This issue is far too divisive

[Jacques Anape]

I'm all for debate among Christians, but am I alone in feeling that the emphasis placed on the whole issue of creationism has gotten totally of hand? Every Christian forum on the web seems to be dominated by discussions about creationism and homosexuality. Has it occurred to anyone else that, as Christians, we might have more pressing matters to concern us?

How about we talk instead how often we visit those who are lonely in a prison cell? Those who lie frightened and alone on death row? What are the best ways we, as a nation, can take care of the sick and the mentally ill? How can provide for the needy? How about we talk about how to help farmers in Africa to make their land more productive, and how we can best ensure basic human rights are protected for everyone, irrespective of class, color, or creed.

I would humbly suggest that, if you insist on having a 'creation science' forum and a 'straight for Jesus' forum, you add one entitled 'social justice'. That way, those of us who are interested in 'loving our neighbor as ourselves' can have a space to discuss the issues that really matter to Jesus.

I have started a new thread on the politics forum on preventing juvenile offending and would be grateful for any contributions.

[Brother Temperance]

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I'm all for debate among Christians, but am I alone in feeling that the emphasis placed on the whole issue of creationism has gotten totally of hand? Every Christian forum on the web seems to be dominated by discussions about creationism and homosexuality. Has it occurred to anyone else that, as Christians, we might have more pressing matters to concern us?

What, more pressing than the question of whether God's Word is the Truth or a bunch of lies?

How about we talk instead how often we visit those who are lonely in a prison cell? Those who lie frightened and alone on death row?

AKA, your pedophile priest buddies?

What are the best ways we, as a nation, can take care of the sick and the mentally ill?

Prayer

How can provide for the needy?

Prayer

How about we talk about how to help farmers in Africa to make their land more productive, and how we can best ensure basic human rights are protected for everyone, irrespective of class, color, or creed.

Where are these basic human rights mentioned in the Bible?

I would humbly suggest that, if you insist on having a 'creation science' forum and a 'straight for Jesus' forum, you add one entitled 'social justice'. That way, those of us who are interested in 'loving our neighbor as ourselves' can have a space to discuss the issues that really matter to Jesus.

I would humbly suggest that you make like your commie granddad Romero and go suck on a bullet.

[Billybob Sunday]

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Dearest unsaved French atheist pervert brother,

I don't know where to start with this latest piece of blasphemy. Once again, you are admonishing True Christians, in the name of Christ (this is blasphemy), to pick and choose the parts of the Bible that God really meant.

Also, you are spreading a heresy that directly contradicts the Bible - that salvation is obtained through works rather than faith. Paul's letter to the Ephesians, 2:8-9, speaks directly to this subject:

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.



For this heresy you will roast in Hell with all of the Calvinists and other false Christians who incorrectly "interpret" the Bible.



Praise God!

I'm all for debate among Christians, but am I alone in feeling that the emphasis placed on the whole issue of creationism has gotten totally of hand? Every Christian forum on the web seems to be dominated by discussions about creationism and homosexuality. Has it occurred to anyone else that, as Christians, we might have more pressing matters to concern us?

How about we talk instead how often we visit those who are lonely in a prison cell? Those who lie frightened and alone on death row? What are the best ways we, as a nation, can take care of the sick and the mentally ill? How can provide for the needy? How about we talk about how to help farmers in Africa to make their land more productive, and how we can best ensure basic human rights are protected for everyone, irrespective of class, color, or creed.

I would humbly suggest that, if you insist on having a 'creation science' forum and a 'straight for Jesus' forum, you add one entitled 'social justice'. That way, those of us who are interested in 'loving our neighbor as ourselves' can have a space to discuss the issues that really matter to Jesus.

I have started a new thread on the politics forum on preventing juvenile offending and would be grateful for any contributions.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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The issue of creationism has to do with whether there is any point to our holy faith at all. If the Genesis creation accounts weren't literally true, there would be no literal Adam, and if there were no literal Adam, there would be no need for Christ:

Romans 5:19: For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. (Note: I recommend that you read the entire chapter, but it's too long to quote here.)

1 Cor. 15:22: For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

[Brother J.H.]

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OP-

These currently are the most important issues to Christians. We are trying to get people saved and teaching people that Gods word is not true is not making it any easier for us. Homosexuality threatens the very threads of our great Christian nation. The Sodomites are going to make the united states the next Sodom and Gemmorah. I would be at all suprised to wake up VERY soon and see that Freehold, IA is all that's left of the United States. You can only spit in God's eyes for so long.
The issue of creation is just as important. The atheist trash are telling our kids that they are animals, that they evolved from monkeys or something. They are telling our kids that Gods word is not accurate. Even worse so, maudlin, kissy poo Christians are trying to kow tow to the atheists by saying things like "one God day is equal to 1 billion earth days". I have heard some Loserans say that.
Lastly, why do we need to help the people in Africa? Are they saved? The best thing we can do for them is deliver them some Bibles and tell them if they don't accept Jesus Christ they will roast in Hell.

[Magikarp]

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These currently are the most important issues to Christians. We are trying to get people saved and teaching people that Gods word is not true is not making it any easier for us. Homosexuality threatens the very threads of our great Christian nation. The Sodomites are going to make the united states the next Sodom and Gemmorah. I would be at all suprised to wake up VERY soon and see that Freehold, IA is all that's left of the United States. You can only spit in God's eyes for so long.
The issue of creation is just as important. The atheist trash are telling our kids that they are animals, that they evolved from monkeys or something. They are telling our kids that Gods word is not accurate. Even worse so, maudlin, kissy poo Christians are trying to kow tow to the atheists by saying things like "one God day is equal to 1 billion earth days". I have heard some Loserans say that.
Lastly, why do we need to help the people in Africa? Are they saved? The best thing we can do for them is deliver them some Bibles and tell them if they don't accept Jesus Christ they will roast in Hell.

So... you hate America?

[Brother J.H.]

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I don't hate America, but if we keep allowing homosexuals to America God is going to destroy this nation so quickly our heads will spin.

[Brother J.H.]

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I don't hate America, but if we keep allowing homosexuals to America God is going to destroy this nation so quickly our heads will spin.

I meant to say that if we keep allowing homosexuals to marry and evolution to be taught in school God is going to destroy this nation. You know what happened with Hurricane Katrina. God was angry at Pennsylvania's decision to not teach creationism alongside evolution.

[Bobby-Joe]

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I meant to say that if we keep allowing homosexuals to marry and evolution to be taught in school God is going to destroy this nation. You know what happened with Hurricane Katrina. God was angry at Pennsylvania's decision to not teach creationism alongside evolution.

Good point friend, it is a pity more Americans don't see the obvious connection.

[Brother J.H.]

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Yeah, I feel, however, that even the Mary Worshipping, Incense Sniffing Papists would be able to pick up on that connection. I know God because I have read the Bible and I can see his work thousands of miles away.

[Brother Lazarus]

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I have started a new thread on the politics forum on preventing juvenile offending and would be grateful for any contributions.

The best way to prevent juvenile crime is to be sure that the love of Jesus is instilled in them at the very earliest age possible. Perhaps the unborn will be able to hear oral Bible readings by mom and dad prior to birth. That way Jesus will be implanted in their minds at the earliest possible moment.

They had better listen. Damnation is the only alternative.

[Brother J.H.]

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The best way to prevent juvenile crime is to be sure that the love of Jesus is instilled in them at the very earliest age possible. Perhaps the unborn will be able to hear oral Bible readings by mom and dad prior to birth. That way Jesus will be implanted in their minds at the earliest possible moment.

They had better listen. Damnation is the only alternative.

When will these people learn that Jesus is the ONLY way?

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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I would humbly suggest that, if you insist on having a 'creation science' forum and a 'straight for Jesus' forum, you add one entitled 'social justice'. That way, those of us who are interested in 'loving our neighbor as ourselves' can have a space to discuss the issues that really matter to Jesus.

I have started a new thread on the politics forum on preventing juvenile offending and would be grateful for any contributions.

There are those words again; "Social Justice". Now that the word "LIEbral" is a bad word in the Lord's lexicon and that of True Americans™, the "former" LIEbrals are now calling themselves "Progressives". Call it what you want, "Social Justice" is nothing more than code words for Godless communism and it is coming to a Main street near you if Obmamma gets elected this November.

[Brother Enoch]

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How about we talk instead how often we visit those who are lonely in a prison cell? Those who lie frightened and alone on death row? What are the best ways we, as a nation, can take care of the sick and the mentally ill? How can provide for the needy? How about we talk about how to help farmers in Africa to make their land more productive, and how we can best ensure basic human rights are protected for everyone, irrespective of class, color, or creed.

All these problems are easily solvable.

How can provide for the needy?

Very simple. For as yet unarrested and incarcerated welfare bums AKA the needy, simply feed them prison inmates. They will not go hungry and eventually will find themselves in prison completing the cycle.

take care of the sick and the mentally ill

Well those are two seperate issues (three actually), aren't they ? The sick, comprise two separate classes - the God fearing sick who will be able to pay for their medical bills since they have adhered to a God-fearing, honest and hard-working life. Now the not God fearing sick scum should be supported by the forced labour of inmates not yet at the head of the cue for 'recycling'. Once the scum sick recover they will no doubt take their place in prison, cancelling out the benefit they drew from prison.

Now the demon-infested (mentally ill) are another matter entirely. They should be walled into vast containment areas such that their evil does not infest True Christians. Overt signs of possesion should be dealt with by releasing the 'mentally ill' meat-wearing demons to God's judgement.

How about we talk about how to help farmers in Africa to make their land more productive

Another easy one. Obviously one of the major problems in Africa with land productivity is a lack of fertilizer. You can't grow crops in sand. Here again God has provided us with prisoners. Not all parts of the prison garbage can be fed to welfare bums, some is simply unusable. Well, not quite. It can be ground into very potent fertilizer that will nourish farmers fields and allow African farmers to support themselves and stop whining to us for handouts all the time because their 8 year old weighs 14 pounds.

how we can best ensure basic human rights are protected for everyone, irrespective of class, color, or creed.

Duh, I don't even have to come up with a solution to that one since it already exists. Total submission to Christ! Did you take the short school bus to school?

How about we talk instead how often we visit those who are lonely in a prison cell? Those who lie frightened and alone on death row?

Uh huh. If my above obvious solutions are followed (and in Christ's name, I have faith they will be) those concerns will vanish.

God Bless,
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