[Ebenezer Wright]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

But alcohol is used many times in the BIBLE. But everyone knows that alcohol kills 1000x more than cannabis. Actually cannabis does not kill at all. Alcohol and diseases related to it and also alcohol related accident are the biggest reason for deaths in most countries in the world. And still Jesus made wine out of alcohol, and God also created marijuana, and marijuana has not killed enyone yet. I really dont realize the hate that rises when someone tries to talk about cannabis INTELLIGENTLY without any heresays and myths.
America would NOT have been found if there was no HEMP. The sails in ships were maid out of hemp. etc etc. Learn history my friends

Boy I would love to talk to you about marijuana use. I can debate it quite well since I smoked it regularily before I was a Christian. No good can come of it! Send me a message and I will tell you just how foolish you are. Even from your post above we can tell that your brain cells are fried.

[thurman]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

Boy I would love to talk to you about marijuana use. I can debate it quite well since I smoked it regularily before I was a Christian. No good can come of it! Send me a message and I will tell you just how foolish you are. Even from your post above we can tell that your brain cells are fried.

Well how actually did you see that? Because whatr you "saw" was not the truth. I have tried marijuana about 10 times and it has been about one year a last time smoked. And I used it like once a month with my girl ( like a said ) and at the same time we ate good food we had done before and watched a good movie. Nothing bad came out of it. So what did I do wrong.
Contrary to the FACT that people using alkohol tend to have fights and loose everything ( cellphones, wallets etc ) while toxicated.
So what is so wrong about my ex-marijuana briefe use.
I guess you are generalizing marihuana users as everydat stoners. maube you were one? But reality is so much different.
By the way, marijuana use in USA ( expecially with teens ) with harsh marijuana laws is much higher than Holland, where kannabis use is allowed in coffee shops and in hotels. And by the way, I am not any uneducated teenager from Usa. Just to let you know before you try that tactics.

PS so my brains are not fried because of marijuana use. I just know the hard facts about alkohol and marijuana.
EU just released a report about the fact that alcohol IS more dangerous than alcolhol. Thats a fact.
And yes I iknow, you can use everything the wrong way. You CAN use alkohol the right way, also cannabis. You can also use them both the wrong way. But kannabis does NOT kill you. Alcohol does. Id like to see what is your response to that last statement.

[thurman]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

oh man there is no "edit" button in this forum. But anyways, my typos are due to the fact I am not a native english speaker

[Ebenezer Wright]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

oh man there is no "edit" button in this forum. But anyways, my typos are due to the fact I am not a native english speaker

How can you come on here and support something that you have only tried ten times. It is a harmful substance and nothing good comes from it. So you only had it a few times, did you get positive effects from it?

You do realize many people in accidents test postive for this drug since it slows your reflexes and thought process. Not to mention it completely screws with your memory, short term and long. 4 times the chemicals as a cigarette.

Marijuana increases your heart rate two-fold and can cause mental illness with excessive use.

What are the postives of it? Can you list some for me? You and your "gf" lit up...Then what? You sat around wasting time and watching movies and eating. Oh my! What a crazy fun day that marijuana gave you.

And quite talking like we are full supporters of alcohol! Is this a alcohol worship forum? Jesus says we can drink but not in excess. Drunkards are fools etc.

I certainly hope you don't call yourself a Christian. Do you think God's plan was to have you running around in la-la land?

And besides, I don't know what wacko Christ-hating country you are from but it is illegal in the Godly USA. And thats enough for me.

[Ebenezer Wright]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

Nothing bad came out of it. So what did I do wrong.

You could drink your own urine or eat your own excrement and nothing bad would happen. Doesn't mean I am going to do it.

Excuse my vile language above.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

You could drink your own urine or eat your own excrement and nothing bad would happen.

Of course nothing bad would happen! That's a paraphrase of scripture:

2Kgs 18:27 But Rab–shakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

The men which sat on the wall turned out just fine -- in fact they turned out better than just fine. With the LORD's help, they were able to rout the previously undefeated Assyrian army. PRAISE GOD!

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[thurman]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

First of all I am NOT here to support anything. I am just appalled by the fact that more hafardous and LETHAL substance is legal while another substance witch has NOT killed anyone ever is illegal. Lets just get that outta my chest.

You can get positive test result of cannabis if you have used cannabis lets say yesterday. It does not effect your driving but you still get positive resutl. And cannabis does not make you more active and hyped and "wanna go and drive" gracy what alcohol does. And by the way. Check this clip from BBC show fifht gear. It is NOT procannabis and anticannabis. It is just a observation video. I recommend it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3zou4F00Ic

marihuna does indeed increase your heart-rate when you use cannabis. And cannabis does NOT cause mentall illness in excessive use. It CAN activate hidden psychosis in heavyuser but it does NOT cause psychosis.
And everything cannabis does to you, you can be certain that alcohol does to you times 10. And yeas it does have more chemicals more than topacca. But then again tobacco smokers smoke a pack a day or more and many budsmokers use cannabis for example once a month and only one or two joints....cannabis can also be eaten or vaporized so there goes the cancermyth.
And did you know that TCH decreases the cancergrowth in labrats? Scientifically proven fact.

Positives for the use was that I had fun with my girl watching movie. Should it be something mindbogling? The fact that it maybe didnt do anything amazing is actually the reason why it should NOT be illegal. We just had good laught with the movie. Should a saturdayafternoon be something mind exploding?

You can be first-time teenage alcohol drinker and you can die. Some idiots in their teenage angst take a bottle of vodka and there they go.

And WHAT gives you the right say that I am from Christ-hating country? What in the world in my writing earlier gave you that impression? If you got that impression from my writing, then you are delusional.

And by the way, marijuana is NOT illegal in whole USA. It is actually pretty stupid and rediculous that you can have 25tolife in some states because of MJ and in other state it is just a minor offence. And it is also ridiculous that you can use medical MJ by the LAW in some states and then again government agencies can come and arrest you and your dying ass because you are trying to relieve your pain with MJ. That is what I call stupidity.
Marijuana has been illegal in USA only under 100 yrs and before that it was widely used. But when blacks and mexicans were to be pinpointed somehow they used cannabis as the reason why mexican should be sent back to mexico from california ( by the way USA inveded california from mexico )....so my point is that there are more political reasons than medical reason why marijuana is illegal.

And did I already tell you the facts about marijuana use in USA. Your teenagers use and try cannabis more than teenagers in countries with less tight cannabis laws. How about that? The war on drugs is a joke. It has been and it continues to be. Hardcore drugs witch DO kill are easier to access and are cheaper and still stupid governments are spending money to this stupid "war" instead of better ways to deal with things.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

How old are you, and what Godless country do you hail from?

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

But alcohol is used many times in the Bibble.

Alcohol isn't mentioned at all in the Bibble. It is mentioned in the Bible, which is God's message to you, so you might treat it with a little more respect, and a good start would be to spell it correctly. If alcohol were bad for you, God would not have let us drink it. If marijuana were so good for you, then why didn't Jesus turn water into hashish instead of wine?

Actually cannabis does not kill at all.

So smoking filtered cigarettes gives you cancer, but smoking unfiltered weed is A-OK. Ridiculous. Not to mention, have you ever seen potheads drive? I have, and it's not pretty.

Alcohol and diceases related to it and also alcohol related accident are the biggest reason for deaths in most countries in the world.

Heart disease and cancer are the biggest reason for death in all countries in the world. There is no exception.

I really dont realise the hate what rises when someone tries to talk about cannabis INTELLIGENTLY without any heresays and myths.

And yet you are the one who is spouting that hate. It's just one more example of anti-Christian bias. Once Sarah Palin becomes President, you hippies will all be put in jail for life for drug use, so you might want to consider kicking the habit now.

America would NOT have been found if there was no HEMP. The sails in ships were maid out of hemp. etc etc. Learn history my friends

OK, Popeye, if you say so.

[thurman]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

So smoking filtered cigarettes gives you cancer, but smoking unfiltered weed is A-OK. Ridiculous. Not to mention, have you ever seen potheads drive? I have, and it's not pretty.

Heart disease and cancer are the biggest reason for death in all countries in the world. There is no exception.

And yet you are the one who is spouting that hate. It's just one more example of anti-Christian bias. Once Sarah Palin becomes President, you hippies will all be put in jail for life for drug use, so you might want to consider kicking the habit now.

OK, Popeye, if you say so.

One thing only. Kannabis does not cause cancer. Do you realize that you dont have to smoke cannais?? Obviously not. I am not saying that smoking cannabis does not cause cancer. You can smoke anthing/whatever and it will eventually cause cancer. But cannabis/THC is NOT the cause of cancer when smoked. And cannabis can be eaten and vaporized.

And I am not a hippie. And dont comment my spellinb because I am not a native englist speaker. I can speak 5 languages and manage with seven.


And what I am learning from this forum is totally differerent from what Ive read from the Bibble. And I can also remeber something "turn the other cheek" and something about dont kill.
I can totally see that this forum is just a hateforum. You are no different from kk-forums, white power-forums, neonazis, fundamentalist muslism.

This is totally opposing what Christ teached all his days on the Earth. And you will see when the time comes. Hate hate hate is all I can see from this forum.- Actually I can see better behavious from atheist and almost in any other forum.
Im out for good. Keep on hating and preaching about killing. You will reap what you saw, idiots.

You brainwashed idiots.

[Ebenezer Wright]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

One thing only. Cannabis does not cause cancer. Do you realize that you don't have to smoke cannabis?? Obviously not. I am not saying that smoking cannabis does not cause cancer. You can smoke anything/whatever and it will eventually cause cancer. But cannabis/THC is NOT the cause of cancer when smoked. And cannabis can be eaten and vaporized.

And I am not a hippie. And don't comment my spelling because I am not a native English speaker. I can barely speak 5 languages and manage with seven.


And what I am learning from this forum is totally different from what I've read from the Bible. And I can also remember something "turn the other cheek" and something about don't kill.
I can totally see that this forum is just a hate forum. You are no different from KKK-forums, white power-forums, neonazis, fundamentalist Muslim.

This is totally opposing what Christ taught all his days on the Earth. And you will see when the time comes. Hate hate hate is all I can see from this forum.- Actually I can see better behaviour from atheist and almost in any other forum.
Im out for good. Keep on hating and preaching about killing. You will reap what you sow, idiots.

You brainwashed idiots.

Run along hippy! Clearly you need to go take a few hits and calm down, it sounds like your getting cranky because your "jonesing" for a hit?

You need to work a little more on your English spelling. English is the best language, you need to spend the most time studying it.

This is a True Christian™ forum. We teach and follow the KJV 1611 Bible, and nothing else.

Kill Judge

We are trying to help people by pointing out their problems! Now quit smoking all that dope, Jesus didn't put you on Earth to hang out in la-la land!!

Cancer or not, it is just pointless.

[Warrior of God]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

First of all I am NOT here to support anything. I am just appalled by the fact that more hafardous and LETHAL substance is legal while another substance witch has NOT killed anyone ever is illegal. Lets just get that outta my chest.

You can get positive test result of cannabis if you have used cannabis lets say yesterday. It does not effect your driving but you still get positive resutl. And cannabis does not make you more active and hyped and "wanna go and drive" gracy what alcohol does. And by the way. Check this clip from BBC show fifht gear. It is NOT procannabis and anticannabis. It is just a observation video. I recommend it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3zou4F00Ic

marihuna does indeed increase your heart-rate when you use cannabis. And cannabis does NOT cause mentall illness in excessive use. It CAN activate hidden psychosis in heavyuser but it does NOT cause psychosis.
And everything cannabis does to you, you can be certain that alcohol does to you times 10. And yeas it does have more chemicals more than topacca. But then again tobacco smokers smoke a pack a day or more and many budsmokers use cannabis for example once a month and only one or two joints....cannabis can also be eaten or vaporized so there goes the cancermyth.
And did you know that TCH decreases the cancergrowth in labrats? Scientifically proven fact.

Positives for the use was that I had fun with my girl watching movie. Should it be something mindbogling? The fact that it maybe didnt do anything amazing is actually the reason why it should NOT be illegal. We just had good laught with the movie. Should a saturdayafternoon be something mind exploding?

You can be first-time teenage alcohol drinker and you can die. Some idiots in their teenage angst take a bottle of vodka and there they go.

And WHAT gives you the right say that I am from Christ-hating country? What in the world in my writing earlier gave you that impression? If you got that impression from my writing, then you are delusional.

And by the way, marijuana is NOT illegal in whole USA. It is actually pretty stupid and rediculous that you can have 25tolife in some states because of MJ and in other state it is just a minor offence. And it is also ridiculous that you can use medical MJ by the LAW in some states and then again government agencies can come and arrest you and your dying ass because you are trying to relieve your pain with MJ. That is what I call stupidity.
Marijuana has been illegal in USA only under 100 yrs and before that it was widely used. But when blacks and mexicans were to be pinpointed somehow they used cannabis as the reason why mexican should be sent back to mexico from california ( by the way USA inveded california from mexico )....so my point is that there are more political reasons than medical reason why marijuana is illegal.

And did I already tell you the facts about marijuana use in USA. Your teenagers use and try cannabis more than teenagers in countries with less tight cannabis laws. How about that? The war on drugs is a joke. It has been and it continues to be. Hardcore drugs witch DO kill are easier to access and are cheaper and still stupid governments are spending money to this stupid "war" instead of better ways to deal with things.

All the usual justifications for not just illegality, but sin.


If marijuana haas anything useful to offer, let the pharmaceutical companies develope it into forms that cannot be used to corrupt youth...

Maryjane doesn't stop people driving well ?....
Where did you get that.
You ever seen anyyone tie on a good smoke haze ? then try to function.
I have ,in Afghanistan.
The jerks couldn't hold their weapons,

they thought everything was hilarious,
broke noise disipline giggling like schoolgirls viewing a greek statue,
and bitched because they had seen most of their rations off in attacks of the munchies...
Then they blubbed , like aforesaid schoolgirls after a righteous spanking ,when I put them , one by one , through a wall..
It was only a mudbrick and stucco wall, so even that wasn't as bad as they made out.

The bible is clear on booze...it advises about over-indulging , but it is clear on the status of booze as part of life.

1 Timothy 5:23
Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

People say the bible doesn't speak against drugs, but yes it does...

Matthew 27
34 They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when
he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.

Mark 15:23
And they gave him to drink wine mingled with myrrh: but he received it not.

this gall and myrrh are how the old hebrews referred to narcotic additives.

That drink Jesus was offered was traditional as it was spiked with junk to ease the pain of crucifixion.
Jesus was clear on it..
Once he knew what it was and contained...
HE SAID NO...

That's clear enough sign of how he felt about drugs.
They were , and are , a NO NO ....
They''re a sin....

[Nobar King]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

This is God's punishment for smoking the evil reefer:

Heavy marijuana use shrinks brain parts: study

Mon Jun 2, 2008
1



By Will Dunham
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Long-term heavy use of marijuana may cause two important brain structures to shrink, Australian researchers said on Monday. Brain scans showed the hippocampus and amygdala were smaller in men who were heavy marijuana users compared to nonusers, the researchers said. The men had smoked at least five marijuana cigarettes daily for on average 20 years. The hippocampus regulates memory and emotion, while the amygdala plays a critical role in fear and aggression. The study, published in the American Medical Association's journal Archives of General Psychiatry, also found the heavy cannabis users earned lower scores than the nonusers in a verbal learning task -- trying to recall a list of 15 words.

The marijuana users were more likely to exhibit mild signs of psychotic disorders, but not enough to be formally diagnosed with any such disorder, the researchers said. "These findings challenge the widespread perception of cannabis as having limited or no harmful effects on (the) brain and behavior," said Murat Yucel of ORYGEN Research Centre and the University of Melbourne, who led the study.

"Like with most things, some people will experience greater problems associated with cannabis use than others," Yucel said in an e-mail. "Our findings suggest that everyone is vulnerable to potential changes in the brain, some memory problems and psychiatric symptoms if they use heavily enough and for long enough." Among the 15 heavy marijuana users in the study, the hippocampus volume was 12 percent less and the amygdala volume was 7 percent less than in 16 men who were not marijuana users, the researchers said.

The researchers acknowledged that the study did not prove it was the marijuana and not some other factor that triggered these brain differences. But Yucel said the findings certainly suggested marijuana was the cause.

"STONED" FOR 20 YEARS
While about half of the marijuana users reported experiencing some form of paranoia and social withdrawal, only one of the nonusers reported such symptoms, Yucel said. The heavy marijuana users, average age 40, said they had used other illicit drugs less than 10 times, the researchers said. A U.S. group supporting legal sales and regulation of marijuana took issue with the findings, particularly because they were based on men who were such heavy, long-term users.

Yucel said the researchers have begun new research on the effects of both short-term and long-term and moderate and heavy use of marijuana.

So, God's gift to humanity or His curse?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

America would NOT have been found if there was no HEMP. The sails in ships were maid out of hemp. etc etc. Learn history my friends

Do you think the sailors were smoking the sails?

God created a wonderful plant with useful fiber. That doesn't mean we have to smoke it . . . We don't smoke cotton, and we don't smoke flax, do we?

But cannabis/THC is NOT the cause of cancer when smoked. And cannabis can be eaten and vaporized.

Cannabis is not THC. Cannabis is a plant, which contains THC.

If all you want is THC, you can get a LEGAL prescription for Maranol, a pill containing THC.

When smoked, cannabis will cause cancer. Smoking one joint is the equivalent to human lungs of smoking an entire pack of cigarettes. Marijuana burns at a much higher temperature and is not filtered, unlike cigarettes. So, it does much damage to the lungs and throat.

And what I am learning from this forum is totally differerent from what Ive read from the Bibble. And I can also remeber something "turn the other cheek" and something about dont kill.
I can totally see that this forum is just a hateforum. You are no different from kk-forums, white power-forums, neonazis, fundamentalist muslism.

This is totally opposing what Christ teached all his days on the Earth. And you will see when the time comes. Hate hate hate is all I can see from this forum.- Actually I can see better behavious from atheist and almost in any other forum.
Im out for good. Keep on hating and preaching about killing. You will reap what you saw, idiots.

You brainwashed idiots.

I see you're just another God-hater here to persecute us. You've read a few sentences from the Bible, and claim to know it all.

Try reading the whole thing, friend. We follow ALL of the Bible, not just the little bits that make us feel good.

I suggest you read Numbers 31 to see how God wants us to deal with nonbelievers. You can find the Bible online for free at www.bible.com.

[Ebenezer Wright]

Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

This is God's punishment for smoking the evil reefer:
So, God's gift to humanity or His curse?

Well it may be God's gift in this case. This fool will probably smoke himself to an early demise, defending some silly drug.

I wouldn't be surprised if he already smoked away half of his brain.