Re: GODS Understanding

Like i said i am not sinned i do no drugs at all, im saying that people that have disabilities should have access to them. Ima Christian i believe in the Love and forgiveness of the lord Jesus Christ.. what im seeing on this forum is disturbing and go's against everything that Jesus stands for.. Your Point of View i RESPECT, but its comparable to Muslim Fundamentalism, just how SOME Muslims teach there children to kill a christian you teach your children to hate as well..i respect your views and way of thinking but its no right. .teach about Gods Love, and forgiveness and mercy as well. what you all arfe saying that if theirs suffering individual that suffers from Glaucoma (pressure behind the eyes) you would condone them because the smoke but smoke to relieve there pressure (cannabis is the only thing that helps Glaucoma)

Christian Fundamentalism is not the way to go. Because of this Fundamentalism Christ is losing souls.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

i find this disgusting and very Offensive asshole

Your asshole is what will be sodomized by Satan for all eternity if you do not stop sinning and start following the Holy Bible and start praying to our LORD and Savior Jesus Christ.

[Hebrew90]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

Is this not what you said Ezekiel!?

"""Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire. """

i find this disgusting and very Offensive asshole.

[James Hutchins]

Re: EVERYONE

Poison oak does not have a good out come you cannot eat poision Oak and help a battle injury in Iraq. what im saying is these natural drugs are also used for good purposes. but people Abuse them. Prime example Morphine helped many troops in ALMOST every conflict. i know how it feels to be out there seeing our guys suffer without alot of these drugs operating on people so they may live would be out of the question.

.............

Son, just say No to drugs Especially you. If you claim not to be using drugs now, I'd hate to hear you attempt to communicate when on them.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: EVERYONE

Poison oak does not have a good out come you cannot eat poision Oak and help a battle injury in Iraq. what im saying is these natural drugs are also used for good purposes. but people Abuse them. Prime example Morphine helped many troops in ALMOST every conflict. i know how it feels to be out there seeing our guys suffer without alot of these drugs operating on people so they may live would be out of the question.

---the funny thing is..is i do not do any of these things and i am a Christian but when i get a infraction notice from pastor Ezekiel that says im "Scum of the earth and demons will pop out of my rectum and i shall burn in the hell fire". then that's a little offensive/creepy. You guys need to admit that things that we look as bad were put down on earth for good intentions by God but like humans are we abuse it.

That is not what your infraction said, and you know it. Or at least you would if you weren't hopped up on the devil weed all the time.

[Hebrew90]

Re: EVERYONE

Uh, Ryan, you are repeating yourself.

Again, proof those drugs are bad!

Poison oak does not have a good out come you cannot eat poision Oak and help a battle injury in Iraq. what im saying is these natural drugs are also used for good purposes. but people Abuse them. Prime example Morphine helped many troops in ALMOST every conflict. i know how it feels to be out there seeing our guys suffer without alot of these drugs operating on people so they may live would be out of the question.

---the funny thing is..is i do not do any of these things and i am a Christian but when i get a infraction notice from pastor Ezekiel that says im "Scum of the earth and demons will pop out of my rectum and i shall burn in the hell fire". then that's a little offensive/creepy. You guys need to admit that things that we look as bad were put down on earth for good intentions by God but like humans are we abuse it.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

Uh, Ryan, you are repeating yourself.

[James Hutchins]

Re: EVERYONE

Uh, Ryan, you are repeating yourself.

Again, proof those drugs are bad!

[Hebrew90]

EVERYONE

-Please Read and Listen Fellow Christians and fellow Medicinal users-

You guys put aside all hostilities and government laws.. what it really comes down to is that everything that was made by the hand of God was created to be used without excess (or Overindulgence)

-Alcohol was used for Battle injuries for 1000's of years it talks about it in the Bible for numbing the pain..used in ceremonial purposes as well like the last supper.

-The Coca plant was used as a medicinal purpose as well to treat pain and to numb parts of the body also to speed up the metabolism and to keep people awake when they are to tired, also used it for battle.

-Opium is also used for Combat injuries and suffering, used it in WW2 and Vietnam/ other war abroad aka Morphine used today for trauma patients in the ER.

-Cannabis is a Medicinal plant also, used for Stress,anxiety,eating disorders,sleep problems, Hunger in Chemo,Aids,lowered interocular eye pressure (shown to be effective for treating Glaucoma), MS,Depression,Crohns Disease,nausea,vomiting, Premenstrual Syndrome and even Ashma (if Eaten or Vaporized) all clinically tested and approved for Medicinal Purposes.

-Tobacco used as a stimulant, moves the blood faster, more oxygen to the brain (when eaten)

Great Christian People The fact of the matter is that all these plants (excluding Alcohol) have many purposes that i believe God put on this earth, the problem is that we are Human and the enough is not enough, we Love as a people to over indulge ourselves which leads to addiction.. that's when we sin, that's when we falter. All these creations by God go wrong when man gets to carried away with them. like cocaine aka coca leaf we made into a powder with 100's of other bad chemicals!! same with Nicotine it stimulates your blood but we add things to make them bad and addictive. Every Herb Every Plant, tree, living breathing thing was created by the personal hand of God to serve a purpose while down on earth including us.. whether we decide to live a over-indulgent life or not we are Gods Children. smoking,eating,vaporizing,drinking to much is Horrible!! but in small use for a good purpose (Medicinal) is Good.

-Ryan

[James Hutchins]

Re: EVERYONE

Ryan, nice try. The Bible says they are bad. End of discussion.

By your logic, eating Poison Oak is a good idea.

[Hebrew90]

EVERYONE

-Please Read and Listen Fellow Christians and fellow Medicinal users-

You guys put aside all hostilities and government laws.. what it really comes down to is that everything that was made by the hand of God was created to be used without excess (or Overindulgence)

-Alcohol was used for Battle injuries for 1000's of years it talks about it in the Bible for numbing the pain..used in ceremonial purposes as well like the last supper.

-The Coca plant was used as a medicinal purpose as well to treat pain and to numb parts of the body also to speed up the metabolism and to keep people awake when they are to tired, also used it for battle.

-Opium is also used for Combat injuries and suffering, used it in WW2 and Vietnam/ other war abroad aka Morphine used today for trauma patients in the ER.

-Cannabis is a Medicinal plant also, used for Stress,anxiety,eating disorders,sleep problems, Hunger in Chemo,Aids,lowered interocular eye pressure (shown to be effective for treating Glaucoma), MS,Depression,Crohns Disease,nausea,vomiting, Premenstrual Syndrome and even Ashma (if Eaten or Vaporized) all clinically tested and approved for Medicinal Purposes.

-Tobacco used as a stimulant, moves the blood faster, more oxygen to the brain (when eaten)

Great Christian People The fact of the matter is that all these plants (excluding Alcohol) have many purposes that i believe God put on this earth, the problem is that we are Human and the enough is not enough, we Love as a people to over indulge ourselves which leads to addiction.. that's when we sin, that's when we falter. All these creations by God go wrong when man gets to carried away with them. like cocaine aka coca leaf we made into a powder with 100's of other bad chemicals!! same with Nicotine it stimulates your blood but we add things to make them bad and addictive. Every Herb Every Plant, tree, living breathing thing was created by the personal hand of God to serve a purpose while down on earth including us.. whether we decide to live a over-indulgent life or not we are Gods Children. smoking,eating,vaporizing,drinking to much is Horrible!! but in small use for a good purpose (Medicinal) is Good.

-Ryan

[Nobar King]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

All of you guys need to get off the grass. Seriously. It really has made you stupid.